Glockaholics go home!

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Boy did I start something!

Just for the record, I didn't mean to start a glock-bashing thread! I was just venting about the one dimensional advice some spat out. I have nothing against glocks, just not my thing. I have to admit though this has been entertaining!:D
Thanks to all who gave thier opinion on my new carry choices. That's the kind of advice that brought me to this forum, pros and cons, different options ect. Just for the record, I'm going with the 908. More practical for my needs and the price is right. If I buy both my wife will have me sleeping in the back yard. Might be worth it!;)
 
Check your socks, shoes, towels, jeans, shirts, cars, electronics, etc etc :)

towels ... guilty as charged, my cars are American as are my arms ... electronics, as many of them as I can build, thus .. American:D
Just for the record, I didn't mean to start a glock-bashing thread! I was just venting about the one dimensional advice some spat out. I have nothing against glocks, just not my thing. I have to admit though this has been entertaining!
Thanks to all who gave thier opinion on my new carry choices. That's the kind of advice that brought me to this forum, pros and cons, different options ect. Just for the record, I'm going with the 908. More practical for my needs and the price is right. If I buy both my wife will have me sleeping in the back yard. Might be worth it!
while I might be close to doing the same with the 1911, due to its history, photographed worst case scenario documentation was available to argue for steel over tupperware.
construction of an arm should also be taken into account, which was the bulk of my non glock argument.
Having played with a 17 along side a ruger auto, a 1911, a model 29 and another N frame snub in 45 LC. the Glock honestly ranked quite high for its overall function, I preferred the 1911 by a fair margin however.
the rankings went 29, 1911, 17, the 45LC with the Ruger dead last. if the 17 where cloned in a steel frame ... it'd fill my 9MM slot.
 
I will freely admit to owning other brand firearms, Glocks included. They work as designed and are durable. Personally I do not care for them but would buy more if the price is right.

As to LEA buying Glocks, they pretty much did so as the cheaper bids is the way most departments work. One area dept got the 9mm back 30 years ago for $189 each and then was given $100 for each of the S&W revolvers turned in. A few years later, the dept went to the .40 and they cost less then $250 each and there was a back room deal with one LEO to get the contract signed. It was and then the guy retired nicely. Now it looks as if the replacement guns will not be Glocks and may not be .40 caliber.

Notice how many Federal agencies are leaving Glock. Many depts are leaving them. I read an article last night that came across my desk saying that about 50% of the depts in the northeast have left Glock in the last five years. It may be they are now being under bid or the guns did not meet the current standards. I do know a local dept has experienced a lot of accidental discharges from Glocks inside the station.

But government works with the cheapest bid most of the time.

What are these departments replacing their Glocks with? Is there a trend?
Chris
 
I have owned three Glocks, a #17 pebble frame that I sold in short order, a #31 that I bought to play with the cartridge, and a #19 that I gave away. I am not so much of a fan of the pistol, but Glock in Smyrna, GA oozes customer service and I would buy another pistol just to have a reason to go back to the plant. I also own S&W, Beretta, Browning, Colt, H&K, Walther, Norinco, Sig, Kimber and Taurus handguns.

When I am asked for advice about a handgun purchase, I do my best to steer the buyer towards S&W. If a S&W simply will not fill their needs...I tell them how stupid they are and that they do not deserve or need a handgun. Seriously, I have taken non-shooters shooting and loaned a few guns out to people who were on the fence about what to buy. I have gotten people discounts on firearms and talked them into mutiple purchases.

BTW, some of you guys are paying way too much for used Glocks.
 
You boys have led sheltered lives. A brick is a fifth of "Wild Irish Rose" on any corner in Chicago.

Hey, you don't need to be from Chicago to know the fine virtues of that sweet nectar-of-the-gods...! Long live Richard's WIR. And also, long live Tylenol...
 
This somehow turned into a Glock bashing thread and now we're talking about fountain pens! :rolleyes:

The OP is disgusted with Glock "PUSHERS". Not the gun itself.

Glock is a fine gun. But if you want to bash Glock why not bash the company itself?

IMHO they have rested on their behinds while the rest of the gun makers caught AND surpassed them.

Then they woke up and made the Gen 4. And guess what? They are having problems with the new design!:rolleyes::D

As as far as the comparison between Glock and the 1911..... The legendary 100 year old gun's reputation speak for itself.:eek:

I don't hate Glocks. I've owned four and they're not for me. I just hate Glocknazi's. :mad:
 
"Glock, Glock"

"Who's there?"

"Donno"

"Donno who?"

"Donno if this thread is gonna last much longer." :D
 
What are these departments replacing their Glocks with? Is there a trend?
Chris

Smith M&Ps are stealing significant LE market share from Glock and HK because Smith is offering sweet replacement deals to departments. This may be the reason for all the LE trade-in Glock and HK pistols we're seeing these days.


Okie John
 
Isn't it interesting that when Glock is replaced as a carry weapon in a Dept. that it is most often replaced by a copy of a Glock.
 
