Ethical Question

Doesn't really matter and I'm not going to make it about them, people have strong opinions and I'm not changing any of them online....
If it doesn't really matter, then why would anyone go to such great lengths to act like a bigot while hoping to not be identified as one?
 
I have a bayonet collection and had several in my car that I had just purchased. A friend, who claims to be a psychic, saw them and wanted to look. She became very upset with one of them and she said to get it out of her sight. Her words were evil and death.

THAT blade had obvious signs of blood pitting.
"Psychic? No, psycho.
 
I always thought it'd be interesting to own a few guns with blood on them. (Figuratively not literally)

Display pieces, stories to tell.
 
Seems that some are a bit superstitious and believe in mojo and all that. As I said above, I guess I have a fairly thick skin for this sort of stuff. Sure, there are milsurps I've acquired that by the markings they bear may well have a murky past. What does that have to do with me in 2025? It's all history now. Sure, I take note of history, more so than most according to my wife, but I see no future in getting all squirmy in my undies about it.

I'm no fan of mojo, but I do like the plain weird, like an obvious Russian capture with all the dirty birds intact. I guess Olga the dirty bird peener has stepped out for a smoke or potty break when that one came down the line. All I could do was shrug in puzzlement on receipt. I've never felt a universe shaking feeling of guilt from Olga at her failure to do her job, and I doubt I ever will.
 
"Psychic? No, psycho.
Other names for psycho are nutcase, deranged, kookoo, crazy person, et al.

Regardless, they have mental problems that largely are directed at there here and now, or they see things that have no logical reason.

OTOH, psychics SEE things that others do not. Also, under normal day- to-day circumstances if they show no psycho tendencies, I would have to say they are truly different. If an examination of an object shows some meaning, then there must be more to it.

None of us really know anything about the afterlife, or even what's going on.
 
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Other names for psycho are nutcase, deranged, kookoo, crazy person, et al.

Regardless, they have mental problems that largely are directed at there here and now, or they see things that have no logical reason.

OTOH, psychics SEE things that others do not. Also, under normal day- to-day circumstances if they show no psycho tendencies, I would have to say they are truly different. If an examination of an object shows some meaning, then there must be more to it.

None of us really know anything about the afterlife, or even what's going on.
I'm not going to argue about it with you, but I do not agree with what you have posted. Forum rules, and all.
 
I had a Mauser with swastika stamps. It had problems and I gave it away to someone that could use the parts. Was it involved in any atrocities? Who knows? It was merely an inanimate object.

The Early 20th Century Japanese likely murdered more civilians than the Nazis. The Red Chinese and Russian Communists definitely did.

Scholar R.J. Rummel estimates that the Japanese military regime was responsible for the deaths of nearly three million to over ten million people, primarily civilians in China, Indonesia, Korea, the Philippines, and Indochina.
British historian Mark Felton claims that up to 30 million people were killed by the Japanese, with the vast majority being civilians.
 
I'm not going to argue about it with you, but I do not agree with what you have posted. Forum rules, and all.
I posted to express my views based on 60 years of adult life experience. I did so respectfully. I had no intention to argue with anyone. If your opinion is different than mine, so be it. Not my concern. If further discussion would violate forum rules, then I think that would not be my problem either.
 
Well back on topic here, years ago I saw a report on TV from NYC I think that there were some people that opened up a "gunshop" and were "selling firearms". It was just a ploy to get people to come in and make them think about firearms. They only had a few that were hanging from the wall with little tags on them. The tags said nothing about the make or caliber or anything to actually do with the gun.
All they said was that "this gun was used to kill a family of four" or this gun killed (3) school children and so on. They weren't real and obviously weren't used to kill anyone. They were all fakes. They would ask people coming in if they would be comfortable purchasing a firearm that was used to kill someone. THIS is the same thing that Rocketmedic40 is asking, in my opinion. Now would I be comfortable buying a gun that was used to kill someone? If it was a model (6.5" S&W M-24 in Nickel) I was looking for ABSOLUTLEY!!! The gun didn't kill anyone, it was the bullet!
Would I want to buy a bullet that killed someone? Like the one that did in John Lennon or was removed from President Reagan HELL NO!!! That's weird and disgusting. Would I buy a knife that gutted someone, nope. The same with any object that actually did damage to a human body. Be it an ax, baseball bat, a stuffed animal etc. Don't want it around me

ps. My memory of the afore mentioned tv report is pretty hazy after all these years. I just remember the gist of the story not all the particulars so don't quote me. If anyone has more info on this subject please post it here.

