I would not put it past them!

[italiansport]

I live in Arizona and open carry has been legal since day 1. We finally got concealed carry passed around 25 years ago. No one will even give you a 2nd glance here if you are openly armed and in the supermarket shopping or in line at the bank. I oftentimes stop at both those establishments when I'm coming from or going to my range.
However bars and resturants that serve alcohol are not places where open carry is permitted and this has always made sense to me..
Jim

 

[TexasArmed]

I'm located in Michigan but they did not have a sign posted. I was told its my responsibility to find out if its "OK" to carry in an establishment and they do not need to post a sign. So I've been Googling places I visit often.

Ill plea the fifth on the question!!

Very stupid people

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Oh that's how it is in Michigan. At least in Texas they must post the 30.06 sign, English and Spanish 1 and one half inch high. But I will just accept their publicized request in the
news media that my money is not welcome there.
I figure its no longer safe to eat there, now that only agenda
promoting open carry folks will try, and gang bangers.
I would hate to have my handgun stolen in their parking lot. I doubt they would
compensate me for the loss. It is not like I do not have insurance that would cover my guns
but I am really partial to my handguns.

My sympathy for them does not extend to endangering my safety when it comes to their policy toward open carry also being applied to concealed carry. We fixed this problem in Texas after the Luby Cafeteria Massacre when Concealed Carry started here.

I will honor they policy and not even go thru their drive thru either.

 

[tops]

If anyone here remotely resembles these two dipwads then I apologize in advance.Yeah ,I know 2nd Amendment...God given rights...Blah,Blah,Blah!

The gene pool is obviously tainted on both sides of the aisle and people like this don't advance our cause.

Wasn't the guy on the left in "Deliverance"? The other clown is either wearing crocks or pumps.Must be California transplants.

Guns or no guns. I am not going to associate with people that are dressed like that in public. Larry

 

[mc5aw]

As far as I'm concerned, I'm more troubled with the "guilt by association" stigma that I must bear the burden of thanks to morons like the ones shown. Those twin imbeciles are playing too many war games on the computer and harbor delusions of mall ninjadom. If a business chooses to adopt a no guns policy, so be it. I can choose to patronize the establishment or not. But as a lawful and experienced firearms owner, I cannot avoid being lumped into the tactifool cesspool by the anti crowd with individuals who besmirch my lawfulness and experience with their own stupidity and ignorance. The two stooges are as much a danger to our 2A rights as the most vehement anti-gunner because they embody the worst characteristics, and represent the worst stereotypes, of firearms owners.

 

[Doug M.]

Got this: Open Carry | Starbucks | Chipotles from another forum. Well written critique of the window lickers who did this.

 

[sipowicz]

If those morons came into my store I'd make the same rule.

 

[coltle6920]

Got this: Open Carry | Starbucks | Chipotles from another forum. Well written critique of the window lickers who did this.

Fantastic article,IMHO.I do not frequent any "fast food" type businesses but if I did I wouldn't boycott them if they banned or refused service to yahoos like the ones in the OP.

Even in an open carry state there should be a reasonable excuse to somehow deny service to idiots like these that are trying to make a point no matter how stupid.

 

[coltle6920]

If those morons came into my store I'd make the same rule.

Sip.with your background I'd like to think you'd offer some much needed advice after escorting them to the door.

 

[TexasArmed]

If those morons came into my store I'd make the same rule.

Except in Texas if you want it to carry the force of law you would need to go ahead and put up the 30.06 sign. So far I do not think they have done that.

I smell something else in the wind here, involving 50 million
dollars. But once their stated policy is to stop ALL GUN OWNERS, which includes concealed carry holders, why would I endanger myself and others by leaving my handgun
in my vehicle, for some thug to steal and use? I only do that when I have to use the post office.
not at restaurants that restrict concealed carry. They might as well go ahead and restrict police officers as well, since there could be a Dorner among them.

My first thought is these two alleged open carry folks were
part of a former NYC mayor's armed security. Let me state
emphatically if Mayor Bloomberg's armed security walked in
wearing guns on my property they would be asked to leave
my property. I do not believe those who advocate disarming
concealed carry persons, should be allowed by law to hire
armed guards unless they are a bank. After all armed security
for the elites, are not police officers.

 

[TexasArmed]

Guns or no guns. I am not going to associate with people that are dressed like that in public. Larry

Yeah I noticed them clothes, they look like something a new Yorker might wear, certainly not like average Texans.

In checking on this incident at Chipotles one site mentioned
that a concealed carry permit holder had a negligent discharge
at one of these restaurants. It occurs to me, that more of those
happen with semi automatics than with revolvers. If they want
to be real safe, could they require police officers armed with semi
automatics, to only carry revolvers? I have never seen
a negligent discharge with a revolver myself although I have
experienced a revolver that malfunctioned once, and I suppose some
of the old model revolvers don't have the mechanism to keep them from firing
when dropped.

That one guy in the picture looks like he has his finger inside the trigger guard of the rifle. They teach never putting your
finger inside the trigger guard in CHL classes unless you are
prepared to destroy a target down range. So it looks like to
me this restaurant chain had two experiences at least with
someone from the gun community. AS for allowing police to
carry guns (including semi automatics) but not anyone else.
many CHL holders as well as former Marines and other Military
folks have done far more shooting including at live targets than police officers. Some officers shoot less than 100 rounds in a
year, while some CHL holders shoot many more than that.
I still would not volunteer to park on their property, leave my
gun in my vehicle at the risk of someone stealing it, just to
patronize the restaurant no matter how much I might like the
food there. Its not like they have a patent on the food.

