Sig P226 in .357sig Couple spare clips. Same as Ive been carrying all these years. May mix it up with Springfield Armory Operator in .45acp.
If limited to 10 rounds, what do you carry?
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I like the S&W 3rd Gens too much to carry one and risk it getting neglected in an evidence locker with a case number crudely etched on it in the event that I should actually have to use it.
I can live with that happening to an M&P, plus they're cheaper, lighter, and generally more available.
A concept I could never buy into.... if I'm carrying a gun for "protection" I want the best (for me) gun I can have available. If I should be forced to use it, and I come out on the other end of the encounter; then the cost of loosing it is a small price to pay.
That said .... I have a backup in the safe for every carry gun I actually daily carry................ Sometimes the Backups even have there own Backups.
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I'm with you. When you calculate the odds of actually having a gun confiscated, it seems well worth the risk to carry your best.
And I love 3rd Gens too, but they're not exactly Korth or Wilson Combat...
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I live & carry in a 10rd state. I dont see much of a point carrying a full size gun with 10rds when I can carry a smaller gun with 10+1 rds. My 1911pd is the exception, but mostly its a g26/27. I feel quite comfy carry 9mm with good ammo like the 124gr hst +p.
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I used to think that until the Kalif doj put a list out of guns we can buy. So losing a gun to evidence could mean I never get it back. So I stopped carrying ny expensive 1911s & went to a glock 26/27 or 19/32.
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Different strokes.
Personally, while I love the S&W 3rd Gen pistols, I don't feel that there's anything functionally wrong with the M&P Series, nor do I feel that I'm giving anything up by choosing an M&P over a 3rd Gen.
Honestly, I know some folks don't like modern polymer-framed pistols, and I do feel that the 3rd Gens are both aesthetically as well as structurally superior, but in terms of overall function, the M&P Series is just as good if not better for self-defense.
If you feel more confident carrying a time-proven 3rd Gen, then more power to you, but I'd rather carry a cheap M&P.
Besides, do you know what I've been carrying since last October? A Smith & Wesson SW40VE, a Gen 3 SIGMA. So at the very least, I think we can all agree that the M&P is an upgrade to the Sigma Series, so although I wouldn't be carrying what may be the pinnacle of S&W semiautomatic pistols, I'd at least be carrying the finest of their polymer-framed pistols if that is indeed where I end up.
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There's nothing wrong with Standard Pressure 9mm let alone +P for self-defense, I merely prefer .40 S&W or higher because as previously mentioned, as of about 2 years ago, wild animals including hogs have been sighted in my residential area, so I like something with a bit more oomph that would still be effective against tougher four-legged threats.
Some will argue that 9mm is already enough, and they may be right, but I prefer something larger with more energy.
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Hey.... carry what you want... what you're comfortable with..... I'm not putting down anyone's choices.............. I'm just set in my ways so with a few 3rd Gen guns ... that's what I carry ..... for the past 30 years.
Old dogs .... new tricks............ I'm happy ... you're happy .... we are all happy...................
Old dogs .... new tricks............ I'm happy ... you're happy .... we are all happy...................
My state doesn't limit magazine capacity but my hand size does. That being the case my primary EDC is a S&W Shield with a Glock 48 for nightstand and occasional carry. Interestingly enough the G-48 is only 1/4" taller than the Shield when the Shield 8 round mag is installed and only 1" longer in OAL. But to me the Shield carries "smaller" if that makes any sense.
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"The SCOTUS says carry permits are Constitutional and unless or until that changes, states can require them"
Is there a case citation to support that statement?
Is there a case citation to support that statement?
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Who is "they"? There is an estimated 18,000 agencies scattered across the US. Each with their own policy and procedure.
Heller cemented the right to bear arms, but also opined that states can regulate the manner of carry, through permits and other laws . . .
Living in a restricted state I carry an M&P 40C. I asked myself 10 rounds of 40 SW or 10 rounds of 9? The 40 is my choice. I think even if I was in a free state I would probably go with the 40.
Excellent choice.
Just as the SR9c was (prior to the P365) my 10+1 optimum choice in 9mm, I consider the M&P40C or its M2.0 successor to be the optimum 10+1 choice in .40. Now, I am talking both moonbat state compliant & limited to 10+1 and modern plastic wonder guns... so any folks who think I am dissing my beloved all-metal 3rd Gens, you are wrong.
Disclaimer: My opinions are 90% range-based as it is rare that I carry more than my little pocket mini-mouse guns.
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I've worked for a couple of different places in my career. Yes, some did, some didn't.
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Mr. smitten, you're way over thinking this! most violent confrontations happen at an arms legth or two. The average number of shots fired is three. If you think you need multiple 30+ round mags you need more range time! You're not walking the streets of Ramadi or Fallujah. I have.
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Living in NY, Upstate, I've never been able to carry more than 10 in my time with a permit. Old full capacity mags are no longer legal either thanks to King Cuomo and his UnsafeAct. We still carry just about anything people in unrestricted states do with the general exception of bigger 9mm. Without a capacity advantage there's no point in carry a midsize or larger 9mm over a 357, 40, 45. So most of us don't, if we carry a 9 its something that only holds 10+1 or less anyway. As far as the people who love to say "The 2nd Amendment is my permit"...just stop it. Try living in a restricted state and then let us know how that works for you. You can't buy a handgun in NY without a permit. And if you are caught with one and you
don't have a NY permit that's a felony and enjoy your upcoming state sponsored vacation.
don't have a NY permit that's a felony and enjoy your upcoming state sponsored vacation.
