How many firearms allowed for self defence

[Texas1941]

You guys are so lucky over there. Things are way different here when it comes to firearms. And with our new firearm law where you have to re-apply for your licence most people handed in their guns to be destroyed. When you apply for a licence or permit can you guys get denied for that licence if they feel your reason to wanting it isn't good enough?

As you can probably tell by the responses you've received, carrying weapons in the US is largely regulated by the states. There are big differences between Texas and say New York.

I can't speak for the other states, but in Texas why you carry a handgun is your business. You do not have to give a reason. Looking at the restrictions you have mentioned in SA makes my blood run cold.

Charles

 

[Big Foot]

In NM, only 1 CC at a time, no B.U.G....Ownership? As many as you want.....

 

[jtpur]

There are lunatics in this country that want to limit the number of handguns one can buy monthly. I believe NJ has such a restriction but in the rest of the un-occupied Free States, one can own as many as one can purchase, as one poster said, limited only buy the amount of funds available. Here in Texas it has been said that each man and woman will admit to at least ten guns, but that is probably not accurate at all. I hold concealed carry license in several states which allows me to carry in a total of 38, of our 50, but since I am a retired LEO and maintain my currency according to Federal Law I am supposed to be allowed to carry in all States...I have been told that NY, Illinois and Wisconsin won't honor the Federal law but I haven't confirmed that nor put it to a test....as soon as governments ban guns or limit them, its citizens are in danger of a totalitarian government....Liberty is the government fearing its citizens, Tyranny is the citizen fearing the government and we are well on our way to the latter here in the good ole' USA.....my humble opinion anyway...

 

[deralte]

North Carolina here and no restrictions on how many you own or carry. You have no questions re why you want a concealed carry permit on your application.

 

[cmort666]

In Ohio:

CHLs are "shall issue". If you meet the qualifications and pass the background check, you get one. You don't need a reason.

You can carry any handgun you want and as many of them as you want, openly or concealed. You don't need any license to open carry.

You can carry a loaded handgun in a vehicle ONLY with a CHL (or recognized equivalent).

 

[perrazi]

have south african gun laws changed in the last 20 or so years? i don't recall that there was a problem owning more that 1 type of gun at a time.

 

[Harrison]

In Texas if you shoot your qualification test with a revolver that is all you can carry concealed. Use a semi-auto and you can carry either. Must go through classes, take a written and shooting test to get a concealed carry permit. You can own as many firearms, and ammo for them, as you can afford. The only exception is full auto weapons, sawed off shothguns, and dangerous devices such as grenade launchers, morters etc. Then you have to deal with the feds and jump through hoops.

 

[The Highlander]

In the State of Tennessee, we don't have a concealed carry permit. We have a Handgun Carry Permit. The distinction is that the weapon(s) may be either concealed or open carried. There are restrictions against carrying any weapon in certain places such as court offices, federal buildings, and some others.

There are no requirements to carry a certain type of pistol or revolver, or caliber, or how many you may carry at one time. As someone has said, you may own as many as your wife will let you, and carry all of them if you are able.

There are some local restrictions as well. Cities may "opt out" of allowing weapons in certain parks for instance. The decision on whether or not to do that has been very acrimonious to say the least, many cities ban carry, many more do not.

The Highlander

 

[SuperMan]

SA is soooo beautiful!!!

Waldo,

It was my good fortune to have a month long visit to your country in August 2001, just before the World Trade Center attack took place...it is a stunning place. Much of the terrain looks very much like south central Texas...

In the time I was there the friend I was visiting took me on a driving tour of most of the country, Joburg, Durban, Cape Town, Kimberly...thousands of miles in a month. The only area I didn't get to see was the northeast where Kruger National Park is...maybe one day I'll make it back.

If there is anywhere on earth that there should be CC Permits issued it is SA. CarJacking is one of the major national sports it seems. Armor car robberies (know as cash in transit robberies) occur daily often with deadly results. Home invasions....and a lot more.

When I was there getting a CC permit was fairly simple. It was MUCH harder to buy a rifle, even a bolt action, than a handgun. I believe I was told it was up to just before I arrived it illegal to defend oneself with a shotgun...

I have lost touch with my friend but at the time he owned a very large security officers school in Durban. His school graduated ...are you ready for this....3000+ security officers a year...and there were 8 schools in the area at that time... The graduates were everything from unarmed parking lot guards to personal body guards. Anyone in any kind of security work had to have a certificate from a school to apply for a job....and there was LOTS of work.

