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Well another mentally ill person has killed six people and injured more. The media should be demonizing guns any time now.

I feel bad for the families of the victims and the family of the shooter/stabber. This person posted videos announcing his intentions and the cops thought he was kind and polite.

The only up side to this tragedy is it happened in California and the guns were legally obtained. I guess all those necessary gun laws worked out great. Time to re-evaluate Ca.

Let's keep the victims and their families in our thoughts and prayers.
 
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Yes, sorry for the victims but the fact that the gun was obtained legally in Cal. is not a good thing. It only means that Cal. will only try harder to restrict them.

Sorry. Someone really has to create sarcasm quotes to use in forums.

However this could act as a lesson to other states that just because you have the toughest gun laws around things like this will always happen.

Of course your correct. This could lead to even tougher laws.
We need to keep up the good fight.
 
Note that he also stabbed a couple people to death before going on his shooting spree.

Yes... the first three were stabbed to death.

I am just getting sick and tired of the fact that any nut can waltz into a wal-mart and buy a knife with no background check.

They should ban both knives AND murder.

Janet Napolitano is in charge at this university.
 
Yes... the first three were stabbed to death.

I am just getting sick and tired of the fact that any nut can waltz into a wal-mart and buy a knife with no background check.

They should ban both knives AND murder.

Janet Napolitano is in charge at this university.

Okay; first off: There will be not much of a battle cry for the banning of guns on this one. His PARENTS are both 'Hollywood', and abhor guns. So they have absolutely no idea how their little cupcake wound up with a gun. This alone will divert some of the gun curio, as the very people who are least likely to have guns....well one of them wound up abusing his rights, via murder.
As well noted; he stabbed 3 young men to death before he went on his sojourn through Alta Vista. He THEN ran over a couple people with his car. Serious injury on one, one moderate injury. After this, he began shooting.

So, as usual, we need to BAN, in this order:
1. Crazy 22 yr. old male virgins. Any guy who is wealthy, has a nice car, and is not ugly as a spider should be able to rope in a little companionship in such a location as UCSB. He has shown his absolute failure as a male of the species. Creatures of his societal rank should simply be banned.
2. Knives. Knives kill and injure MORE people in the US every year than Pit Bulls and slipping in the shower combined. Ban them for the children.
3. Cars; they have been used as killing weapons for far too long, and their numbers in the US are astoundingly high. Especially ban evil black cars. They are related closely to evil black rifles, and that's enough for me.

And, let's not forget that his parents DID turn him in, but it's not so simple to just lock a person up until they do something wrong. I commend his parents for notifying the authorities. I am very sorry for them, as they saw something bad coming, but there was no simple, easy way to prevent their son from snapping.

It's a mental health issue for this catastrophe. It's not a gun issue.

I don't know what to pray for after this one. But I'm asking God to give grace and peace to all the families involved, and open the floor to hell and let this warped young monster fall.
 
It's a mental health issue for this catastrophe. It's not a gun issue.

^^^ This, multiplied by lots.

I was a bit baffled that law enforcement were not more proactive. Seems to me that they had a good case to go looking if he had obtained any firearms. With his videos they would have had a case for confiscating them. Then I looked at certain of the reported circumstances and it became clear (at least to me) why no action was taken.
 
The father of one of the victims has already told the press that it is the fault of "irresponsible politicians and the NRA."

You can really expect no less from grieving parents immediately after a event like this. Frankly, I have the exact same feelings towards alcohol because of a senseless fatal DWI in my family.
 
According to the paper mom had called the police due to his posting of videos. Parents knew their son was troubled yet no history of treatment, nothing. Knowning your child has problems and not seeking care for them is the problem here.
 
Mental illness is certainly a big issue here, but it is not a blanket that covers all. Disregard for human life, entitlement, lack of love and respect for others, are all major players, too.
 
The parents of the mass murderer said they are "staunchly against guns."

How about knives? The killer's first three victims were stabbed.

Also note that the dead killer's father, one of those "staunchly against guns," was an assistant director for the film The Hunger Games in which young people bludgeon each other other to death with clubs. Stab each other with knives. Shoot each other with arrows. But I guess glorifying all that violence was fine since it didn't involve the guns he is staunchly against. Despite all the gun laws in CA this still occurred. The lesson is that gun laws don't work. But there was the father of a victim running to a microphone to call for more gun control. That was obscene. A normal person would not be interested in holding a press conference within minutes of losing a child to criminal violence.