Isn't it interesting that when Glock is replaced as a carry weapon in a Dept. that it is most often replaced by a copy of a Glock.

Hahaha.... ya.. whateva...... :) Wait a minute here.... I seem to remember someone saying something about the block, I mean glock not being anything like an M&P...
 
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Hickory Dickory Dock,
The mouse ran on the Glock.
The Glock struck one,
The mouse limped home!
Hickory Dickory Dock.:D
 
Most polymer guns do not lend themselves to "customization".

Glocks do lend themselves to customization, and they're actually easier to customize than most other handguns. That said, grip reduction/reshaping and better sights are usually all you need.

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Here's a G23 with Heine two-dot night sights. Robar has reduced the grip size, bringing the grip angle a bit closer to that of a 1911 and shortening the trigger reach slightly. They removed the finger grooves on the front strap and extended the backstrap below the magazine, then applied their medium texture finish to all modified surfaces to replace the checkering. Everything else is stock.

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This is G19 with three-dot Trijicon night sights. I relieved the trigger guard and cut the the finger grooves off of the front strap with a rasp. This took about ten minutes. No further work has been done, but it will go out for grip reduction soon and I may remove the hook from the front of the trigger guard. Everything else is stock.

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This 15-yard group is right at 1.5", or about the size of a human eye socket. I made it about three hours ago, using Winchester 147-grain factory ammo and the G19 shown above, which has had no accuracy work done. As with any firearm, the key to shooting the Glock well is mastering its trigger. Most gun people (including me) hate Glock triggers. It took me 1,000 rounds to learn the trigger, but now I shoot it decently. I also shoot my other guns better as a result of having learned the Glock trigger. No, it's not what we're used to, but it can be used well if you're willing to learn something new.

To shoot a standard Glock well, I have to align the center of the backstrap with my lifeline, which is not as secure as I'd like. It's OK for 9mm recoil, but it's uncomfortable with the 40. The reduced frame is more comfortable and easier to grip properly. The ideal combination is the G19 top end on the reduced frame. It's faster from a holster, it's accurate, and it functions 100%.

The plastic factory sights are horrible. They break easily, and I find the big dot and the rear outline make them hard to align while offering nothing in low light. (I train a lot at night—that's when most gunfights happen.) Midway sells steel Trijicon night sights for $85; they fix both of these problems.

So this is what I've learned in two months of Glock ownership. On the down side, they have all the soul of a staplegun, and that diminishes pride of ownership a LOT. I won't pollute anyone's tender ears by praising them beyond showing what I've learned. But I should point out that the unit once known as 1st Special Forces Operational Detachment-Delta now issues the G22 and G34, except to a few of their people who prefer the 1911. And it would be one-sided to ignore the fact that some regular Special Forces units issue the G19 to their people in Afghanistan. The people in these units are no-sh*t gunfighters who face fanatical opponents every day and win. They have their choice of weapons and they don't have a bunch of lawsuit-fearing lawyers forcing them to make unrealistic choices. We might all set aside our prejudices and note their choice of weapons. I did, and I'm glad.

Hope this helps,


Okie John
 
Wow~~~!!!!! ugly is not the word for that gun.... reminds me of Arnold Swartzeneager, sp.. in the Predator movie when the Pred. took it's mask off... what was that line... :D
 
okie john,thats one ugly gun.That said,I wouldn't want to be on the bad end of such an ugly piece of plastic.

I agree 100% with both. When I want beauty, I can always get a Model 29 out of the safe. And if a Glock gets damaged, I don't shed many tears. They can't get much uglier than they already are.


Okie John
 
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My favorite handguns will always be S&W revolvers. They're beautiful, well made, and the very essence of quality. That being said, I crossed over to the darkside last fall to purchase an unfired Glock 17 for a price that could not be turned down. It's ugly, the trigger is nothing like my revolvers, but the gun does shoot. First mag out, 1 1/2" groups at 25' - consistently same thereafter. Glocks are form following function with no regard to beauty.
 
I have a Glock 17 laying around somewhere.......I think I put 1 or 2 mags through it 2 years ago after I got it......

I have no love for them, they work, I carried a Glock 22 .40 when I was an armed guard years ago.....it was an accurate gun but I never fell in love with it.

I would never own a Glock in a caliber above 9mm.
 
Same kind of thing happens on the reloading forums. No matter what the topic, about five posts in some Dillon Disciple will start ranting about how great Dillon's "No B.S." warranty is and that whatever it is you have or are thinking about getting that isn't a Dillon ain't you know what. I've got nothing against Dillon, I just don't really care about somebody else's pathological obsession.
 
Glock's eh?

I have had 14 different Glocks and liked them all. They are a different animal than a Smith. I never had a problem with any of them, but my tastes have changed. My 10MM G-20 was a very nice handgun and very accurate. I sent it off to APW in Florida and had it Hard-chromed, including the 6" drop-in hunting barrel. Loved it for the woods, but my buddy begged for three years and got it. I won't bash the Glock, but I am on the S&W forum for a reason. Smiths are a very fine piece to shoot with....class, and style. JMO...Sprefix
 
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