Glock 17 DETHRONES M&P9 edc gun!

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I've had a month's vacation from smith-wessonforum.

Things have happened.

I always didn't like Glocks. About 15 years ago, I tried the G23 .40 and the G19 9mm. Hated the boxy grip, the finger grooves. Just didn't like it. Picked up and handles G26 a couple of times. Dreadful.

About 3 years ago, I ditched the compact 1911 for EDC and got M&P9 full size. No complaints, M&P's a good gun.

I recently shot a G17 gen 5. Gone are those problems. Finger grooves gone, stippling is right, grip shape is improved and fits my XL hand.

So I bought one. Did a shoot-out, Smith vs. Glock. I shot the Glock better right out of the box than I did the Smith with which I'm familiar.


BOTTOM LINE: Glock is the new EDC for the mean streets of the big city; M&P is for sale.


Call me traitor.
 
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Univibe... traitor...:D (You have asked for this)...

But seriously, like Eric300 posted, use what works best for you.
I've tried few Glocks and none of them shot even close to my M&P9, sometimes I think my M&P22 shoots better than Glocks...:p
But this is only personal preference...
 
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Glock gives financial incentives to billions of law enforcement agencies to trade in other brands and switch to Glock.

As to shooting a Glock better than a (fill in the name of the chosen competitor here), it all depends upon the shooter. Some love the feel of the Glock, some cannot conform and assimilate into the Glock.
 
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Billions of law enforcement and military personnel carry Glocks for a reason. They just flat out work as shooting irons. (Even though they are made of plastic.) Glock: Perfection. Truth in advertising.
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Because the bureaucrats decided it was the best gun for their folks based on pricing, politics, etc. Doesn't mean it is best.:D
 
I own 2 Glocks, well, technically 3 but one is a cut away model. The best thing I can say for them is they work, but then so does every other pistol I own or I wouldn't own it (again, not counting the cut away model). What Glock lacks though is soul. Glocks are like a cheap wrench. It works, but it's no Snap-On.
 
Over a yr ago , when I got my Texas permit I witnessed the guy next to me during the shooting exercise using a glock . It became a " jam-0-matic " before the range session was over . Maybe it was his ammo , I don't know but it sure wasn't pretty watching him struggling in those timed sessions . Regards Paul
 
Carry and shoot what fits you and your needs the best. I still love revolvers and carry one sometimes. Switched to a 1911 of some sort for years. Several years ago I tried a Glock 19 and hated the blocky grip. Later carried and shot a Gen-4 19 that I customized for some time. I sold it as well as a CZ P10-C and purchased a Gen 5 Glock 45 and an M&P 2.0 Compact. I like the no finger grooves and the fact that being a lefty, they both have slide stop/slide lock on both sides. I have also gotten used to the grip angle on the Glock and they just work. Nothing wrong with any of the quality striker fired stuff that is out there. I recommend several quality brands to my students.
 
I had a similar realization about 8 years ago, but it was the Gen 4 Glock 19. Shot it better than my M&P first time out after quite a bit of time with my M&P with an Apex DKAEK trigger. Also happened to fit my hand better. Though recently I made the switch to the Sig P365XL for EDC.
 
I'm not going to take sides or bash on any brand. All my handguns are 95% S&W, 4% Ruger and 1% Glock. Only Glock I own is a 17 because I wanted to see for myself what it was, or wasn't. I also had a 22/40 cal, also no issues with that either; sold it to someone who wanted it more than me.

I don't keep anything that I can't carry with complete confidence, revolver or semi-auto. I shoot them all well and they are all accurate (for me/my use). Just my opinion :-)
 
Looks we have started "Glock Talk" :D
I'm staying with M&P :)

GLOCK + 99% AFTERMARKET PARTS = PERFECTION.... never out of the box.
Sorry, but Glock's logo is little exaggerated...;)
 
I don't know if I would EDC a Glock, but I do know that my opinion of them has changed. My first exposure to a Glock was in the late 1980s/early 1990s, and it was a "crew served" 9mm (probably some variant of the Model 17. Needless to say, I didn't like the feel.

