Well, they're gonna get out at some point. You've got more chance of coming into contact with a former inmate than with a former nursing home resident . . .
I received the Covid-19 vaccine yesterday
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Again numbers don't work if 50 times as many have had it as have tested positive we should have had it and all of us should be immune in the US and no new infections. 22.5 millionx50 =1.1billion or 3 times the US population, So obviously that 50 time is a really really wild guess.
Doing the math another way
331,000,000/22.500,000 (US population/known infections) is only 14.7 So the 50-80 is a garbage number even i2-3 months ago. Nov 2 (2 months ago and the date many said the pandemic hoax would end) we only had about 9 million confirmed cases. 9 million times 50 is 450 million or about a third more than our total population!
In the middle off Sept there were 9.5million know infections which is about 1/50th of the US population so we should have all had it 4 months ago if the 50 times number was valid and months prior to that for the 80 times number to be valid
I am always working numbers. I do find it interesting that the CDC says the total number of deaths, last year, was is higher than average by more than the number of confirmed Corona deaths. That is just comparing the number of deaths in previous years to last year. A hard numbers to just fabricate.
I do know that since Dec 11th when the vaccine has came out that Zero people have died from receiving it and 34,000 have died from virus complications. The odds in that math are pretty glaring. One Dr in Florida died 6 weeks after receiving the vaccine, true, but there is no proof it was from the vaccine. As some of those who don't believe the virus death numbers are fond of pointing out. People die all the time fro things unrelated to the virus. 2 people who received the actual vaccine during the trials also died. The could find no link between vaccine and their deaths and their deaths are in line with general mortality. Interestingly 4 who received the placebo died. Once again interesting numbers
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Got the first shot, moderate injection site soreness for two or three days then back to normal.
Jeff423
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Yesterday I got a letter from the VA saying the vaccine was available. I called today and get my first shot tomorrow.
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It does seem like the world is a little topsy-turvy when prisoners are given priority for the vaccine, but on further reflection it makes sense to me.
Not everyone is in there for violent crimes. Sure, a lot are drug dealers. But there are some who have run afoul of tax laws, etc. Some innocent people are even there.
And what a place to be! Confined with people who are reckless at best and others who are sadistic, vicious, and violent. What a place for the virus to spread and mutate. Depending on the prison, I imagine the average age is between 20 and 40, so that they will probably be out some time, perhaps soon.
Just rambling.
Not everyone is in there for violent crimes. Sure, a lot are drug dealers. But there are some who have run afoul of tax laws, etc. Some innocent people are even there.
And what a place to be! Confined with people who are reckless at best and others who are sadistic, vicious, and violent. What a place for the virus to spread and mutate. Depending on the prison, I imagine the average age is between 20 and 40, so that they will probably be out some time, perhaps soon.
Just rambling.
Perhaps I wasn't clear enough about the timeframe I was referring to. As best i recall, the time period when some studies were indicating that the infection rate was 50-80 times higher than the confirmed cases was back about June last year - when confirmed infections nationwide were around 2 million. Obviously we can't have 50-80 times more than the 22.5 million confirmed cases we now know of since there aren't that many people in the whole country.
My point was that at one time there was a HUGE gap between confirmed cases and unconfirmed cases. So much so that it wouldn't surprise me if there are still 5-6 times more people infected or recovered than what have been confirmed through testing. Even if there are 122 million who have it or have had it, then we'd still only be at around 37% of our population with immunity (at best). That's still a long ways from the 70%-90% the epidemiologists say we'll need to achieve herd immunity.
With that in mind, here's another sobering thought. With well over 300k deaths attributed to COVID, and assuming (best case) that our populace is at 37% immunity, by the time we get to even 70% immunity, it wouldn't be unreasonable to expect somewhere near double the death toll.
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As opposed to my 101 year old mother in law. Who worked, paid taxes, never had so much of a parking ticket and has been kept in solitary confinement in her assisted living facility since March of last year.
She's normally out and about in the building because she's a very outgoing lady.
Still not on the list to get the vaccine.
She's normally out and about in the building because she's a very outgoing lady.
