Freedom from fossil fuels

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One crisp winter morning in Sweden, a cute little girl named Greta woke up to a perfect world, one where there were no petroleum products ruining the earth. She tossed aside her cotton sheet and wool blanket and stepped out onto a dirt floor covered with willow bark that had been pulverized with rocks. "What's this?" she asked.
"Pulverized willow bark," replied her fairy godmother.
"What happened to the carpet?" she asked.
"The carpet was nylon, which is made from butadiene and hydrogen cyanide, both made from petroleum," came the response.
Greta smiled, acknowledging that adjustments are necessary to save the planet, and moved to the sink to brush her teeth where instead of a toothbrush, she found a willow, mangled on one end to expose wood fibre bristles.
"Your old toothbrush?" noted her godmother, "Also nylon."
"Where's the water?" asked Greta.
"Down the road in the canal," replied her godmother, 'Just make sure you avoid water with cholera in it"
"Why's there no running water?" Greta asked, becoming a little peevish.
"Well," said her godmother, who happened to teach engineering at MIT, "Where do we begin?" There followed a long monologue about how sink valves need elastomer seats and how copper pipes contain copper, which has to be mined and how it's impossible to make all-electric earth-moving equipment with no gear lubrication or tires and how ore has to be smelted to a make metal, and that's tough to do with only electricity as a source of heat, and even if you use only electricity, the wires need insulation, which is petroleum-based, and though most of Sweden's energy is produced in an environmentally friendly way because of hydro and nuclear, if you do a mass and energy balance around the whole system, you still need lots of petroleum products like lubricants and nylon and rubber for tires and asphalt for filling potholes and wax and iPhone plastic and elastic to hold your underwear up while operating a copper smelting furnace and . . .
"What's for breakfast?" interjected Greta, whose head was hurting.
"Fresh, range-fed chicken eggs," replied her godmother. "Raw."
"How so, raw?" inquired Greta.
"Well, . . ." And once again, Greta was told about the need for petroleum products like transformer oil and scores of petroleum products essential for producing metals for frying pans and in the end was educated about how you can't have a petroleum-free world and then cook eggs. Unless you rip your front fence up and start a fire and carefully cook your egg in an orange peel like you do in Boy Scouts. Not that you can find oranges in Sweden anymore.
"But I want poached eggs like my Aunt Tilda makes," lamented Greta.
"Tilda died this morning," the godmother explained. "Bacterial pneumonia."
"What?!" interjected Greta. "No one dies of bacterial pneumonia! We have penicillin."
"Not anymore," explained godmother "The production of penicillin requires chemical extraction using isobutyl acetate, which, if you know your organic chemistry, is petroleum-based. Lots of people are dying, which is problematic because there's not any easy way of disposing of the bodies since backhoes need hydraulic oil and crematoriums can't really burn many bodies using as fuel Swedish fences and furniture, which are rapidly disappearing - being used on the black market for roasting eggs and staying warm."
This represents only a fraction of Greta's day, a day without microphones to exclaim into and a day without much food, and a day without carbon-fibre boats to sail in, but a day that will save the planet.
Tune in tomorrow when Greta needs a root canal and learns how Novocain is synthesized.
 
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Oil comes from the ground. Naturally. God gave it to man. It is nothing more than concentrated sunlight energy according to scientists. That alone drives the solar greenies mad.

Burned in todays highly controlled and catalyzed cars the emissions are CO2 and water vapor. Todays vehicles are 99% cleaner than they were in the 1960s (Google it).
There is a lot of controversy about global warming/cooling etc etc and many scientists don't agree on CO2 even being bad for the Earth..(plants LOVE IT) so the only thing the greenies have currently that will viably power the grid is nuclear. Considering the track record of nuclear energy and the aftermath (Fukushima still dumps 100 TONS if highly radioactive wastewater into the Pacific ocean EVER DAY) I am not on board with nuclear as an alternative to good ole dino oil.

Take a barrel of crude oil and a barrel of nuclear waste and ask how many would prefer to be dunked in one or the other...

93,000,000 miles away is as close to a nuclear reaction that I'm comfortable living with. (that would be the Sun)
 

