Home Defense Shotguns

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This is an early 2000's police trade in Mossberg M590A1 in 12 gauge. I bought it for a song a few months back. I've since done some modifications:

Magpul SGA tactical stock to get my preferred length of pull of 12.75"

Vickers 2-point sling

Esstac Velcro shotshell cards

CDM Gear MTR picatinny light mount and forward sling swivel

Surefire M300 Pro Mini Scout light

I have the gun loaded up with Federal Tactical Flite-Control 8-pellet reduced recoil which patterns beautifully and eliminates the 9th pellet flyer.

Overall, this is one tough little number and I sleep soundly with it near.

-Glenn
 
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Here are a couple of mine. The top one is an old A.H. Fox Sterlingworth. The bottom is a CZ coach gun built on a Greener action. Both in twelve gauge. While I do have a couple pump action shotguns with shorter defensive-type barrels, these two are much simpler for Miss Judy to operate if by chance I'm not home and their use is needed.

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I have always been curious about the thought processes for those who choose a shotgun for a home defense firearm.

Do you keep a shell loaded?

If you do not, then you will pump a shell in. When you pump a shell in it will make some noise, probably a fairly common sound, that will 1 – give away your approximate location, or 2 – scare the b-jesus out of the perp(s) and he/they will exit the premises at warp speed. There are always other scenarios.

The weight and size of a loaded Remington 870 Express Tactical at 8 to 9 lbs. doesn't seem very wieldy?
 
I have always been curious about the thought processes for those who choose a shotgun for a home defense firearm.

Do you keep a shell loaded?

If you do not, then you will pump a shell in. When you pump a shell in it will make some noise, probably a fairly common sound, that will 1 – give away your approximate location, or 2 – scare the b-jesus out of the perp(s) and he/they will exit the premises at warp speed. There are always other scenarios.

The weight and size of a loaded Remington 870 Express Tactical at 8 to 9 lbs. doesn't seem very wieldy?

My example is well balanced and handy. I don't have a scale but it is very maneuverable.
 
I have an 18" Maverick. Side saddle with 6 rds of 00buck. I leave it empty. I also have an 18" Mossberg 500. Butt cuff with 5rds of OObuck. Also empty till needed…….. neither is my primary home defense weapon.
 

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I have an 18" Maverick. Side saddle with 6 rds of 00buck. I leave it empty. I also have an 18" Mossberg 500. Butt cuff with 5rds of OObuck. Also empty till needed…….. neither is my primary home defense weapon.

Empty until needed…. What do you mean by that?
 
Old school home/ranch defense - Winchester 10 bore lever that stood guard over a ranch in Atascosa County TX for many years. It is backed up by a family slide action Winchester 12 gauge


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For a more modern take - A Winchester 1200 Stainless Police in 12 gauge. It's backed up by a Marlin in 41 Mag.

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Mossberg 590 Shockwave with magtube loaded with Federal Flightcontrol 8 pellet 00 Buck, Chamber empty with side saddle loaded with same. Hanging in a bandolier case from headboard. In a gun safe in the closet is a Rem. 870, magtube loaded with 6 Federal Flightcontrol 8 pellet 00 Buck and a Velcro card loaded with another 6 rds of same 00 Buck.
Neither have a round in the chamber due to most pump and semi-auto shotguns not being drop safe, even with the trigger blocking only safety on.
No one else in the house but me and my 2 cats so I have no problems keeping these loaded around the house when I'm home but they all are locked in safes whenever I leave the premises.


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Racking a pump gun is often cited as a warning measure, I leave it to those with more experience to comment.
 
I keep a Remington tac13 next to my nightstand in the corner by my bed with an Insight laser/light combo. Round chambered, tube full with 00 buck and safety on. No children to worry about and the wife won't bother it. She has her 342 in her nightstand drawer.IMG_8258.jpeg
 
I have always been curious about the thought processes for those who choose a shotgun for a home defense firearm.

Do you keep a shell loaded?

If you do not, then you will pump a shell in. When you pump a shell in it will make some noise, probably a fairly common sound, that will 1 – give away your approximate location, or 2 – scare the b-jesus out of the perp(s) and he/they will exit the premises at warp speed. There are always other scenarios.