Still not on the list to get the vaccine.
That would be right, 60%+ wasted due to incompetence from the highest level of that state. Vaccines that others could have received.
Fits in with thousands killed in nursing homes and thousands of businesses underwater.
Now saying to open the businesses. Huh? 10 months too late.
Meanwhile, victory lap being taken. Pathetic.
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^^^ These are the same administrators submitting COVID data to the CDC, which is why there are so many questions about the validity of data that is being spread by the media.
I can top the prisoners first...around here ski patrol got first in line ahead of first responders! Hey, stopping the weekenders from skiing out of bounds and getting lost in the woods is a high risk occupation, evidently a higher risk than the police.
A major portion of the death rates from wuflu are faked. In a normal year 70-80,000 deaths are reported from influenza(flu). Don't believe anything you read and only half of what you see. It is being used as a means of control.
This is difficult to read. I'm at a loss for words, so I'll go with God Bless Her, wish her the best and say no more.
Please cite sources.
The flu data are not collected in the same manner as COVID, and annual flu death rates are ESTIMATED, as per the CDC.
If COVID deaths were reported in the same manner as the flu, numbers would be far higher.
Conversely, if flu was counted by same criteria, death rates would be halved or more.
Interestingly, the flu here has all but been extinguished by the safety protocols put in place for the pandemic. How do we know? All of the local COVID tests administered are now also flu tests. Positivity rates are around 0.1%...in sick people being tested ! That is about 2 orders of magnitude lower than same time last year.
OK, just assuming that is all 100% correct.
So deduct 70,000-80,000 flu deaths from the COVID totals. That only leaves 250,000 or so.
Now assume a full HALF of those are "fake" COVID deaths.
That leaves 125,000 dead.
No big deal, right? Only 1-1/2 times as many as regular flu. Of course all those deaths are in ADDITION to deaths from the regular flu.
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Me Too!
GOT MY COVID-19 VACCINE TODAY 1-12-2021....
I had to go the local VA Hospital for my DRE (much fun--NOT). I'm an hour away, so I didn't want to end up wasting the commute to & back... So, I combined donating a pint of my "finest" at the next door University Hospital before that memorable DRE, and found out at the VA Hospital that my 68-1/2yr body could get a "walk-in" Covid-19 vaccine too!... ... Yee-Hah!
All said and done, NO, I didn't just go there to stick my finger up my xxx. I actually accomplished much more!
GOT MY COVID-19 VACCINE TODAY 1-12-2021....
I had to go the local VA Hospital for my DRE (much fun--NOT). I'm an hour away, so I didn't want to end up wasting the commute to & back... So, I combined donating a pint of my "finest" at the next door University Hospital before that memorable DRE, and found out at the VA Hospital that my 68-1/2yr body could get a "walk-in" Covid-19 vaccine too!... ... Yee-Hah!
All said and done, NO, I didn't just go there to stick my finger up my xxx. I actually accomplished much more!
If a major portion of the Virus deaths are fake just how did an estimated 299,028 excess deaths occurred from late January through October 3, 2020 according to the CDC
Excess Deaths Associated with COVID-19, by Age and Race and Ethnicity — United States, January 26–October 3, 2020 | MMWR
The is a chart going around on some social media claiming lower over all death figures but it is very flawed according to Fact check: Chart does not present accurate US deaths figure for 2020 | Reuters
Just because someone posted it on your favorite social media site does not mean it is true. Go find actual sources
Excess Deaths Associated with COVID-19, by Age and Race and Ethnicity — United States, January 26–October 3, 2020 | MMWR
The is a chart going around on some social media claiming lower over all death figures but it is very flawed according to Fact check: Chart does not present accurate US deaths figure for 2020 | Reuters
Just because someone posted it on your favorite social media site does not mean it is true. Go find actual sources
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It occurs to me that debating this topic is pointless because a lot of people don't have the background to understand what is going on or what the numbers mean.
Therefore, I won't.
People should do what they think best and stop trying to tell people what THEY should do.
Therefore, I won't.
People should do what they think best and stop trying to tell people what THEY should do.
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