FBI 1076

According to the "FBI Instructional Tips and Techniques for Firing" manual for the 1076, page 3, it states "Prep the double action trigger by taking up the slack, but only to the point resistance is felt."
 
Nitrous SSC,
I have TEU0311. Your pistol should have 3-white dot Novak sights, standard straight back grip, straight grooves in the grip frame and the law enforcement caution statement on the slide. It should have been delivered to the FBI Academy in early to mid 1990. If you have not requested a history letter from Roy Jinks I urge you to do so. Best to you.
D
 
I have already sent my letter off to S&W for confirmation of the origins of the 1076 i bought last week for $576. I should receive the gun here in the next couple of days. I just bought some ammo for it but i thought I read that 220 grain ammo was a little much for this gun. Any opinions here on ammo? And how long was the wait to get your letters back from Mr. Jinks?

Also, it seems that there are a few of us from the Salt Lake area chiming in on this thread. Where do you guys go to shoot?
 
Depending on the load Roy has it can take 3 months or more. The shortest I have seen is 5-6 weeks. I load the 175 grn silver tip as my carryround pushing it to approx 1200fps.
 
SO the bullets I bought that have the 220 grain, are they too much? Am I asking for potential problems?
 
No a 220 grn bullet will probably work fine. I have found that i like a bullet weight in the 155 to 175 area. I have loads with the 135 grn Nosler JHP that travel in the high 1500 to almost 1600 fps. I also have silvertips in the 155 jhp. I like the higher bullet weight moving in the 1200fps area. This combo in my opinion is a very effective round.
 
I picked up my 1076 today. If I could figure out how to post pics then I would post some. This gun is SAweet. A little bigger than I appreciated from the pictures posted here. This thing is beefy. So the gun has the two dots punched on to the frame hidden under the decocker lever. So is this the final confirmation, other than Mr. Jinks, that this is an FBI gun? It has everything else as well, checkered forward face of the grip, "caution capable.....", and has TFS35XX serial number. If someone can tell me how to psot some pics then I will do so shortly.
 
The dots under the decocker only note that the repair mod has been done to the gun. Only a letter will positively confirm the status of the pistol.
 
I have been carrying Doubletap 165gr GoldDot ammo. It seems to be a little more accurate in my 1076 than the WInchester Silvertips, but not by enough to quibble about. Power level on target vs recoil is the same to me. I have not shot any big hardcast loads, I have big bore single action Rugers for that sort of thing.
I really appreciate all the information that DMC put on here and the personal stories from Sigp. This is one of the big reasons I really like participating on this site, home of the educated people of the internet.
 
Anybody have a palmswell grip they would like to get rid of for a 1076. I am having a hard time finding one for sale anywhere. Or will the ones listed on S & W that fit the 1006 going to work. I would imagine they don't have the space for the decocker.
 
Originally posted by 940lvr:


I am not trying to be a jerk here, but is that the same article that "fully described" that the FBI's 1076's functioned differently than other 1076s because of the FBI's training to "prep" the trigger? In your original post you stated that the FBI's 1076's were different because of the "prepping the trigger" thing. It seems that everyone has agreed that all 1076s function the same (with the exception of the magazine disconnect which was not exclusive to the FBI's guns). I would like to read the article if you have some way to retrieve it.
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I am glad you clarified that you are not trying to be a jerk, because I might have been confused otherwise.

I do not believe I said the FBI 1076s "functioned differently," but instead indicated that the FBI pistols used somewhat different parts than the standard 1076s.

One author describes it thusly:

"The FBI wanted the triggers with a non-standard release point to work
with the Rule-3-violating "trigger-prep" presentation that was in vogue at
the time. S&W blamed this for the recall."

Whether they did or did not is not the point I was making. I was trying to make the point that for whatever reason, the FBI's method of "prepping the trigger" did not get along well with the trigger/decocker system on the FBI 1076. Apparently, prepping the trigger would occasionally cause the 1076s to lock up so they would not fire. This resulted in at least one recall of the 1076.

If you will do your own research, you will come to the same conclusion that I have. FBI taught "prepping the trigger" at the time of the adoption of the 1076 acording to the article I mentioned.

