Very interesting, thanks for sharing that. I hope you picked up a couple each of those 11 and 15 round magazines while they had them at a good price.
I bought the only 1076 on GB not owned by J. Edgar Hoover
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Very interesting, thanks for sharing that. I hope you picked up a couple each of those 11 and 15 round magazines while they had them at a good price.
Apparently grooved and checkered front straps both
appeared on the actual FBI guns. See previous post
with factory letter pics for info on that stuff.
Edit: Dis one...weed it!!
http://smith-wessonforum.com/777696-post13.html
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Frank Black
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Yes. Not all Bureau or other L.E.-issued 1076s have front strap checkering. Some have the straight vertical grooves.
Old Corp
Member
Learned that my agency was still ordering and receiving M1076's for a several years after they were officially discontinued.
They'd order 25-40 for incoming academies, mainly because the department was already so invested in 10mm ammo, mags, leather, etc.
Doing so, S&W continued to increase the price substantially until it no longer made sense to continue.
That's when it was replaced by the M4566 and CS45.
IIRC, the same uniform leather and mag pouches that worked for the 1076 worked fine with the 4566.
So - one day, people will run into some M1076's with s/n's that don't match up with 'official production' records I imagine.
They'd order 25-40 for incoming academies, mainly because the department was already so invested in 10mm ammo, mags, leather, etc.
Doing so, S&W continued to increase the price substantially until it no longer made sense to continue.
That's when it was replaced by the M4566 and CS45.
IIRC, the same uniform leather and mag pouches that worked for the 1076 worked fine with the 4566.
So - one day, people will run into some M1076's with s/n's that don't match up with 'official production' records I imagine.
Frank Black
Member
Just curious, what 10mm ammo was your agency issuing back then for duty use/street patrol? ... And was that different from the 'training' or practice ammo?
Thanks.
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Old Corp
Member
Frank, training and carry ammo was always the same. About 90% of the time it was the Federal 10mm 180 gr JHP 'LITE'.
Another year or two it was the Remington equivalent, but always the 10 LITE.
Our adoption of that pistol pre-dated the existence of the .40 S&W, or there's a chance we'd have ended up with something in that.
In a few OIS's, it performed very well.
Miami_JBT
US Veteran
I believe it was the Kentucky State Police that issued the 1076, not the Virginia State Police.
It was my understanding that the Virginia State Police had both the 1026 and 1076. The 1026 my dad had came with the LEO patten leather holster and belt. Unfortunately it was stolen.
Guys, I was wondering if a part brakes while using a 1076, how would one go about getting a replacement part? Does SW still support these guns in warranty?
i did not buy any extended magazines back then. If I only knew back then what I know now.
i did not buy any extended magazines back then. If I only knew back then what I know now.
JohnHL
Member
S&W probably still has a few parts for the model 1076.
Mostly recall parts, I would assume.
If there were any warranty consideration, it would likely be in the form of a credit towards a current model.
Parts for 3rd gens are getting harder to find, but Midway, Brownell's, and Numrich can still supply many.
By the way, Dr. Olds, I loved the work you did on the 442 back in the '60s!
(Do you remember the advertising for the Oldsmobile 442 back in the 1960s with Dr. Olds and Igor in the lab creating the 442?)John
You may be correct. I was going by what the dealer told me back in the 90's. He had several 1076 and 1026 that he said were VSP guns. I did not confirm that. I just bought one of each at the time and wish I still had them.
Frank Black
Member
No, nada, zip-ski.
S&W has no 3rd Gen parts in stock, and no longer services the 3rd Gen line of guns. Any remaining stock of 3rd Gen parts was shipped out to Numrich Corp. several years back.
Numrich may still have some, depending on which 3rd Gen parts you're looking for, but FYI, good luck on finding critical parts for the 45XX- & 10XX-series guns. Midway and Brownells have literally nothing for them.
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JohnHL
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Elkins45
Member
My 1076 came into my possession as a bare frame on a dealer's table at a gunshow sometime in the early 2000's. It stayed that way for a long time until I found someone selling a 1066 slide and barrel assembly on eBay. The only piece missing was the slide stop, which unfortunately is the one part that holds the slide and frame together.
I called S&W and amazingly they said they still had three in stock. So for an additional $39 I now have a 1076/1066 hybrid. I call it my 1071, also referred to as "the safest gun S&W ever made" because it has both a frame mounted decocker and the conventional slide mounted one.
I wonder if S&W would do the trigger recall if I sent it in?
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Frank Black
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Dude
... posting in BIG WORDS means you have nothing important to contribute to this thread. Plus, you're still WRONG.
Just sayin'.
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Dude
Plus, you're still WRONG.
Just sayin'.
Actually...he's right.
I've ordered 3rd Gen parts several times, over the last two years.
JohnHL
Member
Dude
Plus, you're still WRONG.
Just sayin'.
So have I, Frank!!!
Just like Steve and many others!!
Was that a sufficiently important contribution, DUUUUDE?
John
Really ........... enough!!
ArchAngelCD
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Tone it down guys or take it private but stop subjecting everyone to your disagreements.
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