Has anyone else had a problem with Smith & Wesson warranty???

B: Because buyers and sellers bump ads to create traffic, but I've yet to see a thread bumped solely to attempt to create comments. I was making a comparison.

C: Duly noted . . .

I am fairly new to this forum & have never participated in forums before.
Now I understand your comments.
I admit I wanted to see this thread keep going.
I will comment next time. I guess it is strange to bump it (but I thought that was the proper thing to do)
 
Well before this post does die I'll ask a more direct question to everyone. My question is what would you do in the case of your warranty return not being able to be repaired and your current firearm not being in production, would you settle for a gun that did not fit your hand properly, was of smaller caliber, and of lesser value? Keep in mind you have a stock of ammo in your current caliber, already own a holster, and misc accessories for said gun. What would you do?

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Well before this post does die I'll ask a more direct question to everyone. My question is what would you do in the case of your warranty return not being able to be repaired and your current firearm not being in production, would you settle for a gun that did not fit your hand properly, was of smaller caliber, and of lesser value? Keep in mind you have a stock of ammo in your current caliber, already own a holster, and misc accessories for said gun. What would you do?

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Great question,,, I would stick to your conscious & keep moving up the chain at S&W. That is what I had to do with my Performance Center issue.
 
Great question,,, I would stick to your conscious & keep moving up the chain at S&W. That is what I had to do with my Performance Center issue.
I have already talked to the service center manager and he said he is the top. I asked for his bosses name and extension. I got the name and he refused to give me the extension. Manager said he was the top of the chain. I get to plead my case again with him tomorrow.

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Update from S&W warranty manager today. For the m&p 45 with extra barrel kit (msrp $719) I will have to turn my current model 457 (msrp $689) in and pay $220 plus fees. Does anyone see a problem with s&w warranty REPLACEMENT policy here?

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I would ask them....

It seems that they can't replace what they don't have. If the damage is beyond normal wear and tear (which it sounds like it does) I'd ask them what deal they would make for a comparable gun, at least the same basic size frame and caliber. You will have to pitch in your part, because you've been shooting the gun for over 10 years.

I mean if I had a 1911 style gun that had to be replaced and I was asked to kick in value also, II wouldn't want a Shield. I'd want a 1911 style gun back even if it cost me something. That is unless you just happen to want what they offer, which doesn't sound palatable in this case.
 
the only problem I see is you keep thinking your gun is still worth "MSRP". It didnt sell new for that price nor is it worth that as a used gun.

If I go out and total my 10 year old car I certainly wouldnt expect the insurance company to give me what I paid for it.

If you want to be fair about it, go to gunbroker and see what a good used gun is going for and work from there. I imagine a new M&P sells for nearly the same amount as a used 457.

take the trade - sell it - buy another 457. It aint rocket science.
 
A few years back, I got a letter from S&W telling me my PPK/S was recalled. I followed all the instructions in the letter and never got the promised shipping label. I called twice and was told it was coming, it never did.

Last year I called because both of our Shields were acting up and wanted new RSAs. I was told none were available and they were no longer taking a backorder list.
 
Update from S&W warranty manager today. For the m&p 45 with extra barrel kit (msrp $719) I will have to turn my current model 457 (msrp $689) in and pay $220 plus fees. Does anyone see a problem with s&w warranty REPLACEMENT policy here?

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Seems fair to me. You're giving them an 11 year old gun and getting a brand new one for $220. You couldn't trade it for that at the LGS . . .
 
the only problem I see is you keep thinking your gun is still worth "MSRP". It didnt sell new for that price nor is it worth that as a used gun.

If I go out and total my 10 year old car I certainly wouldnt expect the insurance company to give me what I paid for it.

If you want to be fair about it, go to gunbroker and see what a good used gun is going for and work from there. I imagine a new M&P sells for nearly the same amount as a used 457.

take the trade - sell it - buy another 457. It aint rocket science.
If your car has a warranty for the rest of you life like the gun has a warranty for the rest of your life that would be an accurate assumption. However it's not, so this is fairly more complicated still not rocket science either. If s&w puts a warranty on a product for the rest of your life wouldn't you expect them to uphold that warranty not just a warranty of till they run out of parts? And the same and only part that has been replaced by the way. Maybe the problem wasn't even fixed the first 2 times I sent it back to have work done only the part that had obvious damage to it could have been replaced. The way I see it is they warranty a product of X amount of $. If it fails because of them using sub-par materials numerous times that is not my fault and they would replace it with parts that cost that same amount of $.

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Seems fair to me. You're giving them an 11 year old gun and getting a brand new one for $220. You couldn't trade it for that at the LGS . . .
But I'm not trading it in. I'm simply asking them to fix my gun. They can't because they don't carry the part any longer. S&W guns are supposed to have a warranty for the rest of your life not warranty ends when they decide to stop producing.

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It seems that they can't replace what they don't have. If the damage is beyond normal wear and tear (which it sounds like it does) I'd ask them what deal they would make for a comparable gun, at least the same basic size frame and caliber. You will have to pitch in your part, because you've been shooting the gun for over 10 years.

I mean if I had a 1911 style gun that had to be replaced and I was asked to kick in value also, II wouldn't want a Shield. I'd want a 1911 style gun back even if it cost me something. That is unless you just happen to want what they offer, which doesn't sound palatable in this case.
This is not normal wear and tear. The frame has been replaced 2 times previously with identical damage. Maybe they never corrected the original problem and simply replaced the part that had obvious damage. I was also told they have no gun that is comparable to mine. This is an obvious lie from the service department. S&W warranty states they warranty the firearm for the rest of one's life not just till they stop production.

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But I'm not trading it in. I'm simply asking them to fix my gun. They can't because they don't carry the part any longer. S&W guns are supposed to have a warranty for the rest of your life not warranty ends when they decide to stop producing.

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Well, they're not gonna replace my top break when it stops firing either . . .
 
Well, they're not gonna replace my top break when it stops firing either . . .
What's the warranty of your top break? Is it the same they implied on current firearms? Obviously it cannot be replaced but what if it had the same warranty and they decided to give you a revolver in the smallest caliber with the cheapest value?

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What's the warranty of your top break? Is it the same they implied on current firearms? Obviously it cannot be replaced but what if it had the same warranty and they decided to give you a revolver in the smallest caliber with the cheapest value?

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Losing battle, man. Take what they give you and run. You shot the thing after the last return for like nine years. Ask people with first, second and third generation semi's how they feel about this issue. It is what it is. Move on . . .
 
Losing battle, man. Take what they give you and run. You shot the thing after the last return for like nine years. Ask people with first, second and third generation semi's how they feel about this issue. It is what it is. Move on . . .
As I said in my earlier posts it has sat in my safe for the past 9 years. I finally decided to put a box of 100 rounds through it to see what would happen. This is what happened. I have not any battle. Why couldn't you answer my last couple questions? Is it that you are set in your ways and you must be correct. I don't think anyone will judge you if you change your mind on this because you have seen the light. If you don't want to be involved in this post please by all means go ahead and move on. There are many people on here who are at the bare minimum being educated on what the s&w warranty is. I'm OK with that.

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