No question that the plastic guns work, are lightweight, relatively cheap (prior to the current panic) and no big deal whatsoever if you drop it, damage it, lose it or leave it in your car and it melts (or even doggie chew damage!).
That is the beauty of plastic for carry. 
But for collecting, home defense and range fun, I'm 3rd Gen all the way.
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Same calibers/guns I've carried for many years. Something in 9, .38SPL, .40 & .45 ... only one of which uses magazines of more than 10rds - (12rd/.40) - and I have several 10rd mags for it.
Even when the federal ban came along, and my state enacted its own magazine capacity restriction, I was buying, using and carrying pistols with single digit mag capacities.
I carried one or another hi-cap duty pistol during my career, but I'd started in the revolver days. Back then I'd carried a Commander, Star PD or some revolver off-duty, and I often continued to carry pistols with single stack magazines even while carrying a hi-cap pistol on-duty.
I don't mind carrying my 7 & 8rd 9's, my 7 & 9rd .40's or my 6-8rd .45's. Matter of fact, I finished my LE career carrying an issued 7+1 compact .45 in my plainclothes assignment, and I didn't feel ill-equipped or "under gunned" at all.
Then again, this is the opinion of someone who often carried, and still carries, 5-shot J-frames on my own time.
I'm the same way. I started my career with a 4" 686 and two speed-loaders in 1985 and for at least half my career of 29 yrs my duty sidearm was a Colt Govt .45 with four spare 7-rd mags. I never felt under-gunned.
I've been retired for 7 yrs now and anymore my 3" 686+ is my daily carry with one speedloader. My Glock 26 is another favorite.
I do have my Glock 17 and carry it sometimes, but more often than not what I'm carrying is 10 rds or less as it is. I don't feel at a dis-advantage at all.
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I'm the same way, I don't worry about "what ifs". I carry it and enjoy it. My S&W revolvers are tools - a beautifully machined, fine precision tool that I enjoy the quality of on a daily basis. I don't leave it in the safe worrying about "what if". It's a tragic ending for a tool that deserves to be used what it's intended for.
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I'm aware of that, but I just feel better carrying a gun that holds more than three rounds, and I never said that I did need 30+ rounds either, in fact the premise of this entire thread is what folks carry who live in states where magazine capacity is limited to 10 rounds what firearm they carry as I myself may end bound by such restrictions and am basically looking at my options.
Honestly, I used to carry a Walther PPK/S (a single stack .380 with a 7rd magazine) without a spare magazine and felt safe doing so. I just started carrying more because I could and because I found a cheap double stack SW40VE while shopping for a new firearm, which I had narrowed down to either a Ruger SR40c (10rds) or an M&P45 Shield (7rds) prior to my chance encounter with the SW40VE, but since I was short on cash I chose the SW40VE instead and took the fact that it could hold 14rds in the magazine as a bonus. I never even set out to find a high capacity firearm in the first place, it just sort of ended up that way.
Ya third gen guns aren't easy to come by these days.... but they are not Registered Magnums worth north of five Grand and are all but irreplaceable.
I was lucky in the disposable cash situation in the 90s and early 21st century..... so I'd take advantage and buy "lightly used/sock drawer" $300 39xx and 69xx series gun when the opportunity presented;... some utility 915s for three bills or less.
I even bought some Performance Center guns for around $500 when the opportunity presented themselves. One Shorty-9 got carried a lot before I found out (here) how few were made.... still carry it from time to time as it's no longer "ANIB" but shows holster wear on the high points and edges...... But still a handsome gun!
Owned a couple of Glock 26s and 19s but never warmed to them........ or shot them as well as my 3rd Gen Smiths.
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This favorite. Only 7 rounds ( 6 +1) but plenty of poop.
This favorite. Only 7 rounds ( 6 +1) but plenty of poop.
My entry in that class would be a Sig 245 or Sig C3
JohnnieBoy
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I carried my Colt Officers .45 MKIV for years. Now I rotate between 3 H & K's
HK .45c
HK USPc .40
HK P2sk .40 (mostly my edc)
All 3 have the lem trigger mod in "light lem." Best butter trigger I have ever felt in a pistol.
HK .45c
HK USPc .40
HK P2sk .40 (mostly my edc)
All 3 have the lem trigger mod in "light lem." Best butter trigger I have ever felt in a pistol.
HorizontalMike
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If I were limited to 10-round magazines, I would "carry" myself over to a State where that would not apply...
OH WAIT!... I already live in Tejas...
OH WAIT!... I already live in Tejas...
Contradiction or Accommodation?
Is anyone else noticing the seeming inconsistency between the majority "no problem with a reinstated 10-round mag limitation" opinions being voiced here and another thread that's running currently in which 3 out of 4 members stated that they carry at least one spare magazine?
Should that confuse me or not? Is it a contradiction or an accommodation?
Yes, I know some said they carry a spare magazine because the magazine in the gun could fail... ... but I think most are carrying a spare magazine because it offers more total rounds.
Can someone help me to understand.
Is anyone else noticing the seeming inconsistency between the majority "no problem with a reinstated 10-round mag limitation" opinions being voiced here and another thread that's running currently in which 3 out of 4 members stated that they carry at least one spare magazine?
Should that confuse me or not? Is it a contradiction or an accommodation? Yes, I know some said they carry a spare magazine because the magazine in the gun could fail...
... but I think most are carrying a spare magazine because it offers more total rounds.Can someone help me to understand.
