Is the trigger really a safety?
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jag312
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Maybe just a primed case instead of a blank.
RalphMP9FS
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I keep adding all metal, hammer fired semis to my stable, and I'm slowly selling off my remaining striker fired polymers. Striker fired pistols appeal to some, but I'm not one of them.
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Smokey74
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I strongly believe in external safeties and that is why all of my handguns have a thumb safety. Sorry, guess I am "Old School".
Savage calls it a "two stage trigger" on their rifles.
Last year, a local deputy got his keys caught up in the "safety," and his pistol went off in a school parking lot. If you depress the safety, the gun goes off. Some safety.
Last year, a local deputy got his keys caught up in the "safety," and his pistol went off in a school parking lot. If you depress the safety, the gun goes off. Some safety.
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Arik
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What do you do with revolvers
ultratec00
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Technically, a lot of features can be considered a "safety" and advertised as such. If a feature requires little, to no, training to operate, then while it may technically be advertised as a safety, from a tactical perspective, it really isn't. Tactically from my perspective requires a modicum of familiarity and training to operate such that if someone who doesn't have that familiarity/training can't readily misuse the weapon or turn in on the owner. Granted it may only take them a second or two to figure out how to make it go bang, but I'd rather have that second or two to flee or grab an alternate firearm to eliminate the threat.
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Rastoff
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Did you read the earlier posts in this thread?
Didn't know I had to.
To your first question, I certainly do not. To your second, I suspect the purpose served in the Glock is mainly legislative/administrative. The Glock is an import. In the S&W, I have no idea.
George9
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Yes the gun will not fire unless the trigger is pulled! Don't much make a difference how it's pulled.. Sometimes **** happens. It just does!!!This was Police Officer he had training.. I would bet he will get more also that he won't do that again.. he will have more respect for the gun he carries and how he handles it I'm sure. I'm a 1911 kind a guy but I am 100% ok with the designed M&P S&W with out a thumb safety. You need to know ,understand and get plenty on practice with it. Never take what you know for granted... Not to long ago a guy was waiting for his girlfriend to get out of a store and he decided to play with his gun needless to say he put a 9mm round in the thigh while sitting behind the steering wheel parked in a parking lot.. Does this tell you anything? George
But did the Glocks offered to the Austrian military also have the trigger safety?
Deadeye Dick
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You know what they say: It's hard to teach an old wheel gunner... ah, I mean old dog new tricks.
Deadeye Dick
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Don't think of these trigger devices as a "trigger safety" but think of them as a "drop safety" like the transfer bar in many modern revolvers. They both serve the same basic purpose.
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Rastoff
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If you had, you would have seen that it is not designed to prevent the kind of accident you referred to. As Deadeye Dick said, it's a drop safety. It will prevent the gun from firing if dropped on the rear of the slide.
shotgun693
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I've seen the glock trigger safety on an Iver Johnson made in 1887. IF it worked well then glocks would not have so many accidental discharges. And yeah, I had one. I rate it's safety as being about like a condom with a hole in each end.
A drop safety in the middle of the trigger. BRILLIANT!
Deadeye Dick
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Well it does work the way it was intended. Guns with them will not fire if dropped provided the device is not broken or been tampered with.
I've never dropped a gun myself... but I came darn close once. It could happen and to my way of thinking a gun that will not go off if dropped is a good thing.
If you don't like the trigger gizmos perhaps you can invent a better device to accomplish the same thing. Who knows you might even become rich given all the folks who seem to have a hatred of these devices placed in the trigger.
The trigger safety on a Glock is not a drop safety. A plastic trigger attempting to overcome three metal springs will in no way generate enough inertia to complete the firing cycle if if the pistol is dropped on the back of the slide from Mars . . . Glock's drop safety is an entirely different mechanism.
