Do you believe?

[mrbort]

My info is coming from my college humanities class using this textbook: The Story Of Western Culture by Michael Babcock PH.D The other main reason for not getting too deep is because my answers involve various religious, secular, and political views. This is the wrong forum for that.

You know what, my post was just plain mean, showing frustration and taking it out on you for no reason other than maybe I had a terribly long day yesterday. It was off base and I'm embarrassed by it; it certainly doesnt reflect the person i try to be. I'll be deleting it and I humbly ask for your forgiveness.

 

[feralmerril]

Aint nothing in this world I hate more than political correctness.

 

[gm272gs]

I saw "BCE" in print yesterday for the first time since I read about that one. I understand the reason behind it, but I'll still think of the Parthenon as being built circa 450 BC.

 

[Delos]

You know what, my post was just plain mean, showing frustration and taking it out on you for no reason other than maybe I had a terribly long day yesterday. It was off base and I'm embarrassed by it; it certainly doesnt reflect the person i try to be. I'll be deleting it and I humbly ask for your forgiveness.

You guys were not that far apart - and you act like you are arguing, and then asking forgiveness?
That puppy won't hunt. That don't feed the bulldog.

For most of my life scientists have been telling me that the Big Bang happened when "Nothing Exploded" and became all that we see. Unfortunately in modern science "Nothing" is always nothing.

When the first deep water sailors sailed the oceans they landed on every continent and island and everyone had a religion.

At about nine months every human child will stand up all by him or herself and soon try to walk. Every kid is programmed for language. If left alone too much children will invent their own language "and speak in sentences".

When we finally find intelligent life on other planets they will talk a different language and they will no doubt talk in sentences. They will probably walk on at least two legs and will have at least two hands to carry and manipulate items around them. I am even betting they will only have two legs and arms and will lose body hair after borrowing animal fur. Then they will have passed laws against being unclothed in public unless swimming in cold water.

And hopefully they will only apologize when they have figured out another way to win the argument and are just changing gears on that truck.

I am only trying to be logical.

 

[Delos]

Old News

If humans or anything like humans are alive then, think of looking up in the night sky and seeing it filled with the great spiral galaxy of Anrdromeda. What a sight!

But Andromeda is not at that exact place anymore. You are looking at the old light waves that have been traveling (outward in all directions) toward us for a couple billion years (whatever light years away it is).

It is not where you look and you cannot see it where it is now. Everything is traveling away from the Big Bang.

Einstein looked at Big Ben (clock in England) and visualized the light from the sun bouncing off of Big Ben and traveling to his eyes so he could see the hands on the clock. I have forgotten but I think it takes/took 8 minutes for the sun to cast off the light waves and them hit Big Ben, and a few fractions of a second for the light waves to bounce off and hit Einsteins eyes.

Now when we look at other galaxies they are so far away we see them the way they were not millions but billions of years ago.

Now if our gravity wave observatories can detect a gravity wave from an exploding supernova and compare the time it takes for that gravity wave to get here, compared to the time it takes for light waves from the same event, to get here.... We will have taken the next big step for mankind.

 

[mrbort]

You guys were not that far apart - and you act like you are arguing, and then asking forgiveness?
That puppy won't hunt. That don't feed the bulldog.

It was not about where we were on the issue it's that I felt like I had acted like a bully. Maybe you didn't read it that way and maybe he didn't either. I'm really only accountable to myself and my maker; I felt that my actions required an apology and so I gave it.

I don't really care what satisfies your various dogs.

 

[Delos]

Einstein was wrong

It was not about where we were on the issue it's that I felt like I had acted like a bully. Maybe you didn't read it that way and maybe he didn't either. I'm really only accountable to myself and my maker; I felt that my actions required an apology and so I gave it.

I don't really care what satisfies your various dogs.

Einstein was not always correct. (or was being misquoted) And I believe his attitude on the speed of light being maximum attainable speed is just ignorant (again - or misquoted).
Out in space - for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. You burn the rockets and you get an increase in speed.

On earth we deal with wind resistance, water resistance, and gravity.

In outer space - unless you are near one or more galaxies - there is no friction and no resistance. Unless you try to turn or change directions (centrifugal force).

Einstein treated light as if it was holy. He was in love with light as a constant for a universe in much slower motion. He believed that light always left and arrived at the same speed. Science magazines and newspapers loved him. They would not print anything else.

So I ask you: If when the earth is doing its yearly orbit around the sun, and you pick a distant galaxy to measure the light from. When the earth is moving around the sun toward that galaxy or one half year later moving away from that galaxy is the light speed the same in both cases.

If you say yes then there is something wrong with determining the speed of light as an exact number. Or there is something wrong with the way they are trying to measure it.

For me the truth is that there is no good way "yet" to do such measurements. How would light know how much to slow down to compensate for the reading of the other.

It is what makes math teachers sometimes sound like politicians.

One honest physicist said that Einstein Said "the speed of light is always the same in any frame".

Or if you are shining a flashlight on the earth you are in the earth frame (frame of reference). If you are on the moon shining a light you are on the Moon Frame (frame of reference).

 

[HELLSING]

This is just my personal opinion... if you believe, as big as this... WORLD is, that we are truly ALONE... I'm sorry for you.

On the other hand. I do believe in spirits, ghosts, etc. I've had a few personal experiences at my fathers home that had me running back inside. I'll just say this... his home is on a hill (he's alone up there too) where the local KKK use to burn crosses in this massive fire pit that still exists about 60-70 yards from his house (YEARS ago)

 

[papajohn428]

With all the cell phone cameras and video cameras around, why don't we see pictures of alien spacecraft more now than we did back in the 70's and 80's?

