Head Scratchin' 9mm Revolver Load Issue

[Cobbler]

Been away for a few days with overheating issues on a vehicle. Just got back from the range and tried a few things there, verdict is the Starline cases. The Winchester cases shot every 125g Missouri LSWC just fine with no issues at all. The Starline had issues throughout, with cases backing out and ejector sticking again even with faster burning BE powder and tighter neck tension. I have to apologize for some misinformation on bullet hardness and a dyslectic size posting, I'm glad some can read between the lines, thanks. I also load for .38 Special so I get the two crossed up at times.
I did use a Lyman M-Expander in my first loads from last week, so I didn't use it on today's loads thinking maybe it needed more bullet neck tension that some suggested, didn't seem to make a difference. Seems I can use Winchester cases with both bullets and be fine, or I can use Starline cases with just the X-Treme plated and be fine.
There is a lot of great information shared here with this issue and I can't thank you guys enough for the support and encouragement. I'll most likely call Starline in the next few days just to hear what they say. Seems to me their brass is geared towards the Auto market, and why not, that's where the money is.

 

[Cobbler]

I have a 986 and a 929 and I've come up with a couple of loads that work really well for me, I have settled on a 147 gr. TC coated bullet sized to .358 next I use a Lee U sizing die, then a Lyman M die to flair, add powder [ 4.1 gr. BE-86 or 3.6 gr. of Auto Comp ] seat the bullet to 1.125 and barley remove the flair then on the final stage I use a Lee 38 short colt roll crimp die. By using the above procedures I haven't had any more of the issues that you are talking about. I will on occasion let a "glock Buldged" piece of brass slip by and it won't just drop in the cylinder without a little help, that is when I will have trouble with extraction and have to bang the ejector rod, if I make sure that I don't use any of those type of brass everything is golden. I do shoot competition and run threw about 1500- 2000 rnds a month, that is what I have found that works for me. Also the bullet that I use is PC'd no grooves and the roll crimp works great with it. I also use the same bullet and loads when shooting my 627 using 38 short colts.

What is a "TC" coated bullet? I take it this .358" bullet is the Powder Coated (PC) with no grooves.
I talked with a gentleman at Starline brass today and he said he is aware of the problem their brass has being fired in a 9mm and the Titanium cylinder is raising their eyebrows, but "they just don't know". He also said some guys are shooting .38 Short Colt in their 9mm. Ever heard of that? I load a Short Colt for my 627, actually and Medium Colt because the case is cut to .900". That won't work in a 9mm, too long of a case. This is interesting.....

 

[tejano]

Yes, there are shooters using the short Colt in the 929. Head over to the revolver section of the Brian Enos forum and search for the information.

 

[MWC2068]

What is a "TC" coated bullet? I take it this .358" bullet is the Powder Coated (PC) with no grooves.
I talked with a gentleman at Starline brass today and he said he is aware of the problem their brass has being fired in a 9mm and the Titanium cylinder is raising their eyebrows, but "they just don't know". He also said some guys are shooting .38 Short Colt in their 9mm. Ever heard of that? I load a Short Colt for my 627, actually and Medium Colt because the case is cut to .900". That won't work in a 9mm, too long of a case. This is interesting.....

TC= truncated point, kind of tapered with a flat tip. also the 38 short colt brass is the same length as the 9mm, I just switch the decap/sizing die and the flare/expander die when I switch from 9mm to 38short colt I use the 9mm to seat the bullet and the 38 short colt roll crimp to crimp on either one. I'm using the the same powder load, same bullet size/weight and the same OAL for both. By the way my short colt brass is Starline, but I useFed, Rem, or other mixed range brass, once I've shot it in my Revo's , I keep it separate from my other bottom feeder brass.

 

[MWC2068]

What is a "TC" coated bullet? I take it this .358" bullet is the Powder Coated (PC) with no grooves.
I talked with a gentleman at Starline brass today and he said he is aware of the problem their brass has being fired in a 9mm and the Titanium cylinder is raising their eyebrows, but "they just don't know". He also said some guys are shooting .38 Short Colt in their 9mm. Ever heard of that? I load a Short Colt for my 627, actually and Medium Colt because the case is cut to .900". That won't work in a 9mm, too long of a case. This is interesting.....

I do know of some people shooting short colt in their 929's, they are shooting heavy bullets 150-160 with long OAL, when reloading for these, it' my understanding that everything on the top end [dies] are 9mm, and shell plates are 38 spcl. they are calling them a wildcat load a rimmed 9mm. This is something I'm going to have to try.