gun modification and legalities

I know here in "The Kingdom of New York" you are screwed even if you are cleared by a grand jury because the family of the perp will no doubt be suing you for "wrongful death" because he was only trying to get money to pay for medical school tuition LOL.Having a firearm in anyway modified will be rammed down your throat.That being said if it were ever to happen I would be just happy to be alive because the other option is death....YOURS......God Bless.......Mike
 
Yeah, no doubt New York is one of the toughests states for gun ownership. Here in Virginia we enjoy a little less scrutiny when it comes to defending ourselves. A very close friend of mine killed a guy about 5 years ago in front of a house having a party. He was collecting money at the door when he was jumped by three perps needing tuition money :confused:. He was down on his back being kicked when he opened fire and wasn't arrested. The other two fled as thier friend bled to death on the sidewalk. I may put the spring back in, I do have really strong hands and no problem what so ever in shooting the gun accurately.
 
If a prosecutor is so inclined, the lighter trigger can be used to demonstrate a litany of negative images to a jury that won't contain one gun owner. So long as the trigger pull weight is still within the factory specifications and/or performed by the factory, this is defensible. Simply put, it adds additional issues you have to refute at trial.

Also bear in mind that while the burden of proof in a criminal crime is "beyond a reasonable doubt", the burden in a civil suit is pretty much 51%. Squeaking through the criminal trial only to lose you house and retirement savings isn't a victory.
 
Lawyers,,,, the world would be a much better place without them. That said! I will mod my firearms anyway I see fit. Living here in Oklahoma, our make my day law is very clear. You want to do me, my family, my neighbor harm. You die. Don't even mess with our property. Same result!

I knocked the teeth and the roof of a mouth out once with a dbl. barrel 12 ga. He ( the perp ) is lucky I didn't pull the trigger. Cops took my statement, checked to make sure the shotgun was not stolen, end of subject. He had a wheel gun clearly seen through his over coat pocket. Cops never found the coat or revolver after the indecent. But he had been in trouble for that before.

And yes the shotgun had been modded. It went from a smooth bore to a rifled bore. And yes it was accurate out to 100 yards and had dual sights on it. :)
 
Hello, s and w board. I would like to ask a few brief questions and point out a few things. I bought my girlfriend a 9SVE for her birthday. At the range we put a 100 rounds through it and she had problems with the trigger. Reason being she has Rheumatoid Arithitis and subsequently, very weak fingers. I removed the pigtail spring and now she said it is alot better. I've read the Virginia Laws and have found nothing that says I cannot remove a spring from a gun and it still be perfectly legal to carry. My question being, is there some hidden law somewhere prohibiting this kind of modification? Being her daily carry gun, I want to be informed on stipulations if she has to use it to defend herself. Common sense, would tell me if a removed spring would make someone with a preexisting condition shoot more acurately, then by all means it should be legal, and encouraged! However we all know how the government thinks they know whats best for us. Any comments would be greatly appreciated! What would you guys do?

Forget the legalities. That spring is there for a reason. I know some have removed it and say the trigger pull on the SGIMA is better. However, removal of that spring makes the gun SIGNIFICANTLY more prone to malfunction, according to S&W. You bought the wrong gun for a person with weak hands and fingers.

SIGMAs (or the current SW9VE or SW40VE) were DESIGNED to have triggers that were as close as possible to a full length pull and full weight pull of a double action revolver. While the S&W Service Center one of the posters mentioned can apparently improve the pull IN A SAFE MANNER (as opposed to removing needed parts), it is just not the correct gun for the needs of your girlfriend.

Our friend and occasional poster Massad Ayoob did a piece years ago on the proper semi-autos for those with such disabilities. Weak hand and finger strength present at least two separate issues. The first is trigger pull, and the second is manipulation of the operating controls, such as running the slide.

A single action trigger such as that on a 1911 certainly solves the trigger pull issue. A good, but safe, trigger pull on a 1911 is no more than 50% of the weight of the SIGMA trigger. Additionally, the weight of the 1911 absorbs lots of recoil. Plus, the gun is thin, which is important in handling if the shooter has small hands.

Those issues do not solve the manipulation issue, and also may not address her tolerance for pain from shooting, which is common with person suffering from arthritis.

If I recall correctly, Mas recommended that persons with weak hands and fingers look into the Beretta .380 that has the tilt up barrel. The chamber can be loaded without having to run the slide, and it can be cocked and fired from a single action position with a light trigger, and there is not much recoil from a .380. I am NOT talking about the current little .380 pocket pistol (Tomcat, I think they call that one), but instead am talking about a bigger pistol called the Beretta 86FS, which is larger, more along the size of the Beretta 84, 85 and 87.

The SIGMA is certainly inexpensive, but rarely are complex problems solved without some effort, and pulling out a spring that will increase the likelihood of a malfunction just to get a better pull on a weapon not designed for a light trigger pull is the wrong solution, in my opinion. On the other hand, she is your girlfriend. . . .
 
I don't know about all of that Shawn.

I cant figure out one good reason for the pigtail spring to be there. Polish up the sear and get rid of the darn thing. After 100 rounds through mine the pigtail was already chipping away at the plastic sear housing. I have also changed around on the sear springs. Freaking pistol is good now. 7 lb. pull is great! The 10 lb. plus and grit is horrid.

I have put WWB, Rem, Monarch FMG and JHP through mine with no issue. Has not missed a beat. :)

I will not change out the striker spring! I have played with the striker spring but never fired it with the Wolf spring in place. And I wont. It does make the trigger lighter even more. It's just to much and not worth a light strike.

The only problem with the Sigma is: Smith & Wesson did not finish it. The lawyers killed them on it. :)
 
I still think the Sigma is one of the best S/D Guns for the $$ it point shoots like a CHAMP ; ) Y/D
 
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