How Will Ammo And Prices Now Be Affected

[flintsghost]

I don't quite understand why everyone is blaming the lack of ammo availability on the political climate. Did everyone forget the pandemic. A lot of the manufacturers had to shut down due to the pandemic. Ammo was considered an essential service. Most are back to work at least with skeleton crews and ammo and components will become more readily available. Just because Midway is out of Speer bullets doesn't mean you can't get them directly from Speer. It means midway has not ordered any for a while because they are working short handed too. Even SGA when they have some says it takes days to get stuff out now where it used to go out the same day. No need to be a doomsayer. It's the Pandemic not the politics.

 

[docjonson]

Ammunition tax in Chicago

LoboGunLeather

IS RIGHT ON THE MONEY.

IT WILL BE A NEW REVENUE STREAM FOR THE GOVERNMENT. THERE IS ALREADY A AMMUNITION TAX IN COOK COUNTY (CHICAGO) IL. 1 PENNY PER ROUND OF RIMFIRE, A NICKEL PER ROUND ON CENTERFIRE. RAISED IN THE NAME OF PAYING FOR THE SHOOTING VICTIMS MEDICAL EXPENSES.

IN GERMANY YOU MUST HAVE A RELOADING LICENSE AND ARE LIMITED TO 1 POUND OF POWDER AND 1K PRIMERS PER YEAR. THAT INFO CAME FROM A FRIEND OF MINE ON THE GERMAN NATIONAL POLICE TEAM.

BE AWARE, BE VERY AWARE

I think the tax on ammo in Chicago is more like an "amusement tax" since it is apparently a " sport" to shoot guns in Chicago.

 

[BC38]

LoboGunLeather

IS RIGHT ON THE MONEY.

IT WILL BE A NEW REVENUE STREAM FOR THE GOVERNMENT. THERE IS ALREADY A AMMUNITION TAX IN COOK COUNTY (CHICAGO) IL. 1 PENNY PER ROUND OF RIMFIRE, A NICKEL PER ROUND ON CENTERFIRE. RAISED IN THE NAME OF PAYING FOR THE SHOOTING VICTIMS MEDICAL EXPENSES.

The leftys implemented the same thing in King County WA (where Seattle is located) a few years ago. The first year it existed the new tax actually generated less revenue than the regular old sales tax on ammo the previous year.

How's that? Simple: Everybody started going OUTSIDE King County to buy ammo! IIRC that one got repealed toot sweet!

 

[Racer X]

One thing we can't ignore are the millions of more gun owners this year. Now, most aren't going to become regular shooters, but some will.

And living in Seattle, I witnessed the gun stores move outside city limits. It was Seattle, not King County. But that might have been the goal in the first place.

 

[TTSH]

When I was working for the Yankee Gov't, we once got a two hour inservice with PowerPoint, a notetaking guide, and a quick reference sheet on the difference between "affect" and "effect." I began using "impact" instead.

Funny, isn't it? In my many years of writing legal, technical and financial reports, I was absolutely forbidden to use the word "impact" unless it was in regard to the action of one object coming forcibly into contact with another.

Different strokes for different folks.

 

[Telecaster]

I lived in Missouri for three years, so I'd like someone to "show me" evidence that ammo manufacturers slowed down or stopped because of Covid. It's a theory, but what's the evidence supporting it?

 

[Eddie Southgate]

I'm good regardless of how things play out . Do I need anything I don't have ? Not really , I would like to have 500 new Winchester 25-20 cases and a couple more powders that are not currently available but I will get them eventually . This is just the same old waiting game as every one before , nothing new or different . Be prepared and you don't have to worry when it gets like this again , and it will .

 

[Muss Muggins]

Forbes explains the issue fairly well . . .

Gun Stores Are Selling Out Of Bullets As Covid-19 Disrupts Ammo Imports

I lived in Missouri for three years, so I'd like someone to "show me" evidence that ammo manufacturers slowed down or stopped because of Covid. It's a theory, but what's the evidence supporting it?

