Just purchased a CZ 527 Varmint 223. I know these rifles are very well made. But the chamber seems pretty tight. Is that normal?
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ColbyBruce
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I have owned several CZ rifles, still own all the ones in the photo but #3, which I replaced with the varmint model.
None of my .223's would chamber 5.56 ammo though. What ammo are you trying in your rifle?
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My dad is trying handload for it and we're trying to figure out OAL and neck size. I think we got it though. It will chamber Hornady, Federal 223 and Lake City 556.
ColbyBruce
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The varmint models have a faster twist than the sporters do. If you purchased a used gun, the early varmint models with the H S Precision stock had a shorter LOP than the later ones. If yours is that way, just change out the recoil pad to a thicker one.
J & G Sales in AZ usually has spare mags for less than CZ-USA sells them.
J & G Sales in AZ usually has spare mags for less than CZ-USA sells them.
CZs are great guns for the money..... I'm up to 9 rifles... in .22lr, .22mag, .17HMR and .223
This has been discussed often on the CZ sub-forum of Rimfire Central.......
CZ USA states their 527s in .223s can handle both commercial .223 and mil 5.56 ....
Most 527s are 1in12 but as Colby stated some (early?) Varmints models are 1 in 9 twist.
Some owners have had issues with their 452s in .22lr and CCI Stingers w/ their longer cases... no slop in a CZ.
Colby you need a527 FS/mannlicher in .223 in that line-up.....LOL it's a great walking in the woods gun!!!
This has been discussed often on the CZ sub-forum of Rimfire Central.......
CZ USA states their 527s in .223s can handle both commercial .223 and mil 5.56 ....
Most 527s are 1in12 but as Colby stated some (early?) Varmints models are 1 in 9 twist.
Some owners have had issues with their 452s in .22lr and CCI Stingers w/ their longer cases... no slop in a CZ.
Colby you need a527 FS/mannlicher in .223 in that line-up.....LOL it's a great walking in the woods gun!!!
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ColbyBruce
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Here is the next to last CZ 527 I picked up, traded for it in October 2011. This one is a American model in .222 Remington. I gave it to my brother for his birthday a few months later.
I had a CZ 527 FS in .222 Remington for less than 48 hours two weeks ago. It was cheap because it was battered and would not shoot well. The barrel rubbed the stock all the way down one side, so I took it apart and relieved the barrel channel with sand paper wrapped around a dowel. It did not come with rings or a scope so I shot it with iron sights at 25 yards both times, and the sanding was a great improvement. I let a friend take it to fix the stock and he asked to buy it, so I agreed to sell it to him. Most every CZ FS rifle I have ever seen had issues with the barrel rubbing inside the stock. I like the looks of the FS rifles though.
I had a CZ 527 FS in .222 Remington for less than 48 hours two weeks ago. It was cheap because it was battered and would not shoot well. The barrel rubbed the stock all the way down one side, so I took it apart and relieved the barrel channel with sand paper wrapped around a dowel. It did not come with rings or a scope so I shot it with iron sights at 25 yards both times, and the sanding was a great improvement. I let a friend take it to fix the stock and he asked to buy it, so I agreed to sell it to him. Most every CZ FS rifle I have ever seen had issues with the barrel rubbing inside the stock. I like the looks of the FS rifles though.
birdshooter
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Here is my 527 Varmint in .204 Ruger. I've never had a tight chamber issue. Has the brass you are loading been shot in an AR? I've had some issues in other guns in .223 going from AR to bolt gun. Sometimes the bolt would be difficult to close.
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I think we got it figured out.
CH47gunner
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Mine works best with 69 grain bullets.
I've liked all my CZ rifles - some adjustments were required but, not a "project" gun like some brands.
CZ527 Varmint in .223 w/ Nikon Buckmaster 6-18x40SF
I've liked all my CZ rifles - some adjustments were required but, not a "project" gun like some brands.
CZ527 Varmint in .223 w/ Nikon Buckmaster 6-18x40SF
I own two CZ rifles and one is a CZ American 550 in 22-250 and the other is a CZ 455 that is a combo pack with a 17 HMR barrel and a 22LR barrel. I really like both rifles as they are accurate and are decent looking rifles.
I have a Nikon Coyote 4.5x14x40mm scope on the 550 American in 22-250 and I have a leupold 3x9x40mm scope on the 455.
CZ 550 American 22-250
CZ 455 Combo rifle
I have a Nikon Coyote 4.5x14x40mm scope on the 550 American in 22-250 and I have a leupold 3x9x40mm scope on the 455.
CZ 550 American 22-250
CZ 455 Combo rifle
Colby..... that 527FS must have been an exception....... most who have FSs in 452 455 and 527..... swear that they are their best shooting CZs....mine in .22lr, .22mag and .223 are my favorite... both the .22mag and .223 are moa guns......my .22lr is a .25-.33 at 50yds.
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CZ makes some pretty good guns but they are way overpriced. I wouldn't buy a .223 rifle that can't handle 556 or steel-cased ammo, which is why I own an SKS instead. I passed on the CZ's and Ruger Mini-14. The SKS will take a licking and keep on ticking, plus it's a great SHTF weapon.
W. Moss..... see my first post ......CZ-USA has said that the 527s can handle both commercial .223 and 5.56........the CZs are good rifles for the price....... most models are selling in the low to mid $600 range........I've bought 2 used 527s but anib Americans for $350 (individual) and $450(LGS).
Both will shoot sub MOA at 100.
Can't use a Semi for much in Pa.......LOL
Both will shoot sub MOA at 100.
