kcbet2
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Levis, Wranglers and cheap Walmart brands. Relaxed fit works best, but even regular cut works for me. I carry in a Blackhawk #4 that I got at Walmart for less than $10.
Is there such a thing as a 9mm pocket pistol
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Levis, Wranglers and cheap Walmart brands. Relaxed fit works best, but even regular cut works for me. I carry in a Blackhawk #4 that I got at Walmart for less than $10.
captorquewrench
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All these problems compound when you deal with women's clothes. Especially women who don't wear jeans.
Bra holster is an option bit then there are times. Like formals and sun dresses, when that's not a possibility.
Printing and weight and draw becomes even more an issue when your clothes are designed to hug and reveal shape and if they even have pockets, the pockets are terrible for carry. And despite that I still want my gun on my body not in a concealed carry purse.
Having said that, I stick to BG.380 or Sig P238 for carry. Can fit more places and less printing. In up close and personal situation either should get the job done.
Bra holster is an option bit then there are times. Like formals and sun dresses, when that's not a possibility.
Printing and weight and draw becomes even more an issue when your clothes are designed to hug and reveal shape and if they even have pockets, the pockets are terrible for carry. And despite that I still want my gun on my body not in a concealed carry purse.
Having said that, I stick to BG.380 or Sig P238 for carry. Can fit more places and less printing. In up close and personal situation either should get the job done.
I have still found nothing that would make me want to change away from my Walther PPK/S. While it is a bit heavier when loaded than some of the polymer guns, its size make it a breeze to carry in a pocket holster. Plus, I MUCH prefer the exposed hammer along with SA/DA action.
Normally I carry it with the loaded flat plate mag, one in the pipe, safety off, hammer down. First round is a 13 lb DA pull and everything after that is 6 lb SA.
Very smooth, accurate and reliable. Recoil is crisp but still very enjoyable to take to the range.
Bob
Normally I carry it with the loaded flat plate mag, one in the pipe, safety off, hammer down. First round is a 13 lb DA pull and everything after that is 6 lb SA.
Very smooth, accurate and reliable. Recoil is crisp but still very enjoyable to take to the range.
Bob
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Like many here, I've tried multiple autos looking for the perfect pocket pistol. For me the issue was rarely being able to fit the weapon in my pocket it was being able to reliably draw the pistol from my pocket. It was usually fairly easy to draw from cargo shorts or pants but not jeans or slacks.
Eventually I came to this conclusion, for a go anywhere all the time pistol the choices are a .380 or smaller caliper auto or a J frame. I went with a J frame and Glock 42. If I had to choose just one it would be the J frame. As someone stated previously the shape of the J frame makes it much more conducive to a reliable draw from the front pocket of just about any pair of pants. It's shape also adds to it's ability to not print in a way that will tip people off that you are carrying a pistol.
The downsides to a snubby are obviously capacity and the willingness to put in a lot more practice time to become and remain proficient with it.
Eventually I came to this conclusion, for a go anywhere all the time pistol the choices are a .380 or smaller caliper auto or a J frame. I went with a J frame and Glock 42. If I had to choose just one it would be the J frame. As someone stated previously the shape of the J frame makes it much more conducive to a reliable draw from the front pocket of just about any pair of pants. It's shape also adds to it's ability to not print in a way that will tip people off that you are carrying a pistol.
The downsides to a snubby are obviously capacity and the willingness to put in a lot more practice time to become and remain proficient with it.
Bmlove
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I carry a BG 380 in a pocket holster all the time. I've just ordered a new glock 42 .380. Little bigger than the BG but oh what a nice shooter. And still pocket size for me. I don't wear tight pants at all, 240 lbs, 6'1", 42 waist. I will on occasion carry my .38 BG in my front pocket as wheel. But has to be the right size pocket. Love my smiths but unfortunately getting arthritis in my hands and recoil is a problem when practicing.
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pineappleshooter
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Question for you. I cannot pocket carry my PM9 in a front jeans pocket and I wear my pants loose. When you say you carry your 40 Shield in your jeans pocket, is it all the way in your pocket (butt and all) or does the butt stick out? I don't see how people manage to stuff anything that big in their pants.
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.....Caj and sip......no jokes about butts sticking out of jeans!
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Carrying a firearm concealed is not really a one-size-fits-all scenario. If all you have to be concerned about is covering, versus concealing, then the problem is easier solved. Most, however, prefer actual concealment versus merely covering the tell-tale lump of a firearm.
Pocket carry, like carrying in any manner, requires getting used to having the firearm on your person. That is one reason LE academies require students to carry red-handle firearms at all times. It allows them to get used to carrying.
For pocket carry to work, you must wear loose-fitting clothing, and you must be prepared to buy "relaxed fit" in everything so that the extra room can be used to accommodate the firearm.
Levi "pockets" are simply not as deep as required for any type of pocket carry. An LCP/Bodyguard .380 will fit, but not comfortably when you sit down due to where the "bend" is in relation to the pistol. Any larger pistol in Levi brand jeans is too long, regardless of the sitting/bend issue.
Effective pocket carry will require jeans with deeper pockets, if there is such a thing, or some other type of pants. Fortunately, 5.11s as well as Dockers or other types of khakis (whether blue or tan) are tough enough for casual wear and they don't look bad either. Those have pockets sufficient to support the weight of the pistol. Remember that a proper belt is still required, and you have to cinch it up enough to offset the weight of the firearm. That takes some getting used to, but it helps in preventing the pants from riding down under the weight of your pistol.
