Fab Defense Mag Well Grip

[w0ady]

im not into the hobby enough to follow what costa does. last time i saw him he was testing out a nighthawk 1911 and gave me compliments on my sig 1911 .22.

honestly for a 15-22, your grip should depend on whatever you enjoy doing. the handful of times ive shot ar's, ive used something like the "c-clamp" grip to control the recoil. sure i should be "training" the same on my 15-22 but the truth is i dont have an ar and this is fun for me. hence i use my rvg.

 

[WVleo]

OMG Did He say CLIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIP !! I actually am happy using the forearm of the rifle as the weak hand grip area, but to each His own. But really Did He Say CLIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIP ? WVleo

 

[Kayback]

honestly for a 15-22, your grip should depend on whatever you enjoy doing. the handful of times ive shot ar's, ive used something like the "c-clamp" grip to control the recoil. sure i should be "training" the same on my 15-22 but the truth is i dont have an ar and this is fun for me. hence i use my rvg.

True. My 15/22 is the only AR I own. My other guns are AK or Galil platform to the TTP's don't carry over well.

I was just saying that there is no need for the FAB Defense mag well grip add on - it can lead to malfunctions, or for the mag well grip in general.

Putting one on a 15/22 s bad juju.

KBK

 

[w0ady]

i returned at least $100 worth of mods for my 15-22 that i bought to try out to figure out what i liked best. some things work, some things dont - i just wanted to learn what fit me.

 

[Majorlk]

I'm a fan of just a plain vertical grip wherever is comfiest for me. It's a 15-22. It's for killing small animals and punching holes in paper. Not CQC.
If you want to grip it by the magwell just use the magwell. I have also seen people mount an AFG so it buts almost against the magwell and does the same sort of thing and acts as a hand stop when your support hand is further out on the handguard.


Tapatalk ate my spelling and grammar.

This is how my AFG-2 is installed.

 

[Gatillo]

Anyone put one of these on their 15-22?

Foregrips FAB Defense (Defence) Weapon Accessories

Wondering if any whittling will need done...?

Thanks for your valuable time.

I like my CAA magwell grip. No whittling required and it has the added option of a sealed battery compartment.

 

[Kayback]

That is a better design and it does away with most of the drawbacks of the other mag well grips ( causing stoppages, being able to use a light, no fitting).

But it is still a mag well grip

KBK

 

[Gatillo]

But it is still a mag well grip

You're darned tootin'...and it keeps me from getting my hand shot off by the paper and steel bad guys as I pie the corners on a CQC scenario IDPA stage

Of course, I use a more hand forward grip on an AFG for the long shot

 

[Kayback]

If you insist. I still don't see how moving your hand along a straight line increases or deceases being in cover or not. 50% of body and 100% of legs/feet for vertical cover doesn't talk about hands.

Maybe offside cover, as you can crank your elbow in, maybe. But you can crack your elbow in just as much using a more forwards grip as well.

(Maybe your IDPA steel/paper is just more aggressive than ours!!!)

I just switch shoulders.

KBK

 

[Gatillo]

Yeah, I'm practicing that whole switch thing...gotta a long way to go on that shizzle!

 

[Kayback]

Don't do what I did. I started doing it with my Glock. I shoot better with my left hand as my "strong" hand, probably because it forces me to slow down and concentrate on the basics.

Doing another COF with another left hand barricade I was trying to be fancy with my 1911. My 1911 that doesn't have an ambi safety. Came round the barricade, swept my thumb over the nice smooth side of the gun and did absolutely nothing besides look like a muggins

I now make sure the gun is off safe before trying it Or just stick to doing it with my Glock.

Doing the safety on the AR isn't an issue with your left hand though.

KBK

 

[sahlomonic]

I've also seen people put each round into the barrel between shots. Pouring the powder in, inserting the wad, ramming the ball down on it, priming the fizzen...... doesn't mean it is a good idea to still be doing it.

It was once all the range to hold your gun like that, but there are serious maneuverability and stability issues with it. Moving your support hand out further increases the stability. This is taken to the extreme with the Costa style C clamp grip.

KBK

I've thought the same, but for me its fairly comfortable.

It may not be that bad of a hold if this guy typically holds his rifles this way (former Air Force PJ and Army Ranger Wil Willis)

Don't mean to argue, just bringing some evidence to the table.

 

[Majorlk]

Just because some soldier does it, doesn't make it a good thing to do.

 

[sahlomonic]

Special Ops soldiers are not just "some soldier", but I get your point.

 

[Majorlk]

Special Ops soldiers are not just "some soldier", but I get your point.

No offense to the gentleman's service was intended, BTW. My son's an active duty Navy spook.

 

[sahlomonic]

No offense to the gentleman's service was intended, BTW. My son's an active duty Navy spook.

I assumed correctly, then. I knew what you were getting at

 

[sahlomonic]

To be back on topic here, from a physics standpoint it doesn't make sense to hold a rifle with a close grip and expect good accuracy. The further the grip distance, the more accurate it could be.

But man is it comfy lol


What gets me is seeing guys demo the Magpul AFG. They basically have their support hand straight out, and thumb rests on top of the rail, as if you were outstretching your hand with a sword in a stabbing motion. It looks a little "different", but some will argue it gives you an immense amount of control with the ability to maneuver your weapon better.

 

[Majorlk]

According to the CQB games people, the hold in the photos gives the most control. But, to me, it's NOT comfortable.

 

[w0ady]

the afg hold like that hurts my elbow/forearm. i like a more relaxed old school rifle grip for long range accuracy. but like others have mentioned, my close-in rvg grip is just more comfortable.

 

[rraisley]

I know it's a very different animal, but in Olympic rifle shooting, the only hold used (and the most accurate, for them) is very close to the body:

The main reason is they are supporting their left arm with their chest or hip for a more stable hold. (The women are actually better at it than the men - better hips, you know.)

So personally, I would not try to say that the only, or best, hold is just with the arm fully extended. I find I'm more stable myself when holding close to the body, if shooting unsupported.