Interesting questin: How many rounds?

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By the time that gentleman got 1/2 way through I didn't care anymore. It is your life so that makes your thoughts on the subject the most important. I went from a 442 to a Kahr PM9 more for the thin than the capacity. That is a minimum for me. I carry a 3" 1911 most of the time.
 
Tell the truth, my brother.

At last...thank you!!!!! Someone who knows stuff and relates FACTS. Bless your little heart! Can I get an Amen?!?!?

Be safe.



Protected One said:
After watching the following video (which I found posed a great question) I'm interested to hear what you gentlemen have to say on the subject. And, if you're NOT a gentleman feel free to comment anyway.:D


Five Rounds Enough For Concealed Carry? - YouTube
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I've played the odds for a good many years now: J-frame and sometimes a Speed Strip, more often not. I feel perfectly comfortable with that, especially now that I'm retired, can no longer drive after dark, and don't go into iffy places frequented by iffy people. But when I was working and getting out a lot more I still felt secure with that protection. plus a cell phone, small flashlight and a couple of pocketknives.

The math works just fine for me.
 
You could rip off 5-6 rounds real easy in an adrenaline filled confrontation. Then settle in to be a little more precise. Carry as much as is comfortable for you.
 
I hear rummers of what has been happening along the southern border, and think high cap is the only way to go FOR THEM. 5 rounds has been all the comfort I've needed. I have one relative with multiple death threats on his life, and 5 is all he needed (actually 2 the first time, and 1 each the 2 other times). If you miss with 13 it won't matter, if you hit with the first, you are in good shape for the next 4 guys. Ivan
 
shouldazagged said:
I've played the odds for a good many years now: J-frame and sometimes a Speed Strip, more often not. I feel perfectly comfortable with that, especially now that I'm retired, can no longer drive after dark, and don't go into iffy places frequented by iffy people. But when I was working and getting out a lot more I still felt secure with that protection. plus a cell phone, small flashlight and a couple of pocketknives.

The math works just fine for me.
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I think thats the point the video was making:
People can (and will) carry as much as they want - you can ALWAY concoct senarios where 2 full-size guns and 3 spare mags each won't be enough, but the overwhelming majority will never need any...and those few that do will need less than 5.:cool:
 
I tend to fall in the more is better than less category. Worse possible thing I could imagine besides getting shot is being out of ammo and the bg knowing it :eek:
 
Said it a dozen times. If you have to reload, it's no longer self defense it's a fire fight. If that's the case, you're in deep excrement, doesn't matter if you've got a J frame or a Glock with a 50 round drum. Especially if you've got a 50 round drum.
 
Protected One said:
We're not discussing "cops" here. OF COURSE they need to be equiped differently than civilians.
This clearly falls into that category of -"Well, here's a scenario...."
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Well I am, sorry it bothered you...

edit: should have read I AM...:)
 
I think carrying five or six rounds is fine. To carry more than that can put you in bad light if you were ever forced to draw and fire your weapon. Carrying more than one weapon,IMO, could indicate to an attorney that you were looking for a fight.

I think we should get over the Zombie B.S. and get on with life. Carry a firearm with the hope you never fire it. Go to the range, practice and shoot as much as you want. Be prepared to defend yourself and your loved ones, the rest will have to take the responsiblity to do the same.

If it is a home invasion I will stop the threat!

Good Luck
 
I agree with what he says about 5 rounds handling the vast majority of concealed carry situations. Of course, more is preferred to less up to a point beyond 5, but 5 gets all but the most extreme. If it takes more than 5 then the BG probably will win and if there's several BGs with guns I'm not likely to get off more than 5 anyway.

Having said that, I carry a 9c with 13 rds or a BG 380 with 7 rds. I do occasionally carry an additional mag with my BG but not all the time.

Home defense is a different situation. I like to have more than 5 rounds for that. More likely to be more than one invader and shooting distances are likely to be further away. I used a 5 shoot revolver with speed loader and 12 ga for home defense for many years.
 
Before the safe act in NY, I generally carried 10+1 most of the time. That was the NY limit beforehand. Afterwards I started to carry smaller lower cap guns (J frames, .45 XDs, 9mm Shield, Ultra-sized Kimber, etc.) and extra mags, strips or speed loaders. I also started to carry a bug gun more often. So, I typically had more rounds on me after the safe act than before!

I was at a seminar regarding the legality of handgun use in defense. One of the presenters, a county deputy, stated that the "hit" rate for LEOs is roughly 20%. I'm not sure if that is a local or national stat, but it got me to thinking that a J frame in the hands of a cop is likely to only have one hit (statistically speaking). I don't know how that knowledge will affect my carry practices, but it is an interesting fact.

It should be noted that a NY judge threw out andy's 7 round edict and NYers are now back to the the (still unconstitutional) 10+1 round mag limit.
 
For starters, I don't care what an attorney thinks about how much I carry because they are going to try to make me look like the villain looking for a fight just because I carry a gun.

Second, missing with many rounds can be effective as well. Effective meaning that the perpetrator(s) decide that you are to much of a hassle and they don't want to die. Its called violence of action. The woman in this thread demonstrates that very nicely: http://smith-wessonforum.com/concealed-carry-self-defense/360543-how-brazen-thieves-becoming.html

She was confronted with 3 thugs breaking into her home. She fired multiple shots, no hits, and 2 of them ran away. The 3rd pulled his gun and went to go back in, she fired more shots. If she would have been limited to just 5 rounds it's very likely that her and her children would be dead. Now I know this happened at a house but it could also happen other places as well.

Finally, I always like to have, "It's better to have and never need than need and not have."
 
my 40c holds 10+1. i generally have the 2nd mag loaded and a full box of 50 in the car. not because i need them, but because my kids stay at my mothers house while i work and that just happens to be where the range is. i do this so i always have a box available in case i make a spur of the moment decision to shoot a little.

when not in the vehicle, it is just the 10+1.
 
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