Rick
 
Sort of inspired by, but not limited to, the ongoing events in the Middle East:

Would you deliberately seek to own a gun or tool surplused from an organization that (likely) committed human-rights abuses?

For example, there's a lot of third-generation S&W semiautomatics coming back in and floating around places like Robinson Trading Post in decent shape. As a firearm, there's nothing wrong with them, and most have been carried a lot and shot a little. But in the back of my head, I don't know if I'm super-comfortable carrying something that was used as a facilitator for what I personally don't agree with. For the same reasons, I haven't picked up any German Russian-capture milsurps…as much as I love them (and I do), I don't want them enough to buy them.

I don't believe in ghosts or bloody nightmares, but I also don't want Bull Connor's nightstick or the Trapdoor from Wounded Knee in my karma…

What are your thoughts?
As for the German-Russian WW II weapon history goes, most Germans were not Nazis, and most Russians were not Communists.
On the Eastern Front, it was Nazis killing Communists and Communists killing Nazis.
Who would you have rooted for on that one?
 
If it were available to me, it's already been paid for and out of the hands of 'bad' people by at least one middleman. So it's 'just' a gun. I don't go out of my way to buy from terrorists, but all I know about a lot of my guns is that they had at least one previous owner and PROBABLY not associated with a crime. I don't buy Nazi helmets or Totenkopf pins but I would love to have a Nazi era Luger, P-38 , a Gerwehr or Mauser rifle.
I have a WW I issued German steel helmet that could have been used in either of the world wars. I bought it from a classmate when I was in the 11'th grade in 1972 for $9.
Headband leather suspension system is gone, and has a pair of bullet holes from a through and through shot that have been roughly filled with body putty. Outside has been spray painted black. Classmate had no background info on it.
It has no collector value; I just bought it because I thought it was kinda cool. Don't know when it was shot. During wartime or after it was brought back as a souvenir?
I have never felt an instant's guilt about having it. It has sat quietly on top of my second gun safe up in my shop for years.
 
My father brought back just 2 souvenirs from his time in the ETO in WWII, well other than the shrapnel he took with him to his final rest at Arlington. He had a German Nazi belt buckle and a Nazi helmet. The last I saw the belt buckle it was in a small junk box in the garage, rusty and of no interest to anyone. The last I saw the helmet it had three hoes in it with wire to hang it from a branch of the orchid tree with some plant growing in it. It was already rusted through in several places. I have two souvenirs my FIL brought back. One is a very decorative dagger that I think belonged to some minor German ace. The other is a P-35 Hi-Power with the tangent sights but not cut for a stock. It has all of the Nazi markings. I also have his bring back paper for it that also included a Luger. The P-35 did have the original holster but I've been unable to find it. I assume he sold off the luger somewhere along the way. I'll pass the dagger and P-35 along to my son. I have no problem owning my FIL's trophies and wish my fathers trophies hadn't turned to dust. I certainly have no love or respect for the Nazis. I'll go so far as to say we should have hung a lot more of them after the war. Japanese too.
 
My father brought back just 2 souvenirs from his time in the ETO in WWII, well other than the shrapnel he took with him to his final rest at Arlington. He had a German Nazi belt buckle and a Nazi helmet. The last I saw the belt buckle it was in a small junk box in the garage, rusty and of no interest to anyone. The last I saw the helmet it had three hoes in it with wire to hang it from a branch of the orchid tree with some plant growing in it. It was already rusted through in several places. I have two souvenirs my FIL brought back. One is a very decorative dagger that I think belonged to some minor German ace. The other is a P-35 Hi-Power with the tangent sights but not cut for a stock. It has all of the Nazi markings. I also have his bring back paper for it that also included a Luger. The P-35 did have the original holster but I've been unable to find it. I assume he sold off the luger somewhere along the way. I'll pass the dagger and P-35 along to my son. I have no problem owning my FIL's trophies and wish my fathers trophies hadn't turned to dust. I certainly have no love or respect for the Nazis. I'll go so far as to say we should have hung a lot more of them after the war. Japanese too.
Especially the Japanese.
 
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