The weight and size of a loaded Remington 870 Express Tactical at 8 to 9 lbs. doesn't seem very wieldy?


First off, I use a semi-auto Benelli M4, not a pump. Didn't grow up shooting pumps so I go with what I am used to.

I keep one in the chamber and a full mag, same as if I was pheasant or duck hunting.

I believe that if a need for a house gun were to arise, it would happen very quickly. In a stress situation, I don't need to be trying to rack in a shell.

Bad guy may or may not hear the safety.
 
Given that a shotgun is not usually being carried around "for home defense," it's usually stashed somewhere handy, I think most folks keep it stashed "cruiser ready." Tube full, chamber empty, safety off.
That's exactly how we keep ours. The hammers are down, so there's no fumbling with the slide release.

The Mrs shot a lot of skeet and trap with me, so a shotgun is second nature to her.

This photo was taken 5 years ago. The guns are still here, but Belle sadly passed.
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Scout has taken her place as our early warning system. ;)

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I have always been curious about the thought processes for those who choose a shotgun for a home defense firearm.

Do you keep a shell loaded?

If you do not, then you will pump a shell in. When you pump a shell in it will make some noise, probably a fairly common sound, that will 1 – give away your approximate location, or 2 – scare the b-jesus out of the perp(s) and he/they will exit the premises at warp speed. There are always other scenarios.

The weight and size of a loaded Remington 870 Express Tactical at 8 to 9 lbs. doesn't seem very wieldy?

I can only answer for myself. I have always kept my pump shotguns in condition #2. That's a full tube, empty chamber. My shotgun has been dry fired, safety off. As far as giving away my location, I'm not concerned. Whether it's a wayward moose, or an intruder I will be screaming non-pleasantries at the top of my lungs telling them to depart anyways. My shotgun isn't the sniff around the house gun. It is the barricade weapon or a weapon that is to be deployed when an active threat has been determined.

To my chagrin, the state that I currently qualify for states the sound of a racking shotgun and the size of the bore as an asset due to the tremendous level of intimidation. While I don't deny that factually, I think Officers should be trained that if that shotgun is racked, or pointed in, it is one hundred percent for the business of stopping, not an audio or visual deterrent.



Despite entering my fifties, I still don't find the shotgun to be particularly unwieldy. Maybe just because I'm used to it over the decades? In a professional capacity, I see officer's of all shapes and sized qualify with a shotgun to a reasonable level. To be fair, most of those shotguns had a 14" bbl., one shot extension, and a Knoxx recoiling adjustable stock. In a personal capacity, I know my wife and daughter have a difficult time managing my 870. My son is a big, strapping strong lad, and even he appears....awkward with my pump shotguns. Could be just an unfairly critical perception?

And the wisdom of lightening a shotgun comes into question as well. The lighter it gets the heavier the recoil. I do think they handle much better with a short tube, rather than a long tube. In one of the most interesting books on the defensive shotgun I've come across "Halloway's Raiders" it chronicles several years of the Houston PD with a stakeout squad assigned shotguns throughout a decade or more. The exact numbers escape me, but the greatest majority of hardened criminals were killed with a single shot. a small number required two shots. an excruciatingly small number required three. In any case, the juice may not always be worth the squeeze with the extended tubes. It's not so much the overall weight, but where the weight is hanging. Bearing in mind, this is very subjective.

My solution is that the shotgun is mine. My wife has a 9mm carbine on her side. My son's home defense weapon choice is insanely over the top. Too embarrassing to go into specifics, but he looks like a Balkan war criminal with it. I do reiterate to all family members who COULD end up using my shotgun it is a barricade weapon, and I'm sure they practice it's use. We try to resist the temptation of creeping around the house and shop, opening doors, managing dogs, using the other hand with a flashlight, etc. with a shotgun in hand. It is to remain in a secure room with family members and be utilized if an attacker crosses that threshold.

I hope that satisfies at least some modicum of curiosity. I'm a huge advocate of the shotgun and largely disagree with it's naysayers, but I'll pontificate more profoundly in those regards some other time.
 