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One crisp winter morning in Sweden, a cute little girl named Greta woke up to a perfect world, one where there were no petroleum products ruining the earth. She tossed aside her cotton sheet and wool blanket and stepped out onto a dirt floor covered with willow bark that had been pulverized with rocks. "What's this?" she asked.
"Pulverized willow bark," replied her fairy godmother.
"What happened to the carpet?" she asked.
"The carpet was nylon, which is made from butadiene and hydrogen cyanide, both made from petroleum," came the response.
Greta smiled, acknowledging that adjustments are necessary to save the planet, and moved to the sink to brush her teeth where instead of a toothbrush, she found a willow, mangled on one end to expose wood fibre bristles.
"Your old toothbrush?" noted her godmother, "Also nylon."
"Where's the water?" asked Greta.
"Down the road in the canal," replied her godmother, 'Just make sure you avoid water with cholera in it"
"Why's there no running water?" Greta asked, becoming a little peevish.
"Well," said her godmother, who happened to teach engineering at MIT, "Where do we begin?" There followed a long monologue about how sink valves need elastomer seats and how copper pipes contain copper, which has to be mined and how it's impossible to make all-electric earth-moving equipment with no gear lubrication or tires and how ore has to be smelted to a make metal, and that's tough to do with only electricity as a source of heat, and even if you use only electricity, the wires need insulation, which is petroleum-based, and though most of Sweden's energy is produced in an environmentally friendly way because of hydro and nuclear, if you do a mass and energy balance around the whole system, you still need lots of petroleum products like lubricants and nylon and rubber for tires and asphalt for filling potholes and wax and iPhone plastic and elastic to hold your underwear up while operating a copper smelting furnace and . . .
"What's for breakfast?" interjected Greta, whose head was hurting.
"Fresh, range-fed chicken eggs," replied her godmother. "Raw."
"How so, raw?" inquired Greta.
"Well, . . ." And once again, Greta was told about the need for petroleum products like transformer oil and scores of petroleum products essential for producing metals for frying pans and in the end was educated about how you can't have a petroleum-free world and then cook eggs. Unless you rip your front fence up and start a fire and carefully cook your egg in an orange peel like you do in Boy Scouts. Not that you can find oranges in Sweden anymore.
"But I want poached eggs like my Aunt Tilda makes," lamented Greta.
"Tilda died this morning," the godmother explained. "Bacterial pneumonia."
"What?!" interjected Greta. "No one dies of bacterial pneumonia! We have penicillin."
"Not anymore," explained godmother "The production of penicillin requires chemical extraction using isobutyl acetate, which, if you know your organic chemistry, is petroleum-based. Lots of people are dying, which is problematic because there's not any easy way of disposing of the bodies since backhoes need hydraulic oil and crematoriums can't really burn many bodies using as fuel Swedish fences and furniture, which are rapidly disappearing - being used on the black market for roasting eggs and staying warm."
This represents only a fraction of Greta's day, a day without microphones to exclaim into and a day without much food, and a day without carbon-fibre boats to sail in, but a day that will save the planet.
Tune in tomorrow when Greta needs a root canal and learns how Novocain is synthesized.

Perhaps a strong case for petroleum being way too valuable to burn !
 
IBTL: I have no arguement with freedom of speech or thought.

But Greta Thunberg seems to as most so-called "social justice warriors" do very little thinking or research before she protests the latest thing to protest about.
To me, it seems she never met a protest she didn't like nor any publicity she wouldn't accept. I seriously doubt her true committment to any of her professed beliefs. Most of the people like her are like a flag in a hurricane and blow anyway the breeze is blowing at the time.
History is full of Greta Thunbergs just as it is David Hoggs. They have their moment in the sun then disappear. In a few years if her name is dropped, people will ask "Who?" just as they do about David Hogg.
My suggestion to people in regards to her antics are simple: treat them as coming from someone who is ill-informed and hasn't got years of experience under her belt to understand little more than Tide Pods are not part of the basic food groups.
Marxists have a term for people like her..."useful idiots". The world is full of them.
 
I've said this many times about leftists, not just her. They are intelligent and committed to their cause. Dismissing them as being merely 'stupid' is greatly underestimating them.

So true. There are folks that sling the words; stupid, moron, idiot and imbecile around purely as insults aimed at self-elevation.

If they bothered to look up the clinical definitions of said words they would realize that they have a touch of commonality with them.

Words have meaning.
 
So true. There are folks that sling the words; stupid, moron, idiot and imbecile around purely as insults aimed at self-elevation.

If they bothered to look up the clinical definitions of said words they would realize that they have a touch of commonality with them.

Words have meaning.

Even worse than that, when they sling those terms around, they are making the statement that they are not worth the effort to fight and dissuades others from fighting them too. If we don't fight them we have lost.
 
When we can get a747 off the ground to fly halfway around the world on something other than kerosine, call me.
 
We will never be free of fossil fuels…they're simply too important for our survival and lifestyles. Fuels…lubricants…just about every piece of technology and manufacturing depends on it.

Our planet is full of natural resources for us to exploit…and I don't mean exploit as a pejorative…I mean as for us to exploit for all our benefits…such as agricultural where we increase crop yields to feed the world…for the transportation to get such products to market and to the end user.

Does any of that mean we shouldn't be better conservators of our planet? Of course not…we as a race haven't always been smart about that…but we're learning and improving. Well…at least the more developed countries are.
 

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