The last I spoke to him he said things were changing... The government would just not respond when someone tried to renew their CC license. I am not sure how this effected professionals like Cash-In-Transit drivers who work for companies, but for your average citizen it meant not carrying or carrying illegally....

As to your question, here in New Hampshire, we are a "shall issue" state and the permit "SHALL" be issued in two weeks or an explanation of why has to be sent to the applicant. You can own and carry as many guns as you can afford...

In Massachusetts, CC Permits are issued by the Chief of Police and if he doesn't want to or just give them to his friends he has that right...

I wish you and your beautiful country luck...I am afraid we here in the USA may need some also in the not so distant future...

Bob

 

[BFBoy]

As many as I can carry and conceal.

 

[GLV]

Arizona restriction

We don't have to catagorize firearms to different tasks the way that you apparently have to do there in South Africa. In some states you have to list the firearms you might carry on the permit, or are limited to having just one firearm on your person (Arizona has that restriction, for example)however Kansas isn't one of them and, with a CCH permit you may carry concealed on your person however many handguns you feel like.

Was not aware of that restriction in AZ, and have been an AZ instructor for some years. Is it new or did I just miss it?

 

[Waldo R]

have south african gun laws changed in the last 20 or so years? i don't recall that there was a problem owning more that 1 type of gun at a time.

If i recall correctly the new law came into effect round 2005. Basically stating that you only allowed one firearm for self defense. Reading between the lines, the bottom line here was to disarm the majority of legal liecensed gun owners and the goverment succeeded in that. Only problem was that thousands of these firearms that were handed in made it's way back onto the streets and unfortunatly into the hands of criminals. Allots changed in the last 20 years. Sadly not for the better!

 

[USAF385]

In my county in Pennsylvania, it took me about 20 minutes to get my license to carry firearms. I walked into my sheriff's office, filled out the application, waited for them to call in for my background check, paid $25 and walked out with my license. I can carry as many handguns as I want. Normally two. There's no limit on the amount gun you can own.

Now in PA open carry is legal because we have no law saying it is NOT legal. We can open carry at 18 with no license. I won't get on the topic of PA open carry though...

 

[Tom K]

In Oklahoma there's an 8-hour course to go through, which mainly consists of the instructors talking about when (and more when NOT) to use your firearm. There's a 50-round shooting segment, but it's pretty rudimentary - 25 at 5 yards and 25 at 7 yards, with no scoring as such. Just put holes in the paper.

There aren't any restrictions on how many you can carry. I guess as long as you don't clank when you walk you're okay. Maximum caliber is .45 but there are no stated power restrictions, so no .500 S&W but presumably the .460 S&W is legal (if not practical).

 

[Andy Griffith]

Although in most states that do issue concealed carry permits, it is perfectly legal to carry as many as you want to so long as they are concealed.

However, carrying more than one heavy sidearm could lead to drowning if you fall into a body of standing water.

At least, I read about Gen. George Patton stating something to that effect.

There used to be an advertisement on the Outdoor Channel for Winchester Safes where they brought in some old cowboy who must have has 30 or 40 guns hidden on him and he filled up the safe!

Anyone else remember that advertisement?

 

[Waldo R]

For a new application you do two theory tests and one practical. Takes you about a day depending where you do it. Costs about R1000 and then you wait the long wait. Two years on avarage and we can only carry concealed.

 

[7shooter]

In MN you can own and carry as many guns as you want. One of the carry permit instructors I teach with does a demonstration for the students where he supposedly is discussing selection of a gun that will fit their hand but in reality is showing how many places a gun can be concealed on his person. He is a big guy and the students catch on when he gets into the high teens. He does wear both suspenders and a belt for that class.

 

[SuperMan]

For a new application you do two theory tests and one practical. Takes you about a day depending where you do it. Costs about R1000 and then you wait the long wait. Two years on avarage and we can only carry concealed.

I also found it very interesting that when one CC is SA one MUST use a holster...the theory being old criminals don't use holsters... They really are not far from wrong.. When I was a LEO I can not remember a "real" badguy with a gun who had it in holster....

Bob

 

[clubleaf206]

Was not aware of that restriction in AZ, and have been an AZ instructor for some years. Is it new or did I just miss it?

Nope, brain hiccup on my part, I meant to type New Mexico. Not quite sure how my brain turned that into Arizona. Both states are in the desert southwest, that's my excuse and I'm sticking to it!





And now, I'll go back and correct my original post. Just color me embarrassed.

 

[pawncop]

Sorry to hear of your restrictions in your country.

Fortunately, in Texas, liberty is cherished.

May you find liberty, either in your country or in ours.