The manual written by SSA Urey W. Patrick, Firearms Training Unit, FBI Academy, Quantico, Virginia, written and taught at the time of the adoption of the FBI 1076 is located here:

http://www.firearmstactical.co...nstruction_guide.pdf

Please look in Section III, on page 3 under the heading "Trigger Control," at which place you will find the instruction:

""Prep" the trigger by taking up the double action slack, but only to the point resistance is felt."

I will thank you to do your own research from now on instead of asking me to do it for you.
 
Okay, hey just wanted to thank everyone for their "opinions" in this thread. I think we are all learning here. DMC even admitted to not knowing it all about this gun, so no worries fellas. But just had a question, I haven't shot my 1076 yet, so if the gun is loaded with a bullet in the chamber and the decocking lever is pulled, does that simply decock the lever and nothing more or will it fire if you pull the lever. Maybe this is a stupid question, but I am very, very new to this gun and don't want to learn the hard way. Thus, is the lever simply to make the gun easier and safer to carry in a firing position. Thanks.
 
Originally posted by dacoontz:
Okay, hey just wanted to thank everyone for their "opinions" in this thread. I think we are all learning here. DMC even admitted to not knowing it all about this gun, so no worries fellas. But just had a question, I haven't shot my 1076 yet, so if the gun is loaded with a bullet in the chamber and the decocking lever is pulled, does that simply decock the lever and nothing more or will it fire if you pull the lever. Maybe this is a stupid question, but I am very, very new to this gun and don't want to learn the hard way. Thus, is the lever simply to make the gun easier and safer to carry in a firing position. Thanks.
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the decocking lever on the side of the frame is the ONLY safe way to lower the hammer on a chambered round. Keep your finger off the trigger and operate the lever and the hammer will be uncocked and released to its rest point without firing the pistol (assuming all is working properly and the decocking is performed properly by keeping the finger off the trigger).

Always point in a safe direction when decocking.
 
Cool, thanks.

Originally posted by shawn mccarver:
Originally posted by dacoontz:
Okay, hey just wanted to thank everyone for their "opinions" in this thread. I think we are all learning here. DMC even admitted to not knowing it all about this gun, so no worries fellas. But just had a question, I haven't shot my 1076 yet, so if the gun is loaded with a bullet in the chamber and the decocking lever is pulled, does that simply decock the lever and nothing more or will it fire if you pull the lever. Maybe this is a stupid question, but I am very, very new to this gun and don't want to learn the hard way. Thus, is the lever simply to make the gun easier and safer to carry in a firing position. Thanks.
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the decocking lever on the side of the frame is the ONLY safe way to lower the hammer on a chambered round. Keep your finger off the trigger and operate the lever and the hammer will be uncocked and released to its rest point without firing the pistol (assuming all is working properly and the decocking is performed properly by keeping the finger off the trigger).

Always point in a safe direction when decocking.
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Originally posted by dmc8163:
. All 10,000+ S&W Model 10s and 13s were destroyed as well.

Dave, I'm really enjoying your posts on the 1076. I do have 3 Model 13s however, that letter having been shipped to Quantico. Here's the letter on one of them as well as a picture of the 3 revolvers; all shipped different months between 1980-1981
Stay safe
Eliza
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Eliza; I sure remember seeing a passel of those running around in the late '70s and into the mid '80s. I couldn't find one even on Department Letterhead until the late '80s when the FBI changed guns. Then they almost became a 'drug' on the market. My how things can "Change" over night in the Gun World!!!
 
Originally posted by dacoontz:
Anybody have a palmswell grip they would like to get rid of for a 1076. I am having a hard time finding one for sale anywhere. Or will the ones listed on S & W that fit the 1006 going to work. I would imagine they don't have the space for the decocker.
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Dacoontz,
P/N 205000000 - Grip, Palm Swell DL(Delrin) - ("FBI")
Are back in stock again at Smith and Wesson, I just received three sets.
See my post HERE.

The S&W P/N's for the 1026 and 1076 are:
203630000 - Grip, Curved DL(Delrin)
203650000 - Grip, Straight DL(Delrin)
205000000 - Grip, Palm Swell DL(Delrin) - ("FBI")

The widths installed on the gun are approx. using a vernier/dial indicator:

Curved - 1.075" Wide
Straight - 1.085" Wide
Palm Swell -("FBI") - 1.235" Wide

Regards,
BM1
 
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