Fast forward to about 2016. My club conducted an NRA range safety officer training, and I got trained. A year or two later, my club needed safety officers for a GSSF event, and I stepped forward. In that year, and the year that followed, I was lent a Glock so I could fire the match. I was appreciative, but I needed my own in order to learn it's quirks, that is when I was introduced to the Gen 5. Last spring I picked up my own Blue Label G17.5 and started looking for a GSSF match to participate in, despite COVID. I added miles to my truck heading from home to Virginia, Alabama, and Georgia, where I managed to win high challenged at each location.

For matches, I seem to be shooting the Glock acceptably, but I don't believe it could find a way into my carry routine. Currently, for when I can carry, it will be either a 1911 Commander or Sig P365 MS (when a semi-automatic would be more appropriate), or my 686+ 3" when a revolver would fit the bill. The G17.5 is a nice pistol, but I'm not ready to bank my life on it.
 
To each their own. Whatever you shoot best. But .... Billions?? Yes I realize some are stretching it. Have a great day whatever you choose to shoot or carry!!
 
That was fast. As I recall, only a month or two ago you were saying that you had sold your M&P40 in favor of the M&P9, and now you're already on to the Glock 17.

That being said, the Glock 17 is a time-proven design which just plain works, hence why it's still around after all these years.

Personally, I prefer the M&P or even the Sigma series because the grip just plain fits my hands better, but as I've been saying for the longest time, there's no such thing as the ideal, one-size-fits-all platform for self-defense, so you've got to do what works best for you.

I doubt that anyone save for the oldest of fogies, the most trendy of keyboard commandos, or one of those guys who unironically brags about how he concealed carries an otherwise gorgeous pistol in threads regarding self-defense/concealed carry will fault you for choosing a G17.
 
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I had always liked the Glock 17 idea until I shot one. To me no better placement than the near 20 year old original M&P 1.0. I am sticking with the M&P, but I am old (Fogie, keyboard commando?) and prefer the familiar. No Seal missions for me.
 
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Perfection.

It's always caused a chuckle for me each time it comes up.
I was first one my block back in what, '86 or '87 when they
they hit our shores? Our neighboring Miami PD was the first,
or least among the first, in the nation to adopt the 17. So, I was
naturally curious. Didn't last too long, before I tired of the slippery
texture, and odd grip angle.

I've watched and read of their storied progress over the years.
There used to be a website of great gun info called 'The Gun Zone'.
I forget the name of the gun-writer who ran it. He'd written under
the pseudonym of Waldo Lydecker for years, then finally outed himself.
Sadly, the domain is now up -for-sale. Anyhow, plug this search into your Google:

nypd glock malfunctions

As to the infamous Phase III malf, I have personally experienced it while shooting a 3rd gen G19 using Win/USA white-box 115gr FMJ. Witnessed by my friend who was with me that day. Yeah.....'Perfection'.
 
I've owned a few M&Ps and more than a few Glocks. At no point did I find anything about the M&P better than or more interesting than the Glock, but it's good to have options for those that don't get on well with Glocks due to grip angle or whatever reason.

S&W pretty much had to put out a Glock competitor to stay relevant in the LE market, and they made a perfectly serviceable pistol that I may not like as much as the Glock, but that I wouldn't cry about were I ordered to carry one around.
 
About that "soul" thing that keeps coming up: The quality of your soul isn't demonstrated by how beautiful one is, it's demonstrated by one's actions. I admit my Glock is an outlier (an early 17L), but compared to my Browning High-Power, the Glock is more reliable, more accurate (in two different shooter's hands), and points more naturally.

My BHP is more beautiful, but my Glock has more soul!

Disclaimer: I actually don't buy into the "soul in inanimate objects" thing. I just like to cause trouble!
 
I'm certainly a multi gun shooter. I've carried, for a living, revolvers, SA/DA S&Ws and Sigs, 1911s, and both V1 M&P 9s and Glocks. Fortunately, not all at the same time. :)

My carry for the last several years, with no plans to change, is a Gen 4 G19FS. Other than a sight upgrade, it's bone stock and as reliable as I can make it. Here it is in the obligatory "macho" gun porn pic. :)

YMMV.

There are many like it...
 

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Nothing wrong with Glock, I own a few and carry a G45 at work. The only problem with Glock is they are like gingers, no soul.
 
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