How Many MPH Over the Speed Limit?

I watched this thread with amusement since it started. I've retired 20 years ago, but had to meet the non-existent quota our agency didn't have of 100 tickets a month until hitting management rank. Traffic enforcement is mostly about trying to maintain smooth and safe traffic flow. Secondarily, traffic enforcement is a great way to find wanted persons, stolen property, drugs, contraband, missing persons, drunks, and generally do what the public expects to be done. Officers who get fixated on the traffic citation aspect of policing are missing the forest because of the trees, IMO.
 
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Depends on the road.
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Arterials in the 30-50 mph ranges I'll keep it to a max of 5 mph over

Can you distribute that thought to many here in Vegas? We have a lot of big surface streets with three lanes each way that some think is still the freeway or interstate.:mad:
 
Can remember being on the I-5 in an LASO Cruiser doing 75-80 mph and cars passing us................ I was riding shotgun and not in the back seat.
 
Why is it that every time the speed limit is raised to accommodate those who want to go faster, everyone then wants to know how much faster can we go now? The speed limit, that's what it is. Follow it and be happy or there is no limit, ever. Warp factor five, Scottie.-
 
I know a lot of people say higher speeds waste gas. Well that is not a 100% true, it depends on what you are driving. My last 4 Vettes were some of the best gas mileage cars I ever owned.

We did a bunch of driving visiting relatives and hitting large car shows for many years and I proved out that speeds up to 80 the mileage was just as good there than the lower speed limit. The aerodynamics of the car allowed that. Of course if your driving a box car your putting a lot of gas through your engine:eek:!

I cleaned out my desk and lost a bunch of paper I had, but remember getting close to 30MPH on a long trip with my 98 Vette and getting better than 25 with 3 more Vettes even one being a 427CI 505HP 07 Z06.

So its not always a higher speed uses more gas, its what you are driving and how your driving it.(not talking legal here):D

It’s more than just clean aerodynamics, it’s also about how the car is geared and the manifold pressure versus rpm.

It’s more obvious in aviation. Most everyone knows who Charles Lindbergh is and that he was the first person to fly solo across the Atlantic. Fewer people know that he pioneered and surveyed long distance routes to South America and across the Pacific for Pan American and that during WWII he served in the Pacific as a technical rep with USAAF squadrons flying P-38s and USN and USMC squadrons flying F4U Corsairs.

At the time the conventional wisdom was that operating an aircraft engine with high manifold pressure and low rpm would damage the valves. Lindbergh demonstrated that was not the case and the much greater fuel efficiency that resulted at those low rpm, high manifold power settings allowed for greatly increased range. When USAAF P-38s shot down the G4M Betty carrying Admiral Yamamoto, it was made possible by Lindbergh’s range extension techniques.

Fast forward to today and “over square” engine operation in general aviation piston engines is still a often incorrectly viewed as being harmful to the engine. Pilots will use a higher power setting that involves higher rpm and low manifold pressures. They’ll use a square power setting such as 2500 rpm and 25” of manifold pressure, or an under square setting such as 2400 rpm and 24” of manifold pressure, but many pilots won’t use an over square power setting like 25” of manifold pressure and 2200 rpm.

That’s unfortunate as fuel economy is better at the over square setting. For example you can operate a 235 hp Lycoming O-540 at a maximum under square 65% power cruise setting of 21” MP and 2575 rpm at sea level. If you do that you’ll burn 13.8 gallons per hour. You can also operate it at the same 65% power and get the same cruise speed at a maximum over square power setting of 25” MP and 1875 rpm. If you do that you’ll burn 12.1 gallons per hour. That’s a 13% reduction in fuel burn. Plus the propeller tip speeds are lower and it’s quieter. You also put fewer tach hours on the engine. In car terms you are using a higher “gear” to use lower engine rpms and higher manifold pressures to get better fuel economy.

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In a car it works more or less the same way, except you don’t have quite as much control over the gear ratio and resulting manifold pressure.

Still, in my Tacoma I can drive 75 mph and do it in either 4th gear with a 1.0:1 ratio or in 5th gear with an overdrive .72:1 ratio. At the same speed, I burn a lot less fuel with the lower rpm and higher MP that comes with the over drive gear ratio.

If I buy a new Tacoma it has a 6 speed transmission with .69:1 and .58:1 over drive gears that give even more efficient operation at highway speeds.

The effect is ore pronounced with corvettes and the combination of low drag, 6 speed transmissions and taller gearing to allow for higher top speeds, low engine rpm, and efficient high manifold pressures at 80 mph cruising speeds are possible.
 
Sometimes the road is straight and dry.
The only man made object I can see is the Road.
No traffic .
That’s when I speed up.
And that’s what I was doing when I almost hit that Elk that jumped into the road.
I love to run the backroads in NM and I haven’t done it enough lately.
It’s not always Elk. Last week a couple of Antelope ran across the road in front of me.
Then they stopped out in a big pasture, Nini Nini Nini Nini.
I hate it when they do that!

