It's over.....maybe

Ladder, Maine Beckons.

The number of people I know that are felons has tripled in the past year. All of them are from NY and NJ.

Some of them are flagrant, others don't even know it yet...
 
A couple moths ago I read that they were delaying the the ammo background because they didn't have the computer infrastructure to handle it (I guess having ammo is like health insurance in more ways than one:D). Anyway.... Can you still buy online after the 15th?
 
ChattanoogaPhil said:
A couple moths ago I read that they were delaying the the ammo background because they didn't have the computer infrastructure to handle it (I guess having ammo is like health insurance in more ways than one:D). Anyway.... Can you still buy online after the 15th?
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No, and in fact many online retailers have already stopped as of Jan 1. In effect, they don't need the infrastrucure as they've achieved their goal.
 
Never underestimate the ingenuity of Americans. So the judge says that quickly inserting a mag into a rifle that contains only 1 "evil" feature constitutes an "assault weapon".
So now a few companies have come out with a device, called MR2 I believe, that allows you to "fix" the mag in place. The device allows a change of mags by opening the action and removing the mag, inserting a new one, closing it up ad getting back in action. It's actually kind of quick, and allows these guns not to be registered or declared illegal, at least until the court challenges run their course.
Oh the irony :), this "fix" allows the guns to HAVE all the evil features that they banned since having a fixed mag no longer makes the weapon classified as an "assault weapon". Reminds me of the 1994 ban when the manufacturers adapted.
So NY goes from fixed stocks, no flash suppressor, etc to having all those features(collapsible stocks, flash hiders, etc) now LEGAL.
Here's the device. Is it perfect? Of course not. BUT, it keeps the guns out of any database until this goes to the Supremes.

AR MR2 Installation Video - Magazine Lock for your AR Rifle/Pistol for "Ban" States (CA CT NY MD) - YouTube
 
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just to give you an idea of what we are dealing with we have a district attorney in central ny saying that the striking down of the 7 round limit only affects western ny in that federal judge's district and the limit will still be enforced in central ny. so one section of the state it will be legal to load to 10 and in central ny no. the rest of the state who knows. the only consoling part of all of this is that Andrew Cuomo has insured that he will never be president by his own doing.
 
MR2 looks like a great alternative.

The ammo purchase scheme sounds like it has the potential to be brutal on price and availability if Internet sellers won't even ship to NY. I figured you'd at least be able to buy on the Net and ship to a registered ammo dealer, then pay a fee to the ammo dealer like a gun transfer. What a mess....
 
Just getting started...

This is the first of the freedoms. A friend of mine refused a flu shot a couple of days ago and her doctor told her it isn't official yet but soon if you refuse a doctors "preventative treatment", they will have to refuse to see you anymore. Also, at the pediatrician they are now asking among their list of questions..."Do you have firearms in the home?". This is in Missouri boys and girls!
I am not a, the sky is falling person, but get ready to fight and invest in our freedoms, all of them, because they are coming for them.
 
ChattanoogaPhil said:
MR2 looks like a great alternative.

The ammo purchase scheme sounds like it has the potential to be brutal on price and availability if Internet sellers won't even ship to NY. I figured you'd at least be able to buy on the Net and ship to a registered ammo dealer, then pay a fee to the ammo dealer like a gun transfer. What a mess....
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You WILL be able to have ammo shipped to an FFL for "transfer" to you for some fee. It was reported that the NYSP had the fee @$10 initially but said it would rise to $20 soon.Of course, dealers will probably charge extra for any "paperwork". The FFL will be taking down your info(?) though, no one really wants that.
I have enough ammo to last me until I find the exit.
 
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Maybe he was

S. Hammer said:
I'm not ready to give up my place in NY yet.
SENATOR GREG BALL ISSUES STATEMENT ON NY SAFE ACT RULING | New York State Senate
New York gun owners & law enforcement invite Governor Cuomo to learn the acronym ?GFYS?
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Seems to me that coming out now with such a statement is effectively playing safe politically. Where was this guy before the law was passes or immediately after it was passed? Why wait till after someone else takes the risk to oppose the law?

Again maybe the guy did speak out publicly prior to this but as often as not political types prefer to jump on someone else's bandwagon rather than risking their own.
 
Mcwsky09 said:
Seems to me that coming out now with such a statement is effectively playing safe politically. Where was this guy before the law was passes or immediately after it was passed? Why wait till after someone else takes the risk to oppose the law?

Again maybe the guy did speak out publicly prior to this but as often as not political types prefer to jump on someone else's bandwagon rather than risking their own.
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To his credit, he was pretty vocal throughout the whole fiasco.
 
I suppose I would have my wife register as an ammo seller. She could buy then sell me the ammo. I'd only pay half price so she could report a loss on her business taxes. :D
 
Hock said:
How can that moron judge say that the seven round limit is unconstitutional because a criminal won't follow it but also insinuate that a criminal will not use any other weapon that is included in that unconstitutional law?
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That Sir, is liberal logic to the fullest.
 
ladder13 said:
You WILL be able to have ammo shipped to an FFL for "transfer" to you for some fee. It was reported that the NYSP had the fee @$10 initially but said it would rise to $20 soon.Of course, dealers will probably charge extra for any "paperwork". The FFL will be taking down your info(?) though, no one really wants that.
I have enough ammo to last me until I find the exit.
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Wait until the next hunting season to see some real logistical chaos.
 
KJP said:
This is the first of the freedoms. A friend of mine refused a flu shot a couple of days ago and her doctor told her it isn't official yet but soon if you refuse a doctors "preventative treatment", they will have to refuse to see you anymore. Also, at the pediatrician they are now asking among their list of questions..."Do you have firearms in the home?". This is in Missouri boys and girls!
I am not a, the sky is falling person, but get ready to fight and invest in our freedoms, all of them, because they are coming for them.
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Granted most people will not even answer that question from a doctor with any response. There is no way for them to confirm a response one way or the other they are just hoping the ones who own guns will answer yes. I'd look for another doctor if I was asked that
 
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