Gun safe question

[adam6979]

Dual Lock

The safe I just bought has the electronic lock with the standard mechanical. You punch in your code the move the mechanical to center position to lift the hook and open the safe. Now that I have practiced I get into it just as quick as just electronic. Contact Cannon and see if they will sell you the lock or google and see if another is available: Dual Access EMP Lock | Cannon Safe

On a side note I bought this safe over others specifically for this reason that you describe. However in a true SHTF/EOW scenario in the 1 in 1,000,000 chance an emp scrambles the lock any "residential security container" is easy to get into with an hour and a few tools of which your single gun provides the protection.... no matter what happens you'll never be "LOCKED" out of your guns unless you are not creative enough to open it by force.

I would personally avoid any safe that has a key backup as they are too easy to punch that lock and gain access.

 

[bhayles]

I do have some tinfoil left over after making my hat.

I understand that. My political YouTube channel is called The Tinfoil Hat Club.

 

[Golphin]

Au contraire

Besides being fond of guns, I am an Amature Radio Operator, AKA a Ham. We tend to pay attention to the threat of EMP's.

A manmade EMP, such as would occur if someone, say N Korea, exploded a nuclear warhead over the middle of North America, has never happened, obviously. That is not the sole source of EMP's however.

EMP's can, and have, erupted from the sun in the form of solar storms brought on by coronal mass ejections, some of which are aimed at earth. These sun caused EMP's can be tremendously powerful.

Through the melinnia there have been hunderds...thousands...of EMP's, some in the last 150 or so years. Fortunately they were long ewnough ago that there weren't any computers or other fancy electronics.


Solar storm of 1859 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Estimates are than such an event today would kill half the population of the United States and cost over $2 TRILLION to recover from.

Ant that's not counting anything N Korea might do if the sun doesn't.

Mr. Gore you always seem to be a step ahead of me. So if this is going to take us out, then why worry about "Global Warming"?.

 

[varmint243]

If you are really worried, build a little Faraday cage around the lock.
Faraday cage - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Kanewpadle]

It may be possible. Give me the brand and model. Pics of the front and back with cover removed would be better.

I would definitely switch to a traditional combination. I've seen too many problems with digital locks. Most of them are made in China.

Contrary to popular belief, gun safes are not meant for quick access. And there is a safe lock that prevents against EMP.

 

[SMSgt]

After many years of repairing electronics I have learned one thing: they fail when you most need them. No electronic locks for this guy.

 

[adwjc]

Not sure where to put this, hopefully it's in the right place.

I have a 27 gun safe (think that's what it is, around there at least) and it has an electronic lock. My question is, is it possible to change the electronic lock to a mechanical dial lock?

Swar,

why don't you consult a locksmith? Check feasibility and price w/ one call.

 

[gordon21]

Parts are about $200. You can install yourself or else pay for a locksmith to come do it. Make sure you order the correct size shaft on the new one. The best way would be to call the current lock manufacturer and have them tell you exactly what model you need to do the swap. If you stick with the same brand lock, that will eliminate mounting size and hole location issues.

You could probably sell the old electronic lock and recover at least $100 of your money.

 

[jj2am44]

I bought a safe 5 months ago and insisted on getting a mechanical lock. There are some safes out there with electronic locks that also have a key backup. I know Liberty is NOT one of them. If the thing fails, look to spend around $300 to open it. Why I opted for mechanical.

 

[chief38]

A gun safe shouldn't need quick access. Your home defense gun should not be inside a storage safe. I do not like the electronic locks and would not have one - too many ways to fail IMHO. When I purchased a safe I was given a choice - went with the good old tried and true S&G mechanical version.

 

[KLYDE]

I too opted for the S&G mechanical lock when I purchased my Cannon. About 10 years in I went to open it one day and you guessed it. Something malfunctioned in the lock. I had to call Boston Lock and Safe, (where I purchased it) and wait a week for the "safe cracker" to make a house call. Thank goodness my work gun was not in it. The gent had to drill out the safe (out of view under the dial), R&R the mechanism and replug the hole with a titanium plug. He said the plug is about drill proof so I hope it never goes south again. I'll be breaking out the blow torch.

 

[Kanewpadle]

I too opted for the S&G mechanical lock when I purchased my Cannon. About 10 years in I went to open it one day and you guessed it. Something malfunctioned in the lock. I had to call Boston Lock and Safe, (where I purchased it) and wait a week for the "safe cracker" to make a house call. Thank goodness my work gun was not in it. The gent had to drill out the safe (out of view under the dial), R&R the mechanism and replug the hole with a titanium plug. He said the plug is about drill proof so I hope it never goes south again. I'll be breaking out the blow torch.

Have it serviced at least every other year.

I've worked on safe locks over 80 years old that were taken care of and worked like they should.

 

[Big Cholla]

When I was in business as a Gunsmith, I was a Liberty Safe Dealer. OP, I say change out that electronic digital safe lock for the good old combination number/tumbler system even IF you have NO fear of 'emp'. As previously stated, the electronics are a failure waiting to happen. JMHO, YMMV ..............