House committee to propose AWB - Bill on Hold…

[Greyman50]

Gee, my post on “ compromise regarding sending “ certain individuals” to China or N Korea was humor, sorry if it offended anyone.
Mid terms will take care of much.

 

[Drm50]

House Assault Rifle Bill?

As usual you can’t find any truth in the Media. What is contained in bill that is supposed to have passed the house with Rep. help?
The news is referring to it as a Ban. They don’t go into the context of Ban. I can’t believe it’s going to make ownership illegal as they are inferring.
Of course any bill would have to go through Senate also. The Media like Facebook and You Tube have been sensationalized every shooting. They are now using gang related shootings to up the body count for optics. These deaths were ignored before.
I’m afraid they are going to get votes from Republicans who think they need it for re election.
I guess there is back to SCOTUS option.

 

[Maddog 521]

Ban--Registration--Confiscation--

 

[ladder13]

Don’t think the House has the votes yet

Here’s the Bill.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct...ll/1808/text&usg=AOvVaw1cnsJWIv540MgDogidrUtM

 

[Dieseltech56]

I read it as an outright ban to transfer, own and manufacture with a magazine restriction on top. It’s political suicide right before the midterms

 

[five 0]

I passed out of committee and now goes to the House floor.

 

[BB57]

My understanding is that the bill seeks to prohibit the sale, manufacture, transfer or import of:

- all semi-automatic rifles that can accept a detachable magazine and have a pistol grip; a forward grip; a folding, telescoping or detachable stock; a grenade launcher; a barrel shroud; or a threaded barrel; (basically the same “evil feature” language from the 1994 AWB).

- semi-automatic rifles with fixed magazines that can fit more than 10 rounds (this seems to be designed to close the fixed magazine loophole used in CA);

- bump-fire stocks (this seems to be in anticipation of Supreme Court ruling against the bump stock ban, or of greater concern, preventing the Supreme Court form ruling in that case, which would have domino effects in other ATF rulings);

- high-capacity feeding devices that can hold more than 10 rounds (I’m not sure how that’s defined but I’m guessing belt fed semi autos would be illegal); and

- semi-automatic shotguns with specific evil features features.

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The “ban” would not ban possession as they would allow a grandfather clause for existing weapons but I am not reassured by that.

The bill contains language requiring all future high capacity magazines be marked with manufacture date - sort of like the “Law Enforcement Only” provision of years past - to try to address enforcement of the ban on new high capacity magazines.

But enforcement will still be impossible. They’ll use it as justification to ban all private sales and require all transfers go through an FFL (rather than just mandating an NICS check).

But that won’t prevent under the table sales by existing owners, so they’ll use it as a justification for registration of all firearms and magazines subject to the ban.

Then of course they’ll use it as justification for ATF agents to make unannounced visits to verify that all applicable weapons in your possession are registered and that all of those weapons you have registered are in your possession.

It’ll also then open the door to requiring liability insurance, which is just back door gun control by way of making them prohibitively expensive to own.

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There is also the problem of those grandfathered firearms being non transferable and thus both losing all their monetary value, and then eventually having to be turned in for destruction when the owner dies.

Regardless of how it is sold to the public, it’s going to be “just the first step” in eventually confiscating and destroying all of them within a generation.

 

[BB57]

I read it as an outright ban to transfer, own and manufacture with a magazine restriction on top. It’s political suicide right before the midterms

It allows current owners a grandfather clause for possession, but per my post above that’s ultimately a distinction without a difference.

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I agree completely that’s it’s also political suicide before the mid terms.

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On NPR this afternoon a shark expert was addressing the shark attacks on the east coast and the media fueled fear mongering. He clearly stated the risk was incredibly low as sharks are around you anytime, you are in the water and virtually always leave you alone.

With around 20 million “assault rifles” in the US and only handful of deaths where an “assault rifle” was used - by one or two of the 10 million plus owners of “assault rifles” it’s exactly the same, situation.