Typical Hollywood hypocrite. He makes a fortune by promoting violence in films then gets all high and mighty about gun control.

I just wish an armed citizen could have put a round in his punk son's head early in his murderous rampage and saved some lives. But he was pretty safe driving around in that exclusive ocean front California community shooting at people from his BMW (how cliche). He knew that none of his victims would be armed. Try that **** in Arkansas and you WILL draw return fire.
 
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The lead of the speakers last nite stated his deputies had no probable cause to go inside the home to look for anything. I don't know of anyway they would have known he had bought firearms. Unless his ramblings stated so.
 
I think just the opposite of the OP's worry will happen.

Short of an outright massacre like the one in Connecticut, events involving guns will obtain only momentary notice in the news before another catastrophe or tragedy or celebrity wedding takes its place.

We as a society are becoming numb to these incidents, because they have become so commonplace.

I'm not saying this is a good thing. Just the opposite, in fact.

My prayers go out to the families of this senseless tragedy, including the perpetrator's.
 
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Already happening. Rumors are running wild in the Twitterverse.
 
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I think just the opposite of the OP's worry will happen.

Short of an outright massacre like the one in Connecticut, events involving guns will obtain only momentary notice in the news before another catastrophe or tragedy or celebrity wedding takes its place.

We as a society are becoming numb to these incidents, because they have become so commonplace.

I'm not saying this is a good thing. Just the opposite, in fact.

My prayers go out to the families of this senseless tragedy, and to the perpetrator as well for healing during the lifetime of incarceration he deserves.

I think his incarceration will be in hell, he's dead to.
 
Nearly every mass shooting incident in the last twenty years, and multiple other instances of suicide and isolated shootings all share one thing in common 'psychiatric drugs'....

Just take a look at the list below....




• Eric Harris age 17 (first on Zoloft then Luvox) and Dylan Klebold aged 18 (Columbine school shooting in Littleton, Colorado), killed 12 students and 1 teacher, and wounded 23 others, before killing themselves. Klebold's medical records have never been made available to the public.

• Jeff Weise, age 16, had been prescribed 60 mg/day of Prozac (three times the average starting dose for adults!) when he shot his grandfather, his grandfather's girlfriend and many fellow students at Red Lake, Minnesota. He then shot himself. 10 dead, 12 wounded.

• Cory Baadsgaard, age 16, Wahluke (Washington state) High School, was on Paxil (which caused him to have hallucinations) when he took a rifle to his high school and held 23 classmates hostage. He has no memory of the event.

• Chris Fetters, age 13, killed his favorite aunt while taking Prozac.

• Christopher Pittman, age 12, murdered both his grandparents while taking Zoloft.

• Mathew Miller, age 13, hung himself in his bedroom closet after taking Zoloft for 6 days.

• Kip Kinkel, age 15, (on Prozac and Ritalin) shot his parents while they slept then went to school and opened fire killing 2 classmates and injuring 22 shortly after beginning Prozac treatment.

• Luke Woodham, age 16 (Prozac) killed his mother and then killed two students, wounding six others.

• A boy in Pocatello, ID (Zoloft) in 1998 had a Zoloft-induced seizure that caused an armed stand off at his school.

• Michael Carneal (Ritalin), age 14, opened fire on students at a high school prayer meeting in West Paducah, Kentucky. Three teenagers were killed, five others were wounded..

• A young man in Huntsville, Alabama (Ritalin) went psychotic chopping up his parents with an ax and also killing one sibling and almost murdering another.

• Andrew Golden, age 11, (Ritalin) and Mitchell Johnson, aged 14, (Ritalin) shot 15 people, killing four students, one teacher, and wounding 10 others.

• TJ Solomon, age 15, (Ritalin) high school student in Conyers, Georgia opened fire on and wounded six of his class mates.

• Rod Mathews, age 14, (Ritalin) beat a classmate to death with a bat.

• James Wilson, age 19, (various psychiatric drugs) from Breenwood, South Carolina, took a .22 caliber revolver into an elementary school killing two young girls, and wounding seven other children and two teachers.

• Elizabeth Bush, age 13, (Paxil) was responsible for a school shooting in Pennsylvania

• Jason Hoffman (Effexor and Celexa) – school shooting in El Cajon, California

• Jarred Viktor, age 15, (Paxil), after five days on Paxil he stabbed his grandmother 61 times.

• Chris Shanahan, age 15 (Paxil) in Rigby, ID who out of the blue killed a woman.