Because they KNOW we have them, and they're keeping a lower profile than they used to. They understand our limited technology, and if you remember all the sightings that were reported 30-40 years ago, they either appeared where only pilots and a few others could see them, or they hung out in rural areas, close to Bubba and his still, so no one would believe anything they said.

Do a little research on the Piedmont Missouri sightings back in the 70's and 80's.........they were an everyday event.

UFOs Found in Real TV Broadcasts

 

[rcnixon]

I've been looing up in the sky for most of my sixty-two plus years and I've never seen anything there I couldn't explain. On the other hand, If I do meet aliens, I am prepared; I'm going to drop to the ground and do the Pythagorean Theorem and the unit circle in binary. After that, I have three questions: can I have a ride? Does this thing GO? And, do you think I can drive for a while?

Russ

 

[PA Reb]

Not to "beat a dead horse" but I happened across the movie "Contact" which was airing on television last night. Has anyone seen it before? It stars Jodie Foster as a scientist that attempts to find evidence of extraterrestrial life by listening for radio transmissions from space. After sveveral years, she begins to receive transmissions coming from the area of the star Vega (26 light years from earth) in the form of a repeating sequence of prime numbers. They go on to discover that this message is actually in 3D and contains over 60,000 pages. The film goes on from there and I won't spoil it for anyone that hasn't seen it and may want to. Pretty neat stuff to those interested in worm holes, time travel, and the great distances out there.

 

[Delos]

Wrong secret, wrong math

Not to "beat a dead horse" but I happened across the movie "Contact" which was airing on television last night. Has anyone seen it before? It stars Jodie Foster as a scientist that attempts to find evidence of extraterrestrial life by listening for radio transmissions from space. After sveveral years, she begins to receive transmissions coming from the area of the star Vega (26 light years from earth) in the form of a repeating sequence of prime numbers. They go on to discover that this message is actually in 3D and contains over 60,000 pages. The film goes on from there and I won't spoil it for anyone that hasn't seen it and may want to. Pretty neat stuff to those interested in worm holes, time travel, and the great distances out there.

I really doubt if any UFO's would be flying around with their landing lights on. Or any lights on.

By now all UFO's would have copied our military's ability to camouflage themselves by reflection or absorbing light or radar.

I recall back in the 1960's when most UFO sketches or pictures looked like what we later saw as Delta Wing airplanes and the super secret SR71 Blackbird. Or a photo of a hubcap being thrown as a frisbee.

The only thing that really irritated me (much later) was that it "sounded like" the scientists at the "Skunkworks" making the Blackbird were not permitted to share new technology with the Space Program scientists.

Why did the military have a Titanium airplane that got stronger every time you took it up and heated up the outside - yet John Glen's rocket was built on low bid government contract.

And besides, one female alien I met in a bar once told me that all aliens had seven toes on each foot so naturally they use base 14 math. Jodie Foster didn't have a clue.

 

[Delos]

In the still of the night

With all the cell phone cameras and video cameras around, why don't we see pictures of alien spacecraft more now than we did back in the 70's and 80's?

Because they KNOW we have them, and they're keeping a lower profile than they used to. They understand our limited technology, and if you remember all the sightings that were reported 30-40 years ago, they either appeared where only pilots and a few others could see them, or they hung out in rural areas, close to Bubba and his still, so no one would believe anything they said.

Do a little research on the Piedmont Missouri sightings back in the 70's and 80's.........they were an everyday event.

UFOs Found in Real TV Broadcasts

Back in the Iron Curtain and Cold War days it was sometimes exciting to camp out by hydro electric dams. A major target for night time practice runs for our fighter bombers.

Basically the military is smarter than our police and prison administrators. They know that the game is still on when the sun goes down. They still have classes when the sun goes down.

 

[Delos]

Light bulbs are good

This is just my personal opinion... if you believe, as big as this... WORLD is, that we are truly ALONE... I'm sorry for you.

On the other hand. I do believe in spirits, ghosts, etc. I've had a few personal experiences at my fathers home that had me running back inside. I'll just say this... his home is on a hill (he's alone up there too) where the local KKK use to burn crosses in this massive fire pit that still exists about 60-70 yards from his house (YEARS ago)

The invention of the light bulb was a big deal. No reason for lighting fires and lamps and such.

 

[rewster]

In ALIENS? I took the family to see "Dark Skies" and it got me to thinking, what do I believe and what do others believe?

NO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Delos]

Stranger than fiction

I have seen wierd stuff in the night sky, lights way up high making sudden turns, lights stopping then moving again, my wife saw one make several zigzag moves, stuff like that. I have no idea what they were, other than wierd.

My best guess is that the military leaves the lights on so they can see and photograph moves, and compare it to how it looks on radar.

Now if anyone ever saw our jets scrambling and chasing them off......

But on the other hand I saw a program on lightening strikes that included showing upward lightening strikes from the clouds. Airline pilots had been whispering about them for years but no one went public. Whenever an airline pilot reports anything strange he gets investigated, drug tests and such. Not worth losing your job over. No one wants something strange in their personnel file. Certainly not police either.
You can only trust taxi drivers.

 

[Foodfuzz]

Why yes, yes they are here. Some in positions you would never expect them to occupy. You can't say anything because you will be muffled if you attempt anything. They look just like you do. Honestly, why would I lie?

 

[moosedog]

Mark me down as having an open mind on the subject of aliens and the paranormal.