Glock vs. M&P-yup. I'm askin' it.

[Biscut]

Shawn,

I'm with you there. 3rd Gen I really like. I do NOT like the feel of the Gen 4 in my hand. Parts are a big plus...that is what kept me from being a true XD fan (have a 45 and like it but do NOT like the lack of support from SA nor the mush trigger).

 

[Smithsrevenge]

I'm gonna get slapped for saying this.

But lately Smiths QC with the M&P's.......lacking.

I have to side with glock as of late *but that may change if S&W stops sending out flaking M&P's with guide rod issues*.

I love the feel of the M&P 4x more than the glock. Also like the sights more.

I feel glock mags are better made however.

Glocks finish is tougher.


Kind of a crossroads.

If S&W gets their CQ under control on the M&P's.......M&P all the way. Until then. Glock has the ball.

 

[AwfAxis]

Kind of new to all this, but from the newbie perspective, I've gravitated towards the S&W line instead of the Glocks. We have a G19, but it looks like a stapler with a handle, and feels like I'm holding a brick.

The M&P is sexier, and with the APEX, the trigger is better than the Glock. I put the 3.5 connector and comp springs in the glock, but it still feels like a revolver (ok, just half the distance).

We use the G19 for HD, since it is reliable. The M&P is for USPSA/IPSC and the 1911PC is for IDPA.

 

[bandj524]

I own a shield 40 and a glock 22C I would stack my shield against the 27 I used to have and my 22C over the FS 40 m&p I used to have. so it is kinda what ever you shoot best I guess.

 

[highaltitude]

Gen 4 Glock 19. I really like my Shield 9, but would not give up my Glock.

 

[Capt_Destro]

Gen 4 Glock 19. I really like my Shield 9, but would not give up my Glock.

Gen 4 isn't that bad. I did a slight mod with the back strap.

Much better fit than after market beaver tails. Plus since it is technically factory it shouldn't be disqualified from shooting leagues right?

 

[warbird]

I own several pistols of which two are polymer...my M&P 45c and my CZ 9mm Phantom. Both are absolutely reliable with accuracy going to the CZ. Have never owned a Glock due to the horrible to me grip angle and the looks of it which to me is just butt ugly. To each their own.

 

[andrewcdub]

I like both honestly. The M&P just feels better in my hand. Not to say that the glock doesn't, it's just the M&P almost feels like it belongs there. I really want a Glock 30s though. I held one a few days ago and it was hard to give back.

 

[PastureOfMuppets]

I go with whichever one you pick up and point that when you then look at the sights is aimed best. Personally, it was the M&P. I like a lot of other things about it, but frankly I don't care about this one is made better than that or that.

Both are proven in the field, both are mass produced. I would have gotten an XD otherwise.

I will own a Glock at some point and put in the effort for the muscle memory on the grip angle, but I have seen plenty of people pick one up and not batted an eyelid before shooting well.

 

[MSG Glenn]

I carried a G23 & G21 on duty when I was doing armed security. Got laid off due to plant closures & gave them to my son before WI had concealed carry. He went to the police academy & was issued an M&P 40 & told me he liked that a bit better than the Glocks which he loved. Meantime WI got a concealed carry law so I wanted a license & needed a gun. Without much money I bought a Sigma 40VE at an excellent price. I finally ordered an M&P 40C with my son's recommendation. Then I knew a PO who wanted to sell his old (3 years old) duty M&P 40 FS & now I no longer have the Glock yearning. I shot Glocks well - always qualified with a good score. I can buy M&Ps at a much better price at a local police supply store if I'm willing to wait for delivery.

 

[Autococker07]

I consider plastic guns to be like plastic silverware... they work for a picnic, but I wouldn't show em off..... I like them as tools due to cost & simplicity.

With that in mind, I have been a G-lock fan for a long time.... hard to top a pistol with 36 parts.... uber reliable (yeah crappy trigger, but I am ok with a "service" trigger, as all my duty rifles were miserable too). Until 2 years ago, I was firmly in the Glock camp.

When I looked at the M&P my first concern was too complex, like the other brands, things were done that I felt had no purpose (additional safties, sear cut out, etc) I DO NOT like extra parts..... Upon really tearing the pistols apart, I found that there was a method to the madness, and more impressively, a modular structure that allowed safeties to be removed/replaced. I also learned about the all steel subframe and replaceable rail blocks..... ok, the engineer wanna be in me was intrigued.... I actually do prefer the grip angle, and having "Little girl hands" the size of the handle on the 45 is much better than even a gen 4 G21. Now we are gettin somewhere..... The sear disconnect..... absolutely ****ing brilliant!!!!!! I LOVE that you can tear this gun down with a round in the chamber safely (I know thats dumb, and do clear the chamber, but many LEO accidents are upon pullin the trigger to breakdown, this absolutely eliminates this danger!) So at this point, I feel like they took a Glock, and reengineered the few warts that it has.... cool..... I ordered a compact 45....... then it happened....

The first time I shot this thing I was AMAZED.... my 45 is ungodly accurate, and its not just me, anyone who has fired it has found it to be superbly accurate, and comfortable to shoot.