• Jeff Franklin (Prozac and Ritalin), Huntsville, AL, killed his parents as they came home from work using a sledge hammer, hatchet, butcher knife and mechanic's file, then attacked his younger brothers and sister.

• Neal Furrow (Prozac) in LA Jewish school shooting reported to have been court-ordered to be on Prozac along with several other medications.

• Kevin Rider, age 14, was withdrawing from Prozac when he died from a gunshot wound to his head. Initially it was ruled a suicide, but two years later, the investigation into his death was opened as a possible homicide. The prime suspect, also age 14, had been taking Zoloft and other SSRI antidepressants.

• Alex Kim, age 13, hung himself shortly after his Lexapro prescription had been doubled.

• Diane Routhier was prescribed Welbutrin for gallstone problems. Six days later, after suffering many adverse effects of the drug, she shot herself.

• Billy Willkomm, an accomplished wrestler and a University of Florida student, was prescribed Prozac at the age of 17. His family found him dead of suicide – hanging from a tall ladder at the family's Gulf Shore Boulevard home in July 2002.

• Kara Jaye Anne Fuller-Otter, age 12, was on Paxil when she hung herself from a hook in her closet. Kara's parents said ".... the damn doctor wouldn't take her off it and I asked him to when we went in on the second visit. I told him I thought she was having some sort of reaction to Paxil...")

• Gareth Christian, Vancouver, age 18, was on Paxil when he committed suicide in 2002, (Gareth's father could not accept his son's death and killed himself.)

• Julie Woodward, age 17, was on Zoloft when she hung herself in her family's detached garage.

• Matthew Miller was 13 when he saw a psychiatrist because he was having difficulty at school. The psychiatrist gave him samples of Zoloft. Seven days later his mother found him dead, hanging by a belt from a laundry hook in his closet.

• Kurt Danysh, age 18, and on Prozac, killed his father with a shotgun. He is now behind prison bars, and writes letters, trying to warn the world that SSRI drugs can kill.

• Woody __, age 37, committed suicide while in his 5th week of taking Zoloft. Shortly before his death his physician suggested doubling the dose of the drug. He had seen his physician only for insomnia. He had never been depressed, nor did he have any history of any mental illness symptoms.

• A boy from Houston, age 10, shot and killed his father after his Prozac dosage was increased.

• Hammad Memon, age 15, shot and killed a fellow middle school student. He had been diagnosed with ADHD and depression and was taking Zoloft and "other drugs for the conditions."

• Matti Saari, a 22-year-old culinary student, shot and killed 9 students and a teacher, and wounded another student, before killing himself. Saari was taking an SSRI and a benzodiazapine.

• Steven Kazmierczak, age 27, shot and killed five people and wounded 21 others before killing himself in a Northern Illinois University auditorium. According to his girlfriend, he had recently been taking Prozac, Xanax and Ambien. Toxicology results showed that he still had trace amounts of Xanax in his system.

• Finnish gunman Pekka-Eric Auvinen, age 18, had been taking antidepressants before he killed eight people and wounded a dozen more at Jokela High School – then he committed suicide.

• Asa Coon from Cleveland, age 14, shot and wounded four before taking his own life. Court records show Coon was on Trazodone.

• Jon Romano, age 16, on medication for depression, fired a shotgun at a teacher in his New York high school.

Missing from list... 3 of 4 known to have taken these same meds....

• What drugs was Jared Lee Loughner on, age 21...... killed 6 people and injuring 14 others in Tuscon, Az?

• What drugs was James Eagan Holmes on, age 24..... killed 12 people and injuring 59 others in Aurora Colorado?

• What drugs was Jacob Tyler Roberts on, age 22, killed 2 injured 1, Clackamas Or?

• What drugs was Adam Peter Lanza on, age 20, Killed 26 and wounded 2 in Newtown Ct?

Those focusing on further firearms bans or magazine restrictions are clearly focusing on the wrong issue and asking the wrong questions, either as a deliberate attempt to hide these links, or out of complete and utter ignorance.

Don't let them! Force our elected "representatives" and the media to cast a harsh spotlight on this issue. Don't stop hounding them until they do.


Learn more: Every mass shooting over last 20 years has one thing in common... and it's not guns - NaturalNews.com
 
Here is a brief summation of Mr. Bat-guano crazy's life, from a person who read his biography. Seems young Mr. crazy kept a pretty good diary of his life, and laid it all out for everyone.....