And ironically another NPR segment had a guy talking about people “right to not be afraid their children would be shot in school”. Given the .093 per 100,000 rate for deaths in school shootings in the 2021-22 school year (and still only .269 per 100,000 of you count persons wounded), it’s clearly the same type of media field fear mongering.


Common sense and critical thinking are the truly endangered species in this country.

 

[Racer X]

It allows current owners a grandfather clause for possession, but per my post above that’s ultimately a distinction without a difference.

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I agree completely that’s it’s also political suicide before the mid terms.

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On NPR this afternoon a shark expert was addressing the shark attacks on the east coast and the media fueled fear mongering. He clearly stated the risk was incredibly low as sharks are around you anytime, you are in the water and virtually always leave you alone.

With around 20 million “assault rifles” in the US and only handful of deaths where an “assault rifle” was used - by one or two of the 10 million plus owners of “assault rifles” it’s exactly the same, situation.

And ironically another NPR segment had a guy talking about people “right to not be afraid their children would be shot in school”. Given the .093 per 100,000 rate for deaths in school shootings in the 2021-22 school year (and still only .269 per 100,000 of you count persons wounded), it’s clearly the same type of media field fear mongering.


Common sense and critical thinking are the truly endangered species in this country.

The death rate for peanut allergies is .43 per 100,000, and more than half are under 18. Mr Peanut is a mass murderer. Hang Him!

 

[cmj8591]

The bill was passed out of committee three days ago. It seems that some of the Dems who are facing a fight to get reelected are starting to vacillate now so it might not even come up for a vote on the House floor. Keep calling even if your rep is a die hard anti gunner.

 

[g-dad]

Pelosi's AWB on hold for now

Just an FYI

BLOCKED: Pelosi Pulls ’Assault Weapons’ Ban! - Minnesota Gun Rights

 

[m&p2.0fdethumbsafety]

they didn't have enough democrats on board for it to go through. back to the drawing board for them.

 

[54ball]

It's back up, they made a deal with the black caucus over police funding.

 

[Racer X]

It's back up, they made a deal with the black caucus over police funding.

I just got an e-mail blast from FPC or GOA about it.

 

[Beemerguy53]

In every election year, the two major parties raise money using the legislative process.

One party will introduce some bill, and then send out fundraising letters to their registered voters explaining how they're fighting for this-or-that cause, and if you do your part to keep them in office, you'll win. The other party will send out fundraising letters to their voters citing the same legislation, and warning that the sky is about to fall if that bill is passed, so please send them money to fight against it. It's how the game is played...

The last time Congress passed an Assault Weapons Ban, the House changed hands in the next mid-term election, and neither party has forgotten that. This bill is all for show, I think, and it isn't going anywhere. JMO...

 

[Bozz10mm]

Pelosi is holding it back until right after the next tragedy.

 

[fordson]

If only Congress would put this much effort into addressing the real issues, we might actually see progress. Oh, if only …… One can dream………

 

[steelslaver]

In every election year, the two major parties raise money using the legislative process.

One party will introduce some bill, and then send out fundraising letters to their registered voters explaining how they're fighting for this-or-that cause, and if you do your part to keep them in office, you'll win. The other party will send out fundraising letters to their voters citing the same legislation, and warning that the sky is about to fall if that bill is passed, so please send them money to fight against it. It's how the game is played...

The last time Congress passed an Assault Weapons Ban, the House changed hands in the next mid-term election, and neither party has forgotten that. This bill is all for show, I think, and it isn't going anywhere. JMO...

It is also possible they all bought stocks in gun manufactures proceeding the introduction of the announcement of the bill

 

[Beemerguy53]

It is also possible they all bought stocks in gun manufactures proceeding the introduction of the announcement of the bill

Yeah, I saw that news story last night about the Covid vaccine and how so many of them profited off of the information they received...disgusting, isn't it?

The level of hypocrisy on both sides of the aisle is just sickening...it's one of the main reasons why I am an independent voter.

 

[minconrevo]

News media is reporting a somewhat watered down version of AWB 22 passed the House today, 217-213.