id help, value and care info 38 m&p

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I have had this gun for protection for a long time. Anything you can tell me about it would be a big help. The serial no. is 6200xx. It is on the butt plate, under the cartridge ejector on the barrel and on the front side of the magazine. Also there is a number 39271 on the frame where the ejector closes. I have a couple of pics.
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I have had this gun for protection for a long time. Anything you can tell me about it would be a big help. The serial no. is 6200xx. It is on the butt plate, under the cartridge ejector on the barrel and on the front side of the magazine. Also there is a number 39271 on the frame where the ejector closes. I have a couple of pics.
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Can you post a picture? That's going to be the only real way to help. If you need, go to photobucket.com, load the photo there, then copy the link it will generate (the bottom on of the four) over to your post and past it beneath your text. It sounds like you have a mid-1930s M&P of some type - but value is highly variable on condition and if it still has original grips. It is possible it is a 50s or later gun, too, because the SN was repeated with an S and C prefix up until the late 60s (then others after that, too!).

With a picture, then I or someone more knowledgeable can try to help.
 
Ts

For the record, the cylinder is what holds the cartridges on a revolver.
A magazine is what holds them on a pistol, meaning a semi-automatic to most of us.

Later, Mike Priwer
 
In general, it's best to photograph/show the right side, because then you can get a quick look at how many screws are on the side and know instantly what you are looking at, but that's not really necessary here.

With that S/N and that hammer, it can only be a 1930s vintage M&P, 5" barrel it appears. Funny, theres a thread further down the first page of this forum with a lot of pics of 5" M&Ps in it, original post by StrawHat.

The grips look like 60s or 70s vintage herret 1/2 checkered targets (I think that is what they are) - looks like Rosewood I think.

I am guessing it's a .38 S&W special, should be on the right side of the barrel.

"Book" value on that is, in "fair" condition $135 with correct grips. Those grips are probably worth the same as some original ones, so we'll ignore that.

Book values (early 2006 update) are generally low because of appreciation lately, but on the M&P they are more accurate - they made so many millions of these over the years that they aren't scarce. I think they have made about three million total to date since 1899 when it came out.

the official name of that gun is ".38 Military & Police Model of 1905 - Fourth Change." During WWII it was made a little more cheaply and called the Victory Model. In 1958 it was renamed the Model 10 Military & Police. This could also thus be called a "pre- Model 10." I have one of these, a 1947 "transition model" that is much like yours - 5", pre-war long trigger action, etc.

They shoot well, the 5" balances better to me than the 4" or 6" - just a good solid gun. Don't use +p ammo, though - stick with standard .38 loads. If you want to sell it, use the classifieds here or an on-line auction like Gunbroker or Auction Arms.

If you want correct grips for it, send me an email and I can point some out to you. If I made any mistakes here someone should be by soon to correct it! Someone might have a better idea of current fair market value than me, but I think the book sounds about right on this one.

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Thanks alot, Kamerer. Would you leave it in the condition it's in or restore it? The action is still solid and is still accurate to shoot. I like the grips, but to have some originals might be nice.
 
TS

That price estimate of $130 is right in the ballpark. The finish is the obvious problem
with this gun. There are many many better ones available, for another $50 to $100, so
this one is pretty close to the bottom of the price range. Everything Kamerer mentioned
is correct.

If this gun hs no family significance, I would not bother refinishing it. Its money
you would never recover. For the purpose of self-protection, its just what you would
want . I would not waste any money on a better pair of grips. The correct grips will
be very small - what you have there is probably better for shooting, anyway.

Later, Mike Priwer
 

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