Decided I dont like Stock trigger

[bobbyd3]

At the range today, had the scope on and was taking aim at 100-150 yard targets and I came to the decision that I dont like the trigger.

Want something that feels tighter, less travel to fire a round. Feels crisper.

Just seems llike to much pull while trying to keep it steady on a distant target.

I was looking around at triggers, was looking at timney drop in ones.

ANy thoughts/opinions would be appreciated.
Not sure what brand to look for and all that.

Not sure if I should get single stage or 2 stage. Gun will be for target shooting only (unless the zombie apocalypse comes this december). But thought I read that 2 stage is better for a defense weapon.

 

[storeyteller]

I am running a RRA national match 2 stage on my sport. I really like it alot. Had thought about the Geissele SSA-E for a new build, until I shot one on a friend's rifle, and really couldn't tell a difference. LOTS of the guys on here use the SSA-E and love it. It is an awesome trigger, I just couldn't justify the price when compared to the RRA. I also have an older AR that I polished the sear, added a spring kit and did another mod to reduce creep which worked fairly good as well, just not as good as the RRA or the Geissele. These are not the only options, just the ones that I have experience with.
Good luck, stay safe and happy hunting.

 

[JaPes]

I always advise trying the least costly method first. Search YouTube for AR15 trigger polish videos. Carefully polish your stock combat trigger and install a $10 set of JP Enterprises reduced power trigger spring kit.

Then if you think the trigger is still horrible, then go and drop the coin on a Timney or Gissele.

 

[aphelion]

Bill Springfield does nice work on the stock trigger for a great price and very fast turn around.

Bill Springfield - www.TriggerWork.net

 

[rebs081]

I put the set screw in and that reduced the travel, I slightly honed the trigger and hammer and put in the yellow springs. This helped but I did have a few light primer hits that resulted in the round not going off.
Another guy was at the range with an AR that he put a RRA 2 stage trigger in and let me shoot it. WOW now that is a trigger, I loved it and I am going to buy one this coming week. I just hope it doesn't spoil me for my other rifles. For $120.00 it would be hard to beat.

 

[gunfighter48]

If you are looking for a single stage trigger, Timney is great and on the pricey side. I have put Timney 4lb triggers in my Sport AR and in my DPMS LR 308. They are great triggers and to me worth every penny I paid for them (about $199 to $209).

 

[Matthew Courtney]

We have found the ALG ACT combines well with JP 3.5# yellow springs to make an awesome trigger. If you have ammo with hard primers, use a JP red hammer spring.

 

[flyer91]

I have SSA-E's in both my M&P lowers, but ...., if I was doing it for the stock upper (and not trying to build a race gun or optimizing a long range tack driver) I would try the less expensive methods that others have outlined in these forums.


Although by lapping the sears you might and 'can' remove the hardened surface (which can make your work a 'slowly' degenerate back to original creep situation, and shorten the overall life of the Fire Control Group) IMHO that's a moot point because the alternative is to just replace the FCG anyway, and if you try to sell it, the stock FCG will only fetch about $20 to $30 ....... at best!!
So the "home method" done properly (safely) is a good way to test the waters .........

There are also these triggers from AGL defense that run $45 to $69 and are reportedly tuned by Giselle. (???)
See: ALG Defense

These have had some lukewarm reviews, but I suspect that part of that might be because some folks expect to get a $250+ competition trigger at those prices, and are disappointed that (although they are much better than the stock "two rocks rubbing together" M&P FCG) they don't have the flowery "breaks like a candy cane, after a micro-short pull, with a blazing fast reset" performance, or ...... they are being compared to the FCG in ARs that go for over $1K, and these more expensive guns typically have better FCGs in the first place.

 

[oneyeopn]

I have a Spikes Tactical Battle Trigger Nickel-Boron coated with an Alpha Romeo spring kit in my sport, in my other AR I have the stock trigger that I stoned and polished and installed the same spring kit. I have had no light primer strikes but have a really nice crisp trigger in both with the ability to take really long shots without the trigger operation screwing me up.

 

[saltair]

I have the Wilson Combat TR-TTU (Tactical Trigger Unit).
Very Crisp 4# pull. They also have it for 3-Gun shooting.
Drop in Trigger Unit takes 5 minutes to install and their Service is Excellent.
You get what you pay for...

 

[turbo2]

But what about his question of single or 2 stage(as I am in the same boat as trying to figure out which one). What circumstances do you choose 1 over the other? What would you suggest for accuracy shooting for between 100-300 yards paper target,single or 2-stage?

 

[flyer91]

Here's some suggestions that might be helpful ........
For a 3G competition race gun a single stage that is tuned like the Giessele S3G, with a short pull and fast positive reset, at about 3.5 lbs.
(on edit ...... I would not recommend this type of trigger for general field use, it is fast but 'IMHO' too nebulous for bashing about in the field)

For long range target I like a two stage like the Giessele SSA-E that has a medium pull, postive wall/crisp break, and medium reset, also at about 3.5 lbs.

For general field use, a single stage like the stock combat trigger, at the same ~5/6 lbs, but tweaked a bit so it's smoother. Like the AGL Defense ACT.

 

[turbo2]

Here's some suggestions that might be helpful ........
For a 3G competition race gun a single stage that is tuned like the Giessele S3G, with a short pull and fast positive reset, at about 3.5 lbs.
(on edit ...... I would not recommend this type of trigger for general field use, it is fast but 'IMHO' too nebulous for bashing about in the field)

For long range target I like a two stage like the Giessele SSA-E that has a medium pull, postive wall/crisp break, and medium reset, also at about 3.5 lbs.

For general field use, a single stage like the stock combat trigger, at the same ~5/6 lbs, but tweaked a bit so it's smoother. Like the AGL Defense ACT.

Thank you, just ordered a SSA-E after lots of reading

 

[oneyeopn]

Just to say, this is where I differ with a lot of people, for long range shooting which is 95% of what I do with all of my rifles, I prefer a single stage with a very smooth take up and a light, clean break. Even when I am hunting I am not thrashing around in the brush, having the disabled hunting permit helps. I also dont worry about overtravel but I think it is because I have been shooting for so long in a part of the world where hunting was always longer range shots and have learned to squeeze the trigger smoothly. On all of my rifles whether they have aftermarket or massaged stock triggers, the take up is smooth and easy and you can feel the point at which it is going to break. I think trigger control is the hardest yet most important aspect of long range shooting. no matter which trigger you use...practice, practice, practice.