I stil have my glocks, and love them, but I do think future purchases will be M&P unless glock backs the prices down to where they used to be... I do believe that at the range they are now, the Smith is a better buy.....

 

[skip4309]

I own both and I love both...can't get enough of either one...excellent pistols and you can't go wrong with either...Glocks are the simpler of the bunch to work on hands down!

 

[Yardbird]

Love the XD/XDm and M&P as Glocks feel like bricks in my hands (even gen3&4's) but I'm wanting a hi-cap 10mm, come on S&W/S.A. don't make me think of getting a G-20.

 

[catcus-jack]

Kind of new to all this, but from the newbie perspective, I've gravitated towards the S&W line instead of the Glocks. We have a G19, but it looks like a stapler with a handle, and feels like I'm holding a brick.

The M&P is sexier, and with the APEX, the trigger is better than the Glock. I put the 3.5 connector and comp springs in the glock, but it still feels like a revolver (ok, just half the distance).

We use the G19 for HD, since it is reliable. The M&P is for USPSA/IPSC and the 1911PC is for IDPA.

I don't think that 1911 is legal in IDPA CDP nor ESP.You may get by with it at local matches that don't enforce the rules but it won't fly at a sanctioned match.

 

[AwfAxis]

I have asked about this. My 1911 PC Bobtail has no custom mods at all.

The rules specify no ported barrels. This is the S&W factory slide, and isn't any different functionally as a Glock 34/35, or XDM 5.25 open top slide.

The "Allowed" section for CDP says "High Power Cuts" are allowed, but I'm not sure if this is what is being discussed.

The sticking point may be the rule about removal of material from the slide. Since this is factory design, and I did not "remove" anything, I guess it's up for debate.

The local matches I go to aren't worried about it.

UPDATE: I checked with those who have dealt with this model at the "Regional" level. It's not legal. Bummer. I guess I won't be going to any sanctioned events with this one. I love this thing, as its so light and the bobtail works well in my palm.

 

[TacticalResponse365]

Really?

I own neither pistol.

Glock and M&Ps to my hands feel like some villainous gunsmith changed the trigger to a light switch .Both pistols work well as mass market tools, but seeing as how I must earn my money to buy firearms I refuse to pay one red cent for a firearm that sells with a substandard trigger.

As far as polymer vs metal is concerned the only thing about the material that bothers me is that gunmakers sell polymer frame pistols at prices identical to those of metal frame competitors when they cost a fraction of the metal firearm to manufacture.
More power to those firms to rake in the money, but I will not join the lemmings jumping off the 'Tactical' cliff.

$550 dollars for a gun as good as a Glock or M&P is well worth I but for this argument I'm going to reference the Glock, You don't want to "Jump Off The Tactical Cliff" when it's been known for a Glock ( and it seems in your opinion, is inferior to "Steel" ) to have a round count as high and higher than 300,000 Rounds with nothing more than springs replaced! Now I love steel pistols in my opinion there's nothing more beautiful than a deeply blued 1911 but how many 1911s and other steel pistols in that price range reach that high of a round count? None that I know of most high end 1911s have round count life of around 20,000 Rounds and that's on the higher side, now I'm not saying that there isn't any out there I'm sure there is but most don't make it with out a cracked frame or some sort of catastrophic failure and the same goes for Glocks I'm not saying there perfect but for the price it's one hell of a pistol and to be so narrow minded "just because it doesn't cost as much to make as a steel gun but they still charge the same" opinion your losing out but hey you are entitled to your beliefs that's the great thing about America

 

[modraker]

The Glock23's Tenifer finish and solid feel exuded quality when I first laid my hands on the gun after ordering it online. Then I started shooting it. The grip felt uncomfortable in my hand and the trigger safety did not recede completely into the trigger. I was so unhappy with those features that I got rid of it after only 500 rounds. I have replaced it with a S&W SD40VE and I am extremely happy with my decision to switch.

I know, the SD40VE is not an M&P but I'm happy enough with it as a replacement for my Glock23. I also own an M&P9FS for target shooting and an M&P40Shield for carry, both of which I totally love.

 

[Tinn-Can]

The Glock23's Tenifer finish and solid feel exuded quality when I first laid my hands on the gun after ordering it online. Then I started shooting it. The grip felt uncomfortable in my hand and the trigger safety did not recede completely into the trigger. I was so unhappy with those features that I got rid of it after only 500 rounds.

Are you me? I like the glock from a design and execution standpoint, but shooting it just is full of meh and little questions that are answered by the m&p..

 

[dixie_boysles]

Traded a G27 4th gen for my mp40c and don't regret it one bit. Just like you said, the Block was like holding a 2x4. M&P just have superior ergos. Also yes I'll say it, blocks are *****. I know it has nothing to do with anything but in some way we like the look of our guns.

Also for me, I am just more accurate with the m&p

 

[Budasac]

I think my G23 (Gen 3) is pretty comfortable in my hand. I had it out at the last range trip with 4 guys and 7 guns and pretty much everyone felt it was the best shooter in the bunch. I'm looking for a 9mm now so maybe a M&P or a Sig P226.