If you woke one morning and society had collapsed

[Smoke]

If you woke one morning and society had collapsed

I'd really wonder how I managed to sleep through it

 

[Highhawk1948]

I am staying on the farm and defending it. Plenty of guns, ammo, food, supplies. Probably set some trip wires with a couple of shotguns.

 

[shawn mccarver]

(First response to it happening) WOOHOO!! 'BOUT DAMNED TIME!
Lock and load.

We don't have to be the hardest targets.
We just have to be harder targets than the self-disarmed, hoplophobic socialists.
Sit back and wait for Darwin's theory to test itself.

This is good advice. Bugging out? Only if in the middle of a huge metropolis filled with unprepared scared people, AND only if you already have some place to go. Otherwise, might be best to "bug in."

 

[lowriderfxr]

Well if the Packers keep beating the Eagles the Cowboys would end up co-leaders of the NFC East.

 

[The Real Hawkeye]

hunker down with the family and my stuff. my daily pack holds enought to get me to my castle. once home, the ole' remington police tactical with a 2 shot ext. 9 rounds of 2 3/4" shells of various nastiness. with a side saddle +4. also have a bag of the aguila short shells that allow for about 3 more in the tube. indoors? G41 with a light, arredondo ext mags, and my thigh rig. we aren't going anywhere if/when it happens. my in-laws live down stairs, and down the block. we have our OWN neighborhood watch program... the beach is close and i know how to dive and cast. we are prepaied for the first couple months.

I would test those mini shells for reliability. Few report that their weapons function problem-free with them.

 

[CoMF]

(If you woke one morning and society had collapsed) and you had to bug out...

I'd be beyond caring. I'll probably starve to death before my choice of weapon became relevant.

 

[Engine49guy]

Anyone remember James Burkes Connections series 1, episode 1 ,
The initial 10 part series of how we are so dependent on technology to survive was conceived in 1978 after the 2nd big NY power failure in 1977
Enjoy !

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4sb7bOljBAQ

If your in a hurry ff to 3:15

 

[CoMF]

^ Exactly why we all have a vested interest in making sure society doesn't collapse in the first place.

 

[chud333]

My Ar15, a Colt 6920 Magpul.
I could take small game, large game with it. As well as
feel perfectly safe using it for defense.
Bullet would be a good 55 gr. HP if limited to one round.
Great thing about this gun is there's lots of 5.56 and .223
ammo around since it's a Military standard round and i could
always (scrounge) more ammo up one way or another.
I've shot AR's for a long time so it's comfortable and accurate
to me anyways.

Chuck

 

[scooter123]

All these discussions about SHTF and Bugging Out just remind me of what happened during the Blackout of 2007. The VERY FIRST thing to be shut down was Gas Stations. Not a single station in the Greater Detroit Metropolitan Area had a standby generator to power the fuel pumps. I have yet to see any indication of that changing because the Gas Stations still go down during a local power outage. So, think about this, you have a "cabin in the woods" 500 miles away but the fuel in the tank of your bug out vehicle will only provide 350 miles of range. Better plan on a long walk, in the dark, in an area where strangers will NOT be welcomed. My plan is to shelter in place, where I know the area, the neighbors, and folks I can rely on.

 

[Will Carry]

The people who are going to rebuild society are going to have to organize, stick together and form a well regulated militia based on Christian/Judeo values. Humans are social animals and the only way they will thrive is in groups. Unless it is some sort of global natural disaster, our society will be able to rebuild it's infrastructure and get going again. If it is a global catastrophe then God help us. Only the young and the fit will survive for long.
I would make sure I had an AR-15 with plenty of ammo, a 12gauge shotgun and a 22LR. I flintlock rifle wouldn't be a bad idea. You can make gun powder, flints and shot. A bow wouldn't be a bad idea either.

 

[soFlaNative]

Roll over, scratch my arse and go back to sleep. Keep dreaming.

 

[jwk]

Since the purpose of a handgun is to make sure that you always have a gun within arms reach, in your scenario, I would want a reasonably sized semi-auto in the most potent chambering that you could handle. The reason for the semi-auto is you can usually conceal a 45 auto easier than you can a 45 revolver.

In your scenario, you might have to use a handgun for personal defense. While no one wants to be shot, if I have to shoot someone, I want a bigger hole in the target. Granted you have to have good bullet placement but if all else is equal a bigger hole kills something faster.

 

[rwsmith]

I would only bug.....

I would only bug if it was proven that I couldn't survive at home and I figured that out before I died.

Then I would be forced to be a Road Warrior with my guns and cans of dog food in my mini van and loot the countryside.

 

[thardgrave]

If it is that bad, then this is really a useless topic.....

 

[CoMF]

Then I would be forced to be a Road Warrior with my guns and cans of dog food in my mini van and loot the countryside.

Sooner or later, you'd run into this guy though...

And whatever you do, stay far FAR away from Thunderdome.

 

[amazingflapjack]

Reflecting on when I woke up this morning...society had ALREADY collapsed. 12 gauge.

 

[Donn]

Oh boy! Another "what if" thread! OK, here's a "what if" for all you bug out advocates. Suppose the SHTF scenario begins with an EMP? Unless your getaway vehicle is old enough to be equipped with a mechanical distributor, breaker points and condenser, you're not going anywhere except on foot. Your shiny, new Ram/Silverado/F-250 will be a two ton door stop. Said it a dozen times, unless you're at your bug out location when the dreck jumps off, chances of getting there are slim and none.

 

[Maddog 521]

I'm staying in my cul-de-sac. If the nuclear smog from the plant south of me starts blowing my way, then I will have to make new plans. BTW I will have "what I have" to defend me and my family.

 

[JayAychOh]

A straight, direct answer to the OP question: Colt 6920 with a 4x ACOG.