If you insist on wearing your pants "skin tight" to show your "assets," whether front or back, then obviously, carrying a firearm is secondary to your need for approval, and that presents a whole other set of issues.
Pocket carry, like carrying in any manner, requires getting used to having the firearm on your person. That is one reason LE academies require students to carry red-handle firearms at all times. It allows them to get used to carrying.
For pocket carry to work, you must wear loose-fitting clothing, and you must be prepared to buy "relaxed fit" in everything so that the extra room can be used to accommodate the firearm.
Levi "pockets" are simply not as deep as required for any type of pocket carry. An LCP/Bodyguard .380 will fit, but not comfortably when you sit down due to where the "bend" is in relation to the pistol. Any larger pistol in Levi brand jeans is too long, regardless of the sitting/bend issue.
Effective pocket carry will require jeans with deeper pockets, if there is such a thing, or some other type of pants. Fortunately, 5.11s as well as Dockers or other types of khakis (whether blue or tan) are tough enough for casual wear and they don't look bad either. Those have pockets sufficient to support the weight of the pistol. Remember that a proper belt is still required, and you have to cinch it up enough to offset the weight of the firearm. That takes some getting used to, but it helps in preventing the pants from riding down under the weight of your pistol.
If you insist on wearing your pants "skin tight" to show your "assets," whether front or back, then obviously, carrying a firearm is secondary to your need for approval, and that presents a whole other set of issues.
Totally inside the pocket. It works better in Cabela's trail shorts, but I do have some jeans that can handle it. I think they were Sams Club brand.
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Nano front right of cargo shorts. Kinda big and clowny but that how I like them
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Just came back Academy with some "tactical" shorts on clearance. While there, I looked at a size 42 and size 30 next to each other... and can certainly understand the discrepancy in "pocketability" expressed in this thread.
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I can comfortably carry the Ruger LC9 in the Desantis pocket holster without much problem. It works for most of what I wear but I do like my pants and shorts on the looser side with bigger pockets. I don't wear a lot of jeans so I can't comment on that. Not as good of an option for dress pants which tend to have shallow pockets. I wouldn't want to go much smaller than the LC9 as I wouldn't want to trade off capacity or being able to get a firm grip on it
LimaCharlie
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I wear 34"X32" loose-fit Wrangler jeans. I pocket carried my 3.3" SA XDs-45 in a Ted Blocker horsehide leather pocket holster all weekend with a spare magazine in the watch/change pocket above it. Nobody seemed to notice or care about the bulge in my pocket. It could have been a cell phone. It does not have to disappear to be concealed.
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I swooned over this thing when it came out. Thankfully, I am not one to fall victim to "first on my block". It seems that finding one of these that works is a challenge. Even following their guidelines about ammo, it seems that this little guy is just not quite there as of yet......
martybee
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My vote is for the Kahr MK9. Same size as the BG380. All S.S., Heavier and beautiffuly machined.
Caliber: 9x19mm
Capacity: 6+1, 7+1 (magazine with grip extension)
Overall Length: 5.3"
Barrel Length: 3.0" polygonal rifling; 1 – 10 RH
Height: 4.0"
Slide Width: .90"
Weight (unloaded): Pistol 22.1 ounces,
mb
http://www.kahr.com/Pistols/Kahr-MK9.asp
Caliber: 9x19mm
Capacity: 6+1, 7+1 (magazine with grip extension)
Overall Length: 5.3"
Barrel Length: 3.0" polygonal rifling; 1 – 10 RH
Height: 4.0"
Slide Width: .90"
Weight (unloaded): Pistol 22.1 ounces,
mb
http://www.kahr.com/Pistols/Kahr-MK9.asp
VL, maybe you should not listen so much to others and give one a try for yourself? You may be pleasantly surprised. I have had zero trouble with my Solo, and I might add I have never been one to be able to count on "good luck" being on my side.
Of the small 9mm pistols I own, it is probably the most accurate and maybe my favorite, though I have to admit I also like the Shield and the PM9. Getting back to CL's topic, ALL of these guns are best carried on the belt, IMO. I have low tolerance for a lot of weight in my pockets and I think the idea of drawing a gun with reasonable speed from one's pants pocket is fanciful. I have yet to see anyone do a good job of it 10-times in a row. For myself, I am not comfortable with anything bigger than the mousy little .380s in a pocket, and when doing that I have to begrudgingly accept that fast, reliable presentation is just not in the cards for me.
I disagree that one might as well go to a full-size gun for belt carry. The difference in size and weight between a Solo or Shield 9mm and a fully loaded SIG 226 or M&P9 is considerable. A 1911 even more so. I much prefer a small gun, like the Solo or the Shield, on the belt in a lightweight holster, to a big monster. The big monsters require a big, heavy belt - at least 1-1/2" and preferably 1-3/4", IMO. I usually don't wear belts like that.
So to answer the question simply, NO - there is no such thing as a pocket 9, for me.
JJEH
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Depends on how big your pockets are...
Have a look into
Heizer Defense - Tactical Firearms Manufacturing
and
DoubleTap Defense - Creators of DoubleTap?
Have a look into
Heizer Defense - Tactical Firearms Manufacturing
and
DoubleTap Defense - Creators of DoubleTap?
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