I can only answer for myself. I have always kept my pump shotguns in condition #2. That's a full tube, empty chamber. My shotgun has been dry fired, safety off. As far as giving away my location, I'm not concerned. Whether it's a wayward moose, or an intruder I will be screaming non-pleasantries at the top of my lungs telling them to depart anyways. My shotgun isn't the sniff around the house gun. It is the barricade weapon or a weapon that is to be deployed when an active threat has been determined.

To my chagrin, the state that I currently qualify for states the sound of a racking shotgun and the size of the bore as an asset due to the tremendous level of intimidation. While I don't deny that factually, I think Officers should be trained that if that shotgun is racked, or pointed in, it is one hundred percent for the business of stopping, not an audio or visual deterrent.



Despite entering my fifties, I still don't find the shotgun to be particularly unwieldy. Maybe just because I'm used to it over the decades? In a professional capacity, I see officer's of all shapes and sized qualify with a shotgun to a reasonable level. To be fair, most of those shotguns had a 14" bbl., one shot extension, and a Knoxx recoiling adjustable stock. In a personal capacity, I know my wife and daughter have a difficult time managing my 870. My son is a big, strapping strong lad, and even he appears....awkward with my pump shotguns. Could be just an unfairly critical perception?

And the wisdom of lightening a shotgun comes into question as well. The lighter it gets the heavier the recoil. I do think they handle much better with a short tube, rather than a long tube. In one of the most interesting books on the defensive shotgun I've come across "Halloway's Raiders" it chronicles several years of the Houston PD with a stakeout squad assigned shotguns throughout a decade or more. The exact numbers escape me, but the greatest majority of hardened criminals were killed with a single shot. a small number required two shots. an excruciatingly small number required three. In any case, the juice may not always be worth the squeeze with the extended tubes. It's not so much the overall weight, but where the weight is hanging. Bearing in mind, this is very subjective.

My solution is that the shotgun is mine. My wife has a 9mm carbine on her side. My son's home defense weapon choice is insanely over the top. Too embarrassing to go into specifics, but he looks like a Balkan war criminal with it. I do reiterate to all family members who COULD end up using my shotgun it is a barricade weapon, and I'm sure they practice it's use. We try to resist the temptation of creeping around the house and shop, opening doors, managing dogs, using the other hand with a flashlight, etc. with a shotgun in hand. It is to remain in a secure room with family members and be utilized if an attacker crosses that threshold.

I hope that satisfies at least some modicum of curiosity. I'm a huge advocate of the shotgun and largely disagree with it's naysayers, but I'll pontificate more profoundly in those regards some other time.
"I can only answer for myself. I have always kept my pump shotguns in condition #2. That's a full tube, empty chamber."

Wow… That is exactly the kind of "thoughts" I was hoping to read about. Thank YOU.

I've been a gun owner since 1978 and only purchased for personal defense. With the crime rate seemingly getting worse, I've been thinking more seriously about adding a shotgun for home defense. It's just my wife and I – no kids, no pets.

Moving to a relatively small desert town, we envisioned a degree of lower crime. Our first year here, 19 years ago, I came home in the afternoon to 15 to 20 law enforcements officers crawling all over our neighborhood. When an officer approached me as I was getting out of my car, parked on the street in front of my house, and asked if he could check the inside of our house, I figured whoever they are looking for is one badass dude. They ended up in our backyard with a suspected armed robber on the cool deck. I was more than a little shocked. Since then, 3 times we've awakened in the middle of the night to a police helicopter hovering over our streets with spotlight searching. The last time at least a dozen border patrol and sheriffs going door to door. I'm not exaggerating!

Your experience with a shotgun makes sense. The idea of it being a "barricade weapon" rather than a "creeping around the house" weapon feels better in my imagination of a very bad scenario. At 77 I'm not the Rambo I was at 42, so right now I have 2 P365s, both with lasers 6 feet away from my bed. I would trade one of them for a Belgian Malinois.

My very close group of range buddies will meet next Saturday, and I will ask them their thoughts on a shotgun. I don't know for sure, but I'd bet they all have one.
 
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