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I spent some time reading his autobiography and manifesto to see what made the guy tick. I say autobiography because he tells his entire life story in excruciating detail, year by year, complete with the thoughts he was thinking all along the way.

Because he's surprisingly truthful about his life experiences and internal dialogue, it's pretty easy to see what happened here. The guy was a defective unit from the beginning, and his first memories are of jealousy and resentment. He was filled with self-loathing over being half-asian rather than 100% white, and also felt inferior because he was small and physically weak. He completely lacked the ability to interact with others so he became an outcast. At the same time, though, he perceives himself as an intellectual who's superior to everyone else. And he feels entitled to everything good in the world--money, respect, adoration, happiness, etc.--even though he refuses to work for it. He just think he "deserves" it.

So when he reaches puberty, and starts taking an interest in girls, he's extremely dismayed that they don't show an interest in him. Like everything else, he thinks he's entitled to girls' affections. Of course, it's not just the girls that avoid him--he also manages to alienate the few male friends he had because he's a total weirdo. By the time he's 17 (about 5 or 6 years ago) he's already so resentful that he wants to "punish" and "torture" anyone who's having sex, because it's such an injustice that he's not.

The resentment continues to build to the point that he can't go out in public because he inevitably sees men and women having fun together, and that disgusts him. He begins planning his "Day of Retribution" to murder people who have a happier life than he does, but are undeserving of it. After putting it off a few times, he decides to do it this weekend because it's his last opportunity before the end of the UCSB and local community college school year. And we all know what happened after that.

In short, this is one of the most pathetic, sick, and twisted *******s you can imagine. It's just a shame that he didn't end his wretched life in solitude. I have absolutely no sympathy for him because he constantly rebuffed his family's efforts to get him on track, choosing instead to mope around like a loser and play World of Warcraft all day.

A few other things of note:

1. While he complains that girls "won't give him a chance" and pay no attention to him, there's pretty much no mention in all 140 pages of him actually trying to talk to a girl. If he was was actually trying to meet women and getting rejected, you had better believe that would have been included in his story. It appears the woman-hating complex developed because women weren't approaching him and throwing themselves at him. In other words, he killed 6 people because lack of female attention was the bane of his existence, yet he never sought female attention to begin with.

2. The guy wanted to be rich so he could attract women, but refused to work at any job because he considered it beneath him. His dream was to become a millionaire overnight, so he spent thousands of dollars playing the lottery. He believed he would win it because it was his destiny to be rich and powerful--he just didn't want to work for it.

3. One of his plans for the "Day of Retribution" included traveling from Santa Barbara to Los Angeles to kill his six-year-old brother so he wouldn't "surpass" him as a man and have sex. If that's not evil, I don't know what is.

4. When I first read this story I thought he was a UCSB student. He wasn't. He had been attending a community college adjacent to UCSB, but dropped out of all his classes a couple years ago. He had been lying to his parents that he was still going to school so they would continue to support him financially.

5. Obviously hindsight is 20/20, but it seems like if his parents had come down harder on him and not gone along with his bull**** for so long, this never would have happened. He describes numerous instances of his parents trying to get him help and change his life, but each time he manipulated them into going along with his plans rather than theirs.
 
I think just the opposite of the OP's worry will happen.

Short of an outright massacre like the one in Connecticut, events involving guns will obtain only momentary notice in the news before another catastrophe or tragedy or celebrity wedding takes its place.

We as a society are becoming numb to these incidents, because they have become so commonplace.

I'm not saying this is a good thing. Just the opposite, in fact.

My prayers go out to the families of this senseless tragedy, and to the perpetrator as well for healing during the lifetime of incarceration he deserves.

Actually Vigil, the numbers of shootings and related deaths has gone down over the years in a 'per capita' sense. What we have nowadays is much more rapid news reporting and access to information. 30 years ago, no one in 49 states would have ever known that a police officer shot a man in my driveway who pointed a fake gun at him. But with modern technology, an astute police shooting statistic follower would be easily able to figure this one out, and has heard about it, regardless of where he lives.

Crazy. Crazy has ALWAYS taken on many forms, but we now get to see more of them thrust before us, because of modern information. So we see many new sides of the nuttier than a fruitcake crowd.....:confused:
 
When does the "anti-gun frenzy" ever STOP?

Sounds like the typical spoiled rich kid with whom I went to college in the '70s. Boy you should see the look on their faces when they encounter somebody whom they can run over.

Anybody with a "manifesto" is a malignant narcissist and is probably going to murder somebody at some point.
 
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