Is the 40 S&W dieing?

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I went to trade My Ruger GP-100 357 Magnum once and all They would offer was $100.00.
You will never get a fair trade as They are greedy.
 
40 is a good caliber and like everything else in life, we each get to make our own choices. Practice and as someone else mentioned, spring change, make a G23 a good choice. But of course you have to like a Glock too.
 
.40 is in decline?

I must live under a rock.

Almost every officer/deputy I see carries a .45.

Wait..........HP carries .357 SIG (and love it) another "dead" cartridge............and Probation/Parole/Corrections all use .40.

Rarely see a 9mm......oh yeah, the local private university "campus police" use a nine.

What do i know anyway?
 
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I think if the FBI started issuing 22RF pistols a whole bunch of people would immediately start carrying them for defense. I personally don't put much stock in their decisions and have never seen much proof that the FBI is the last word on defensive weapons and tactics. I think most police agencies that switched to the 9m/m did so because of cheaper ammo and recoil sensitive officers could qualify quicker with it.
 
As far as I know the U. S. Coast Guard is the only military service presently using the .40 S&W (If you consider the USCG as being military).
Glock 22 and 35 are issued to some units. I believe EOD and certain special forces.

But it is still used in many gov agencies. Border patrol is one, DEA, IRS, Marshalls, and other smaller agencies

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Incontrovertible photographic evidence that the .40 S&W is already dead:

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As you can plainly see in the picture above, the .40 S&W is so dead that the grips on my .40 Sig P226 have turned blue
 
I think the store owner is correct in some regards. People aren't buying up .40 S&W guns like in the past. I visit two shops locally and they always have the same .40 guns sitting there. The general public buy a ton of .9mm, and the .40 is slowly fading. I'm sure it will always be around, just continue to lose popularity.
 
As far as I know the U. S. Coast Guard is the only military service presently using the .40 S&W (If you consider the USCG as being military).

I think the Border Patrol also uses the 40. Yes, I realize they don't come under the Department of Defense.
 
A large number of Federal civilian agencies use the .40 S&W. But to the best of my knowledge, the only .40 S&W rounds which have been type classified by the military are those for USCG use. I believe they have three (don't remember for sure): one FMJ, one expanding, and one lead-free frangible bullet load for training. I was doing some work with the U. S. Navy's Crane (IN) NSWC location back when they were doing the .40 S&W type classification project for the Coast Guard, but I was not directly involved, so I don't know the details. Plus it was over 10 years ago.
 
I'm not a nut over the .40, but I like it just fine. As stated above, gun/caliber hype by manufacturer's and gun rags (internet too) is what it is really all about. The only .40 caliber gun I've owned and didn't like, was an early G27, that rascal was snappy indeed. I keep an FNX 40 beside my bed and have compete confidence in it and my ability to hit with it.

I'm waiting for the .40's to drop in price some more and plan on picking up another one or two,........ more if they get cheap enough. I like 'em just fine.
 
I think it's far from dead, at least for LE use. But personally I have never been able to warm up to it, and don't own anything chambered for it. And probably never will. Even at a really great price, I'd probably walk away from anything chambered in .40 S&W, as I have no use for one. There may well be many others like me.


.40 leaves me cold....... but about 7/8 years ago I picked up a used Sig 229 with both .40 and .357sig barrels and IIRC 4mags and night sights.....for $500.

It's my only .40 or .357 sig........while I never needed it.... was glad to have it during the "panics" of 2012 and 2013 as the only ammo on the shelves around here was .40 and .357 sig. Now have a small stash of each!
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The .40 really needs a steel gun, a very low bore axis, or preferably both.
Yep. No more .40's in plastic for me... not even in full-size anymore. That's been the house rule for over 2 years now.

That is not to say that the .40 is dead to me. :) Hardly!!! ;) But I do stick to all-metal now. Last one I picked up, a "like new" Model 410, was back in April. :)
 
I am a proud owner of the M&P''s both chambered in 40 s&w.I have not had any problems with accuracy, and the 40 is a fun round to shoot for me
 
The trend now seems to be: 9x19mm &45ACP in the compact frames. When I go to the range to practice, 45cal. and 9mm along with 22LR of course, are mostly what I see shooters using for practice.

I shoot .40S&W along with .380 and 9mm., but I don't see many others shooting 40's. Mine is an SD40ve and I love the way it performs. I had a very long, hard time getting used to it's recoil and bark! It was my first hand gun. I took it to an outdoor range when i first aquired it, shoot 4- rounds and said, Enough of this. It really scared the bejeepers out of me!
Later I took it to my local indoor range, got some instruction and pointers on it and now all's well. I've shot over 1,250 rds. with it and I find it qiute easy to shoot. I keep it for my HD weapon. I have the Shield9 & a BG380 to use as CCW, but I think the 40sd is a little too large to consider for CC. Just MHO.
 
I certainly hope the .40 s&w isn't dying. There are plenty of them available in my local gun shops and sporting goods stores. I love both of mine...the M&P Shield and a Beretta PX4 Storm Compact. To me, the Storm has slightly less recoil, probably due to its heavier weight and rotating barrel. However, IMO, the heavier weight and slightly larger (fatter) size makes it a bit harder to use as CCW, although it conceals just fine under a lose shirt. It does have other advantages that I personally like, such as the ability to decock with a round chambered. Sorry, didn't mean to make this sound like an advertisement for Beretta on a S&W forum. Just pointing out the differences in the two guns. I'll continue to carry both as long as ammo remains available.
 
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Let me just add this: From a pure investment or resale value point of view, with one or two notable exceptions, I wouldn't buy another .40 today (even in all-metal) except at a very attractive price. :)

On the other hand, I've always said that if I were ever (God forbid) in a life or death gunfight, I sure as heck hope I have a .40 in my hands at that time in great preference to a 9mm. :cool:

Yes, I am one of those curmudgeonly old farts who will never quite come around to accepting that a 9mm round will ever be as effective as an equivalent design .40 S&W round. It's a gut feeling kind of thing so don't try to confuse me with facts. :D
 
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I can't say if the .40 is dying, but I'd say it's clearly in retrograde. I follow our statewide classified sites (like Armslist and the outdoors trader) pretty closely, and what I've been observing is lots of folks getting out of .40, and lots of ads stating "nothing in .40" in their list of trade interests.
Also, very often when I take notice of a cool pistol at a particularly nice price, a closer look will show why: it's a .40 instead of a 9mm.
 
I've bought, sold, and traded quite a few firearms, specifically Glocks (some M&P's), and the 40 has never been as easy to sell, nor have I gotten as much for the 40 pistols as the 9mm. Add the FBI switching to 9mm, and the market doesn't exactly favor the 40, that being said, I don't believe it's going anywhere.
 
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