Can't use a Semi for much in Pa.......LOL
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Art Doc
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I wouldn't compare an SKS to...well, anything, really. Low cost, over built, mass produced military arm for civil defense forces vs. a finely honed precision Mauser bolt gun? Apples and rutabagas (not even oranges).
Commercial Mausers often have tight chambers. Hell, they have tight everything.
Commercial Mausers often have tight chambers. Hell, they have tight everything.
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Not looking for that kind of rifle. And I could think of better weed wackers than an SKS. Besides, the SKS couldn't even think about being as accurate as any CZ rifle.
And far as cost, ever price a heavy barrel bolt action 223 lately?
Solid built models go for more than the CZ.ColbyBruce
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IIRC, I paid the following for each of mine below.
The Brno was used, purchased about fourteen years ago for $450.00 from a LGS.
The CZ 527 Premium was only offered one year, then renamed Prestidge. I bought it new, whatever year that was it came out, $468.00 and got rings and a spare mag in the deal, as the shop owner did not know the rifle did not come with these extra items.
The third rifle I swapped even up for a Newton that had been re-barreled to .30/06; I had $200.00 in that one. I later swapped this and cash for another gun.
The synthetic stock American was imported long before CZ USA existed (in California first) and only offered one year, 1982 or 1983. I gave $300.00 for this one, used, but it was wearing a Leupold scope. A neighbor pointed out my then 10 year old son, who could tear up an anvil, would break that scope in short order. He gave me a Bushnell and $260.00 for the Leupold. $40.00 in this rifle.
The Lux .22 Hornet was purchased used about ten years ago from a man over in Douglasville, GA for $325.00. He fired half a box of cartridges through it and decided he disliked the stock design. It had a Weaver K 2.5 scope on it, and I left it like that. I used the gun on a lease that was heavily wooded, and the scope was adequate for the property.
The 7.62x39mm carbine was purchased new from Bernie's Sports Center in Lilburn, GA for $309.00 the month the store closed, I think in 2003. It was mis-marked, priced like the rimfires. I questioned the price, got snarled at, so I bought it and left.
I went back to Bernie's the next day and bought my CZ 527 HS Precision stock Varmint model .223, new, for somewhere around $500.00; and a used Ruger Police Service Six for $125.00 or so.
I swapped my two .32/20 revolvers and two boxes of ammo for the .222 I gave my brother. I had $180.00 and some change in that one.
I had a new American in .204 Ruger and a used Varmint I bought from a shop that was changing owners for $800.00, the year the .204 came out. Those got traded/sold to a friend.
I, along with several other people, purchased an American in .221 Remington Fireball as a retirement gift for a friend and had it shipped to VA. By that time, the CZ rifles were over $600.00.
I have picked up a few others, passed them on to local kids, when they could be had at reasonable prices. Those days seem to be long gone. I have always wanted wood stock varmint models in .17 & .222 Remington, but those have eluded me.
The Brno was used, purchased about fourteen years ago for $450.00 from a LGS.
The CZ 527 Premium was only offered one year, then renamed Prestidge. I bought it new, whatever year that was it came out, $468.00 and got rings and a spare mag in the deal, as the shop owner did not know the rifle did not come with these extra items.
The third rifle I swapped even up for a Newton that had been re-barreled to .30/06; I had $200.00 in that one. I later swapped this and cash for another gun.
The synthetic stock American was imported long before CZ USA existed (in California first) and only offered one year, 1982 or 1983. I gave $300.00 for this one, used, but it was wearing a Leupold scope. A neighbor pointed out my then 10 year old son, who could tear up an anvil, would break that scope in short order. He gave me a Bushnell and $260.00 for the Leupold. $40.00 in this rifle.
The Lux .22 Hornet was purchased used about ten years ago from a man over in Douglasville, GA for $325.00. He fired half a box of cartridges through it and decided he disliked the stock design. It had a Weaver K 2.5 scope on it, and I left it like that. I used the gun on a lease that was heavily wooded, and the scope was adequate for the property.
The 7.62x39mm carbine was purchased new from Bernie's Sports Center in Lilburn, GA for $309.00 the month the store closed, I think in 2003. It was mis-marked, priced like the rimfires. I questioned the price, got snarled at, so I bought it and left.
I went back to Bernie's the next day and bought my CZ 527 HS Precision stock Varmint model .223, new, for somewhere around $500.00; and a used Ruger Police Service Six for $125.00 or so.
I swapped my two .32/20 revolvers and two boxes of ammo for the .222 I gave my brother. I had $180.00 and some change in that one.
I had a new American in .204 Ruger and a used Varmint I bought from a shop that was changing owners for $800.00, the year the .204 came out. Those got traded/sold to a friend.
I, along with several other people, purchased an American in .221 Remington Fireball as a retirement gift for a friend and had it shipped to VA. By that time, the CZ rifles were over $600.00.
I have picked up a few others, passed them on to local kids, when they could be had at reasonable prices. Those days seem to be long gone. I have always wanted wood stock varmint models in .17 & .222 Remington, but those have eluded me.
Ivan the Butcher
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The only CZ small actioned center fire rifle I owned, was a synthetic stocked 22-Hornet in about 1986 or 87. I believe these were barreled actions that were matched up with Ram line stocks that didn't really fit right. The Factory target was 3 shots at 50 meters and did about 1 1/4 inches. No mater what I did I couldn't get it to shoot that good, so it went by-by. Friends of mine have had several large and dangerous game rifles by CZ and they all shot fantastic. Ivan
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