Dumpers?

[JayFramer]

Anyone use the old dumper pouches?

I read police for many years, some clear up through the 80s, used these pouches that dump a load of cartridges in your palm so you can reload your cylinder one round at a time.

Quite frankly, that sounds like a fumbly nightmare to me. I could not imagine running dry in a gunfight and having to use one of these pouches. Even more shocking is some large departments like NYPD used these as recently as 30 years ago when revolvers fell out of favor in LEO circles.

What are yalls thoughts on these dump pouches? Anyone ever used one on duty, or God forbid, have to reload under stress with in? Just curious.

Thanks!

-Jay

 

[xray97]

I was issued dump pouches when I was hired in 1977. Did not carry them a single day- immediately purchased my own speed loaders. I can only remember seeing one or two guys carrying dump pouches on duty.

 

[GerSan69]

Oh yeah. I used those before. Had some that would fit a speed strip in there. I don't remember if we had to get the .44 size to do that, though.
I switched early on to Safariland speedloaders in some other company's pouch. I don't remember the name of the holder, but it was made of plastic with a leather flap that covered the front and velcroed shut on top. When you opened it, you could grab the entire loader and pull it out. I still have it here someplace. I think I have some drop pouches, too.
EDIT: It's a Dade speedloader holder. I just looked for it but it's probably under something else.

 

[CH4]

I used them in the mid 80s. Speed loaders were faster, but dump pouches were more streamline. It was all about looking good.

 

[Maddog 521]

I have a couple of the ones with the double snap that wraps around the belt. I cut them in half and use one with a Bianchi speed strip in it. Works good.

 

[Old_Cop]

Service wear in 1975, I added speed strips in mine as soon as I could. It was later that I went to HKS loaders and a double pouch.

 

[stansdds]

If you can fit loaded speed strips into them, they are ok, but still not as fast as a speed loader. With loose rounds, you might be picking them up off of the ground and it's a slow reload.

 

[elpac3]

Standard uniform back in the early 70's. I used the safariland Velcro belt system and carried the dumps front center on the belt so I could with either hand. Carried .38+p on the bianchi speed strips before I switched over the supercells 137 grainers.

Used the dumps for qualifications as well as ppc duty matches. You needed to be careful with reloads but with practice they went ok. Later in the 70's made the switch to the safariland cylinder loaders but never liked them as well as the flat dump boxes. Always carried the dumps as my back-ups after the switch.

 

[snowman.45]

I started in 1977 and was also issued the dump pouches. I think I used them throughout the academy, if I remember correctly. I got speed loaders at the first opportunity after hitting the streets. I don't recall if they were Safariland or HKS. I did and still do use speed strips from time to time.

 

[Muss Muggins]

When used them, back in the day, we put the rounds on Bianchi Speed Strips and just yanked the tab out . . .

Anyone use the old dumper pouches?

I read police for many years, some clear up through the 80s, used these pouches that dump a load of cartridges in your palm so you can reload your cylinder one round at a time.

Quite frankly, that sounds like a fumbly nightmare to me. I could not imagine running dry in a gunfight and having to use one of these pouches. Even more shocking is some large departments like NYPD used these as recently as 30 years ago when revolvers fell out of favor in LEO circles.

What are yalls thoughts on these dump pouches? Anyone ever used one on duty, or God forbid, have to reload under stress with in? Just curious.

Thanks!

-Jay

 

[CelticSire]

Yep, required carry when I started as a LEO. "Speed loaders are mechanical. They will fail and get you killed." "Chief, the revolver is also mechanical, so..." "Yes, and I'm still the Chief. No speed loaders." Carried them for three years until that Chief retired. The new Chief said carry speed loaders if you want, but you have to buy them and the holder has to match your duty leather. Had to reload with the dump pouches a couple of times in a high stress situation. Definitely takes concentration and coordination.

 

[turnerriver]

Collector, not a user which I guess is akin to a lover not a fighter.
Not fumbling and dropping would require a lot of practice I think.
Regards,
turnerriver

 

[keith44spl]

I used the hinged type.....





Still do, sometimes.




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[Mike in Reedley]

I used the hinged type.....





Still do, sometimes.




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Handsome West Texas rig there on the bottom. I started my career in 79 with Safety Speed dump pouches.

 

[Igiveup]

Gosh, I had never seen or heard of these speed loaders holders. I was never in law enforcement, either. I do have the HKS type loaders for either six or five rounds, and have a brown basket weave double holder, an HKS 103 Med, for them that I carry in the ash tray of my pickup. I'll have to look for these dump holders at the gun shows.

 

[flagman1776]

When I started I bought Safariland comp type speedloaders. I think I was the first to carry speed loaders... as a rookie part-timer. Yes, they rode me hard. I qualified with them under the scrutine of the armorer and soon others followed. I carried 38+P in speed strips in a shirt pocket.

I escaped from the "lock the rookie in his own handcuffs" prank... the only one who had done so... You know the one, where the FTO wants to demonstrate cuffing technique & leaves the rookie locked in. I had the extra hidden keys in the belt keepers.

 

[CH4]

If you can fit loaded speed strips into them, they are ok, but still not as fast as a speed loader. With loose rounds, you might be picking them up off of the ground and it's a slow reload.

I could never find dump pouches that would properly fit magnums and speed strips combined, it was a very tight fit. Eventually, I put function before form and went with HKS speed loaders.

 

[keith44spl]

When I started I bought Safariland comp type. I think I was the first to carry speed loaders as a rookie part-timer. Yes, they rode me hard. I qualified with them under the scrutinee of the armorer and soon others followed. I carried 38+P in speed strips in a shirt pocket.

I escaped from the "lock the rookie in his own handcuffs" prank... the only one who had done so... You know the one, where the FTO wants to demonstrate cuffing technique & leaves the rookie locked in. I had the hidden keys in the belt keepers.

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For years I kept a cuff key on a string taped to the (small of back) inside of my gunbelt.

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[Broke Hoss]

There were still a few of the dump pouches around and even a couple of the open loops being carried when I started. But we were issued HKS speedloaders. I did carry a couple of speedstrips in my pants pocket for some extra rounds if needed

Off duty I had a dump pouch with a speed strip in it carried my mdl 60.


We laugh that we used to feel comfortable with 18 rounds total & now most guns carry almost that in 1 magazine.

 

[K Frame Keith]

I was issued one in the early 80's. I purchased HKS speed loaders and used the drop boxes with speed strips. I'm southpaw so the loaders went in front of my K frame and the drop boxes were carried behind the gun. 30 rounds on my belt! Thereafter, we transitioned to the P7M8 and carried four spare magazines for a total of 41 rounds.