 

[Arik]

I've seen it and there was one at a gun show a few years back. All modern semi autos (that I can think of) are perfectly safe. The problem lies with idiots buying cheap holsters or not using any at all. Those holsters are flimsy and uncomfortable which makes the wearer fidget with the more. People don't seem to understand that buying a holster is not the same as buying a cell phone holder

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[gm272gs]

If those two clownshoes came in my store, I would tell them to get the hell out.

From a legal standpoint, I think it makes sense that some of these establishments put up these signs. One thing that can drive you out of business in a hurry, is a lawsuit. The close second to that is no customers.

If people would just carry discreetly and concealed, it would be a non-issue, and the sign wouldn't be required. Most people these days are too busy to notice that - while they walk around texting or talking into their bluetooth earbud - but they'll notice the mall ninja with the scary black rifle.

In my state, it's legal for two bicycle riders to ride next to each other and take the entire lane. My wife and I never do that, because people in cars are our worst enemy and we don't want to make them any more inconvenienced than they already seem to be. Just because it's legal, doesn't mean that you should do it. I try not to antagonize people.

It's legal to buy and smoke pot in Colorado now. That doesn't make me want to go there and smoke pot.

I am just shaking my head here.

 

[bmb96mus]

Got this: Open Carry | Starbucks | Chipotles from another forum. Well written critique of the window lickers who did this.

Thanks for the link, great read. I've never heard of this "ociyf" before. But I've seen videos online and on the news. Sad that these people honestly think they're "helping"

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[vito]

No one with any understanding of human nature should be surprised when some in the pro-gun crowd behave in ways that embarrass the rest of us with their outlandish appearance or behavior. Of course cases like this will be used by the anti-gun folks to try to justify more restrictive laws on the carrying of firearms. But just as the criminal use of firearms by criminals does not justify taking away the rights of the law abiding, neither does the abrasive behavior of some pro-gun activists justify taking away the rights of the responsible gun owners.

I believe in freedom of speech and expression, but that doesn't mean I am OK with being around people wearing shirts that say in big bold letters "Fxxx Yxx". Civility and manners is what keeps us civilized and keeps the barbarians at bay. We can show support for the 2nd Amendment without having to feel that we must defend the actions of the people involved in this Chipotle incident.

 

[TexasArmed]

I agree with you on pot, and them two looks like they might be pot smokers too. I would not hang out at any business where they drink or smoke pot either one. Drugs and alcohol do not mix with guns very well and is an explosive recipe.

But any business in Texas who wants to prohibit guns have a
legal way to do it, which is the 30.06 sign. In the absence of that I don't fail to carry mine just because of a gun buster sign
or some public announcement. Proper notice is the 30.06 sign
and if for some reason they know you are carrying. How would
they know a concealed carry holder is carrying unless they did
strip searches, or video taped the bathrooms? I am certain
that the legal department of this fast food chain considered
this incident as well as a previous incident in which a CHL holder
had a negligent discharge at one of their restaurants. So
unless they use a legitimate legal 30.06 sign I do not expect
most concealed carry holders would comply. But publicly asking
customers in Texas of all places, to not carry their concealed handguns
and who have CHL's there is a recipe for reaching that no customer situation.
There were 400,000 of us in 2008.

 

[Doug M.]

A look at a larger version of the photo shows that neither of these idiots has their finger in the trigger guard, but that's the only good thing I can say about them. I'd better stop there. My editorial comments on them might be inconsistent with moderator expectations.

 

[catach22]

Is it just me or does anyone else think the @&& on the right should be arrested for brandishing? If he held a handgun like that he would on the needing help end of a 911 call.

yes absolutely...where i live the fool on the right would have been arrested. For carrying in a manor to alarm. I believe most people would agree that is a ready position. I own a jewelry and if this guy walk through my door like that then i or one of my employee would probably draw down on him or worse. we have been rob before. so we are well trained and armed. These open carry extremist should really take a good look at themselves. I live in a state where open carry is widely accepted. it is very common to see some one with a firearm on there side. But we still have people like this. And the problem is no one cares what they have to say here because open carry is so accepted. there was even an open carry group here that was parading at a local walmart. No one cared so they called the cops on themselves to make a scene and draw attention to themselves.

 

[Protected One]

I just saw this hilarious "take" on the Chipotle decision. Starts at the 2.20 second mark. Enjoy

Concealed Carry: Better To Have It & Not Need It - YouTube

 

[Law of Self Defense]

Got this: Open Carry | Starbucks | Chipotles from another forum. Well written critique of the window lickers who did this.

Thanks for the kind words!

--Andrew, @LawSelfDefense

 

[Law of Self Defense]

Thanks for the link, great read. I've never heard of this "ociyf" before.

You haven't heard of "OCIYF!" ("open carry in YOUR FACE!") before because I made the term up as generally representative of these attention-needy childishly petulant little punks.

--Andrew, @LawSelfDefense