 

[Browns fan]

Today at a NE Ohio gun show .357 1– 1.25 a round 9mm was averaging 30.00/50

 

[6GUNSONLY]

I'm truly sorry for those new to gun ownership, that they "got in" during this drought. Nature of the beast, I guess. I probably have enough ammo and components to make more to last out my days. Have thought about liquidating some of the surplus (components, mostly) but I couldn't replace it for what I could sell it for. Would rather do some trading at the local level. For instance I have ~15k of large pistol magnum primers, bought several years ago... and I don't use magnum caps for any of my loads. Maybe I could post a "for trade" ad at my local range.

 

[rockquarry]

You can "what if" forever, but the paranoiacs will do their best to keep ammo, components and guns in short supply for normal folks for a long time.

 

[mscampbell2734]

I'm truly sorry for those new to gun ownership, that they "got in" during this drought. Nature of the beast, I guess. I probably have enough ammo and components for more to last out my days. Have thought about liquidating some of the surplus (components, mostly) but I couldn't replace it for what I sold it for. Would rather do some reading at the local level. For instance I have ~15k of large pistol magnum primers, bought several years ago... and I don't use magnum caps for any of my loads. Maybe I could post a "for trade" ad at my local range.

I don't feel sorry for them. The vast majority of them never supported the 2nd Amendment. Most are liberals who live in cities that are burning down. The only reason they bought guns was because they got spooked by the smell of their own city hall burning down.

Some were so stupid, here in California, they got upset when they had to wait to take home their new purchase. They actually believed the total media lie that people could just walk into a store with cash and walk out with a gun,

 

[Telecaster]

Forbes explains the issue fairly well . . .

Gun Stores Are Selling Out Of Bullets As Covid-19 Disrupts Ammo Imports

Interesting - what ammo do we import from Canada? The UK? or Israel? Or are those where companies like S&B, Prvi Partisan, Wolf, Tula, and Monarch ship from?

The top foreign suppliers of ammo to the U.S. are from Canada with 20.2% of market share, followed by Europe (particularly Germany and the United Kingdom) with 13.5%, and then Israel with 12.1%, according to Rogers.

 

[max503]

I cleaned out all the 22 ammo at my local Walmart this morning. I was going to buy one box of the CB's but the kid behind the counter asked if I wanted all that was left so I said "sure". The two boxes of WW were tucked behind some other stuff and we almost missed them.

 

[smoothshooter]

Ammunition may never, ever be coming back. The death days of the west everyone talked about may have already started last year. The good days are gone, and the worst is yet ahead. This is the means of arms control the new wave is bringing; keep your gun, but no more ammunition.

Between real shortages, "shortages", taxes on ammunition, environmental restrictions, the ease which the system can threaten the handful of owners of corporations. The shooting sports are already probably dead, and we're just realizing it.

I believe you have just nailed it.

 

[ancient-one]

I am afraid that in the next few years we will see laws passed that will greatly reduce the availability of guns, ammo and reloading components. If not laws, lawsuits against the manufacturers are another means to accomplish objectives. I hope that I am wrong.

 

[MyDads38]

I never thought that I would be afraid of losing my guns, or my 2nd Amendment rights. Now, I'm very afraid; what else will we lose in the next 4 years? I always felt sorry for the countries where civilians couldn't own firearms or ammunition. Who will feel sorry for us? Whatever happened to "The land of the free, and the home of the brave"? :-(

 

[Dfish1247]

I'll believe the end of the world when I see it. 44 was supposed to be the end, we survived that, surely we can survive this.

 

[kbm6893]

We will get through this. The ammo drought is more about COVID and the massive increase in gun purchases. I've been hearing politicians say things and not deliver for my whole life. It's just to get elected. This will calm down at some point. I'm glad I got into reloading after Newtown but I do wish I had stocked up on more components. I'm good for at least a year at my reloading rate but that will be my new priority.

I'll believe they will "Hell yes, I'm gonna take your AR-15" when they actually do it. I'm not holding my breath. Only good thing about the last 6 months is I have learned that if enough people take to the streets, the cops and the courts are powerless to do anything, and I will be among the "peaceful protesters" if that day ever comes. There are tens of millions of gun owners in this country. I'm not surrendering my property.

Until then, I'll shoot more .22 ammo. Have probably 20,000 rounds of that.

 

[Truckman]

A gun without ammo is a club at best .

Unless it has a bayonet attached, then it's a pike...

I've said this before, and I suppose I can repeat it here: If I play my cards right, I have a lifetime supply of ammo on me right now......Ben