Down here vehicles kill more deer than hunters. I take them home and skin them if they're fresh.
 
Where I live we have very windy gravel roads with a large deer population so I very seldom get up to the 55mph speed limit. When I go to the mainland and get on paved roads with traffic lights it takes me a couple of hours to adapt.... combine that with being an old geezer and you'll generally find me in the right lane going the speed limit, white knuckling the steering wheel feeling like my hairs on fire. Now days I'd much rather stay home and drive my golf cart with a dog or two riding shotgun.
 
In general I go with the traffic. On most highways that is 10 over. I-294 around Chicago you can be 15 - 20 over and still have plenty of traffic faster than you. In town I stick a lot closer to the limit.

I'm neither that guy weaving in and out, cutting eveyone off, nor am I that guy who thinks he is entitled to enforce his own speed limit by being a rolling roadblock.
 
I just try to keep in mind what a Texas Highway Patrolman told me when I first got my drivers license back in the Stone Age," give 5, take 6.
 
I usually go 5-8 over with CDL a ticket 10 mph over can be fired with even if it's in my own vehicle. The Freightliner I drive is governed 62mph and 65 on cruise.

15 over will get me fired.

The 2020 Volvo I drive is governed at 67. I hate it.
 
Friday the wife and I went to Billings the largest city in the state. 260 miles round trip. I have 2 Lincoln Town cars and run about 75 on 2 lane roads where the speed limit is 70mph and occasionally to catch and pass a semi in a good spot I might hit around 85 or 90. Saturday we went to Great Falls the 3rd largest city and that is a 220 mile round trip on 2 lane. Same speeds. Total of about 480 miles of highway. Saw no law enforcement. They will not stop you at 75 anyway and I have received a few warnings for a bit over 80 mph. between 75-80 they might hit the light bar for a few seconds to say slow it down.

Back in the day I had a 68 Camaro, then a 75 Trans AM both with built motors. I have never went much over 160mph on a 2 lane road. Montana never had an actual speed limit (safe and prudent) until the 55 thing. As you left a town there was always a sign that said end of speed zone! My dear old mom and grandma both drove 85-90 on 2 lane as there was hardly any 4 lane then. When the 55 thing came it was called failure to preserve a natural resource and the fine was $5 pay on the spot and no points on your driving record. After the 55 thing went away it was back to no limit or safe and prudent, until some out of state guy in a Porshe got a ticket for failure to drive in a safe and prudent manner for something like 135mph on 4 lane. He took it to court instead of paying his $50 ticket and beat it as an ambiguous law. Next session state legislators passed a real speed limit.
 
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Here in New York I usually drive 10 MPH over any speed limit posted as 55 or higher. On the Long Island Expressway, Most people are driving around 70-75 in a 55 mph zone, but with 8 lanes, the 55 is overly conservative and the Police usually will not stop and ticket until you are over 80 or driving erratically. Below 55 mph zones I usually do 5 over except in villages where the speed limit is 20 where I will stick to under 25. But in a school zone with 20 posted I usually do 19.

My GPS usually matches up with the radar speed signs, but my speedometer in my main car reads 1 MPH high.

In addition to having to pay a fine for a ticket here, there is a State Fine that works like this:

Get one 3 point violation and you get the local fine. Most moving violations here are 3 points.
Get a second 3 point violation and you get the local fine and in the mail comes a $300 state fine.
Get a third 3 point violation and you get the local fine and in the mail comes a state fine of $500.00
Get another 3 point violation (all of these within 3 years) and you are looking at a suspension plus the local fine.

In New York more than 20 MPH over the posted speed limit and you get 6 points instead of 3, so the first one will get you a $300 state fine and the local fine will be much higher usually too.

Bob
 
It was fun to drive our Audi at maximum speed, but then we realized that 2 years before we were driving a VW, cussing those people that flew by us, so my wife and I slowed down. As someone posted if your late, you should of left earlier!!
 
I didn't read all of the previous posts.

It varies by state and to a lesser degree locality. In FL, in most cases, anything under 10mph over the posted limit is generally safe on the highway. On residential streets and school zones that doesn't apply and the 5mph would be a better guide. Always drive defensively and make the safety of yourself and others the priority.

Most, if not all speedometers are optimistic up to 10%. You should try to check that with GPS or radar so you'll actually know. Motorcycles seem to generally be more optimistic that passenger cars.
 
Btw around town I drive right at the speed limit. But, then at 25 mph I can get anywhere in town in less than 10 minutes even if I do hit one of our 4 traffic lights red.

My next door neighbor is the county Justice of the Peace. I ended up behind him on the highway once but, i couldn't keep up. LOL. He also doesn't stop at the stop sign around the corner, a fact I will remind him of if I ever get a ticket for not doing a full stop there. Most likely he will still make me pay. I plow his driveway in the winter too..
 
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