So what's the group with the hateful 3rd gen smiths?
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Everything made in communist China comes from a country swimming in "human rights abuse." Hope you never buy/own anything from there.
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well that’s judgemental as all heck. Theres plenty of stuff I don’t particularly want to own- unfortunately a lot of police surplus falls in that category. Just like how I’m not particularly interested in LAPD-marked batons from the 90s or Mayor Daly’s vintage 1960s riot gear, I’m also somewhat averse to firearms used by police as a “badge of office”/sidearm when they’re enforcing something that I personally don’t agree with.
As discussed, most milsurps are different(ish), with the caveat being that obvious Nazi iconography or known connections to heinous events and crimes is still not mojo I want to support by owning, even if those artifacts and dollars have nothing to do with the original users.
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Since there has been no clarification provided I’ll go out on a very short limb and suggest Israel/IDF based on other posts by the OP.
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I personally support your statement 1000%. Unfortunately, it's almost impossible to live up to that ideal.
Examples:
If I'm in a store and want top buy an item, I will search for one NOT made in China. But sometimes, it's a part I need, so I have no choice.
Recently, I saw an ad for some shoes that were just what I was looking for. But before sending in the order, I researched their web site. "100% Made in USA" proudly displayed. Only hours after placing the order I got a tracking number. Shipped from dingdongfoo province. Now I'm SPITTING NAILS". The shoes came in a plastic bag, and are only "fair", but they have no ID at all as to manufacture or even the size number.
No matter how hard I try, I seem to get screwed every time.
FWIW I think this is a perfectly reasonable question, and I don’t think the OP is attempting to conceal a political agenda.
For the people who are curious about the details, I *assume* the country in question is South Africa. I also collect Swiss Army Knives, and there is a model of the Victorinox Soldier that was used by the SADF whose rarity attracts some collectors, while its history gives others pause.
I think there may be a bit of projection going on. I haven’t seen anyone casting aspersions on others’ collecting habits. If the question asks annoys you, perhaps moving on might be the proper response.
Finally, the fact we all don’t like the same sorts of things is a positive, not a negative.
For the people who are curious about the details, I *assume* the country in question is South Africa. I also collect Swiss Army Knives, and there is a model of the Victorinox Soldier that was used by the SADF whose rarity attracts some collectors, while its history gives others pause.
I think there may be a bit of projection going on. I haven’t seen anyone casting aspersions on others’ collecting habits. If the question asks annoys you, perhaps moving on might be the proper response.
Finally, the fact we all don’t like the same sorts of things is a positive, not a negative.
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Judgmental maybe but I feel strongly my judgement was correct!Rocketmedic40 said:
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Sorry but have had several 1911s and 1911A-1s that had “ the feeling”. As we all say we wish firearms could talk as a few ones I got a story from the Veteran who used them.
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I have a bayonet collection and had several in my car that I had just purchased. A friend, who claims to be a psychic, saw them and wanted to look. She became very upset with one of them and she said to get it out of her sight. Her words were evil and death.
THAT blade had obvious signs of blood pitting.
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I'm guilty of using the term "soul" as well when referring to a particular type or model of a gun. You're right, a gun has no soul. However, I think what we all mean is that a gun has perpetual fervor and desirability. Many don't and won't ever, but I'll avoid getting into the ones that fall in that category.
If it doesn't really matter, then why would anyone go to such great lengths to act like a bigot while hoping to not be identified as one?
You just judged someone as being judgemental.
"Psychic? No, psycho.
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Seems that some are a bit superstitious and believe in mojo and all that. As I said above, I guess I have a fairly thick skin for this sort of stuff. Sure, there are milsurps I've acquired that by the markings they bear may well have a murky past. What does that have to do with me in 2025? It's all history now. Sure, I take note of history, more so than most according to my wife, but I see no future in getting all squirmy in my undies about it.
I'm no fan of mojo, but I do like the plain weird, like an obvious Russian capture with all the dirty birds intact. I guess Olga the dirty bird peener has stepped out for a smoke or potty break when that one came down the line. All I could do was shrug in puzzlement on receipt. I've never felt a universe shaking feeling of guilt from Olga at her failure to do her job, and I doubt I ever will.
I'm no fan of mojo, but I do like the plain weird, like an obvious Russian capture with all the dirty birds intact. I guess Olga the dirty bird peener has stepped out for a smoke or potty break when that one came down the line. All I could do was shrug in puzzlement on receipt. I've never felt a universe shaking feeling of guilt from Olga at her failure to do her job, and I doubt I ever will.
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Other names for psycho are nutcase, deranged, kookoo, crazy person, et al.
Regardless, they have mental problems that largely are directed at there here and now, or they see things that have no logical reason.
OTOH, psychics SEE things that others do not. Also, under normal day- to-day circumstances if they show no psycho tendencies, I would have to say they are truly different. If an examination of an object shows some meaning, then there must be more to it.
None of us really know anything about the afterlife, or even what's going on.
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Several years ago a friend has a Gerber MkII that had a blood pitted blade. Said he got it from a Vietnam Veteran so don’t know the truth. Knife had “ the feel”.
I'm not going to argue about it with you, but I do not agree with what you have posted. Forum rules, and all.
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I had a Mauser with swastika stamps. It had problems and I gave it away to someone that could use the parts. Was it involved in any atrocities? Who knows? It was merely an inanimate object.
The Early 20th Century Japanese likely murdered more civilians than the Nazis. The Red Chinese and Russian Communists definitely did.
Scholar R.J. Rummel estimates that the Japanese military regime was responsible for the deaths of nearly three million to over ten million people, primarily civilians in China, Indonesia, Korea, the Philippines, and Indochina.
British historian Mark Felton claims that up to 30 million people were killed by the Japanese, with the vast majority being civilians.
The Early 20th Century Japanese likely murdered more civilians than the Nazis. The Red Chinese and Russian Communists definitely did.
Scholar R.J. Rummel estimates that the Japanese military regime was responsible for the deaths of nearly three million to over ten million people, primarily civilians in China, Indonesia, Korea, the Philippines, and Indochina.
British historian Mark Felton claims that up to 30 million people were killed by the Japanese, with the vast majority being civilians.
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