Unless you are cleaning guns for an army, I can't imagine why you would ever want a gallon. I use about an ounce a month. Since there are 128 ounces in a gallon, that would last me over ten years. The actual yearly cost would be about $27 dollars or a little over $2 a month. That's about 2 rounds worth of ammo in my BLK 300.
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Unless you are cleaning guns for an army, I can't imagine why you would ever want a gallon. I use about an ounce a month. Since there are 128 ounces in a gallon, that would last me over ten years. The actual yearly cost would be about $27 dollars or a little over $2 a month. That's about 2 rounds worth of ammo in my BLK 300.
We used to dilute Molylube with 7808 engine oil for lubricating the teleflex cables on J71 Jet engine exhaust nozels back in the 60's. If I could get some of that today it would be really slick on the slide rails. Use sparingly.
JMichaelTX
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Get the Facts on FrogLube
Hey guys,
I am seeing an incredible diversity of opinions on FrogLube (FL) both in these S&W forums, on YouTube, and elsewhere. It makes it very hard for someone like me to get the real facts so I can make a well informed decision on which product I want to use to clean and lube my M&P Shield with.
I tend not to believe the extreme opinions/posts, be they pro or con.
So, IMO, here is what contributes to problems in the use of any product, in this case, the use of FrogLube:
At this point I don't really trust any YouTube videos, even though some are produced by some well-known, experienced, gun owners.
So, how do we get the facts on FrogLube?
Well, I suggest we start with the info provided by the lube manufacturer:
Next, be sure to thoroughly read your gun owner's manual on cleaning and lubrication. For example, although some YouTube videos show applying FrogLub almost everywhere inside and outside your gun,
my M&P Shield manual says:
Finally, talk to someone you actually know and trust that has used FrogLube. But even with them, make sure to find out how they actually applied the lube.
Hey guys,
I am seeing an incredible diversity of opinions on FrogLube (FL) both in these S&W forums, on YouTube, and elsewhere. It makes it very hard for someone like me to get the real facts so I can make a well informed decision on which product I want to use to clean and lube my M&P Shield with.
I tend not to believe the extreme opinions/posts, be they pro or con.
So, IMO, here is what contributes to problems in the use of any product, in this case, the use of FrogLube:
- Failure to read and follow gun manufacturer's instructions
- Failure to read and follow lube manufacturer's instructions
- Overlubrication
- Use of lubes not designed for guns (S&W advises to use only lubes designed for guns)
- Using more than one lube on a gun without first doing a thorough cleaning
- Failure to properly clean the gun before applying lube
At this point I don't really trust any YouTube videos, even though some are produced by some well-known, experienced, gun owners.
So, how do we get the facts on FrogLube?
Well, I suggest we start with the info provided by the lube manufacturer:
- FrogLube FAQ
- Directions for Use
- Video by FrogLube manufacturer
[ame=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ingWOXynQek]Video by FrogLube[/ame] - Call FrogLube Customer Service at 855-376-4582. I just called them and the CSR was very helpful, very friendly.
Next, be sure to thoroughly read your gun owner's manual on cleaning and lubrication. For example, although some YouTube videos show applying FrogLub almost everywhere inside and outside your gun,
my M&P Shield manual says:
Finally, talk to someone you actually know and trust that has used FrogLube. But even with them, make sure to find out how they actually applied the lube.
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DoubleAdobe
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You are right, lotta hype out there. But do this. Get a couple little sample tubes, they are enough to do a couple guns a couple of times. Then you can make up your mind. I like it, but don't take my word for it, try it is my advice.
My dad, a WWII, Korea, and Nam vet, used WD40, sewing machine oil and the occasional dip stick. He never had a gun fail, rust or fall apart on him.
As Muss Muggins said, "anything from pig fat to German soldiers works."
Don't over think it.
Now where did I put that riding crop?
As Muss Muggins said, "anything from pig fat to German soldiers works."
Don't over think it.
Now where did I put that riding crop?
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JMichaelTX
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I'm not "overthinking" it. I'm thinking smart, and doing my due diligence in the selection of a product that could cause or prevent a malfunction at a critical moment.
I don't know why anyone would resort to using just any lubricant they happen to have on hand when there are a number of great gun lubricants to choose from.
Anecdotes are fine and funny, but I don't think I want to risk my life on one. LOL
Of course, each person is free to choose whatever they would like.
From the S&W M&P Shield Owner's Manual:
I don't know why anyone would resort to using just any lubricant they happen to have on hand when there are a number of great gun lubricants to choose from.
Anecdotes are fine and funny, but I don't think I want to risk my life on one. LOL
Of course, each person is free to choose whatever they would like.
From the S&W M&P Shield Owner's Manual:
Bkreutz
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Here's a thread that I started a year and a half ago, you may find it useful. Not trying to promote FL, but I see no reason to use anything else. http://smith-wessonforum.com/smith-wesson-m-p-pistols/400655-m-p-cleaning-101-a.html My cleaning routine is a bit different now due to my new pistol having a Loctited compensator on it. I clean the barrel without taking it out of the slide. (taking the comp off requires the use of a torch). See post #15 in this thread.
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JMichaelTX
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@Bkreutz: Thanks. I saw another post of yours in another thread, with a link to your cleaning post. Great job! I have already downloaded it for reference and study.
I just received my order for a small set of FrogLube Solvent & CLP that I will be applying/testing this weekend.
I just received my order for a small set of FrogLube Solvent & CLP that I will be applying/testing this weekend.
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I've read feedback on FL and for the most part people do seem to like it. There are others that claim it jammed up their Auto Loaders - but they might not have followed directions. What a surprise...........
As of now I've got enough gun lube, rust preventative and cleaners to last me for 20+ years! I've been using Rig #2 oil for cleaning, lubrication and protection but recently have started using Birchwood Casey Synthetic Gun Oil which is an incredible lubricant - too soon to know how it prevents rust and cleans, so for now lubrication is what I am primarily using it for.
I use Rig +P grease on my Auto slides and Rig Universal Grease for long term protection. Even if FL turns out to be the miracle gun juice of the Century, I will just use up what I've got already because the stuff I am currently using has never failed me and I've got plenty of it.. In 20 years they'll come out with 100 new ones anyway.
If I was just starting out in the hobby I would definitely give FR a whirl.
As of now I've got enough gun lube, rust preventative and cleaners to last me for 20+ years! I've been using Rig #2 oil for cleaning, lubrication and protection but recently have started using Birchwood Casey Synthetic Gun Oil which is an incredible lubricant - too soon to know how it prevents rust and cleans, so for now lubrication is what I am primarily using it for.
I use Rig +P grease on my Auto slides and Rig Universal Grease for long term protection. Even if FL turns out to be the miracle gun juice of the Century, I will just use up what I've got already because the stuff I am currently using has never failed me and I've got plenty of it.. In 20 years they'll come out with 100 new ones anyway.
If I was just starting out in the hobby I would definitely give FR a whirl.
Rastoff
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I like your thought process JMichaelTX. Read all the opinions. Do lots of your own research. Use the brain God gave you to assess what's real research and what's just opinion.
I've used Frog Lube and I like it, but not for everything. I used it exclusively on my M&Ps and they seem to work well with it.
I've used Frog Lube and I like it, but not for everything. I used it exclusively on my M&Ps and they seem to work well with it.
