K Diamond Target Stock Fitment

[flundertaker]

Curious if different era stocks fit different era guns? I tried a set of small recess Diamond targets on my 53-2 and the stocks stood noticeably proud on the horns. I tried a set of large recess Diamond targets and they were flush with the top of the frame for a better fit. I suspect the large recess Diamond targets are correct for the gun (K700xxx) but I’m curious why the small recess set didn’t fit.

 

[flundertaker]

Anyone? Surely someone has knowledge about early to mid 60’s stocks.

 

[bigmoose]

Are you sure those are for a K frame? I have read that N frame target stocks would fit onto a K frame, albeit not very well. Just a thought.

 

[chief38]

Truth be told, not all S&W grips fit perfectly. Before they get the serial number stamped on them, I would think the fitters pick a descent fitting set. They probably had bins full and selected an acceptable pair if available. Before CNC equipment, most wooden grips were made on duplicating machines and they do sometimes to out of adjustment. Before that is caught, I would think there would be a certain number of them that slipped by.

There were also plenty of extra grips made for replacements, after market sales and agency's so they could get replaced as needed. Many have probably never seen the steel of a guns frame.

If you are good at woodworking, a larger than normal spec. grip is way better than a scantly fitting set. You can always take wood off and refinish. Adding wood back on is tough.

 

[Vtgw938]

My understanding is that at one time stocks were hand fit to frame before they were finished. But I have found even newer stocks from the 70's & 80's fit differently on different guns especially the grip pin holes.

Best bet is to always assume some adjustment will be needed to get a perfect fit.

 

[weatherby]

Target stocks by design should fit well.
That is a big part of the reason very few were serial numbered to a gun unlike magna stocks which were during that time frame.

Not sure why those aren't
They don't appear to be N's as they would be proud in other areas.
Is there any play to adjust how they are mounted on gun ?

 

[Alk8944]

FWIW "Fitment" is a furniture term, it has nothing to do with how firearms components "fit"! It doesn't mean how things fit in a furniture context either. "fitments" are drawer pulls, hinges, etc. Dictionaries are a wonderful thing.

 

[SG-688]

FWIW "Fitment" is a furniture term, it has nothing to do with how firearms components "fit"! It doesn't mean how things fit in a furniture context either. "fitments" are drawer pulls, hinges, etc. Dictionaries are a wonderful thing.

And the "furniture" on a firearm is not the stock!!

Curiosity caused me to look around as the stock/furniture business is one of my hobby horses.
Context matters and online definitions vary.

1. (Mechanical Engineering) machinery - an accessory attached to an assembly of parts
2. (Furniture) chiefly Brit a detachable part of the furnishings of a room

1: An item of permanent furniture [built in] or equipment.

1: The act of fitting; that which is proper or becoming; equipment.
2: Something that suits or fits.
3: A thing fitted to another in order to accomplish a specific purpose.

Some definitions specify detachable and some permanent. Some say small parts and some say big!!

What a language!!!

 

[Engine49guy]

The advantage of target stocks is they cover the front of the grip frame but I have had to try several K target stocks on a gun to find a set that fit the backstrap or didn't have the horn overhang at the top.

 

[glowe]

About the time they quit stamping everything with serial numbers they also stopped fitting stocks. Pre-WWII was a time when every set of stocks was hand-fit to each gun. The advent of target stocks post-WWII was the start of the end for fitting them to frames. Manufacture became much more accurate and target stock fit was much better, but the shape of the top horn was now up to the guys who finished them before they were put on the finished gun. I believe there was little or no hand-fitting done by the time your revolver was manufactured.

 

[murphydog]

There is probably a lot of individual variation in stocks over time. Wear in the machinery, subtle differences in the location of the stock discs and the locating pin hole, etc. So if you find a nice fitting set for your gun, go for it!

 

[Warren Sear]

FWIW "Fitment" is a furniture term, it has nothing to do with how firearms components "fit"! It doesn't mean how things fit in a furniture context either. "fitments" are drawer pulls, hinges, etc. Dictionaries are a wonderful thing.

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