Keep Shield or upgrade to Sig P365?

[dben002]

Yet Hickok45 had no trouble at all. Too much speculation here without any experience.

Not saying it can't be done, but watch the video again, Hickok45 can not and does not put his left hand completely on the weapon..he can't..does not mean he can't shoot it....in fact, both thumbs are pointing west..Just saying for large hands people it's going to be different.....but you can always shoot it one handed.

 

[BE Mike]

Not saying it can't be done, but watch the video again, Hickok45 can not and does not put his left hand completely on the weapon..he can't..does not mean he can't shoot it....in fact, both thumbs are pointing west..Just saying for large hands people it's going to be different.....but you can always shoot it one handed.

I know that the current thinking is to put that off-hand thumb way out along the slide, but I've never adopted that method of grip. I certainly wouldn't want to shoot a S&W 500 with that grip, covering the barrel/ cylinder gap with my hand! I had to adapt my grip style for my EDC, a Kahr CM9, so as not to inadvertently engage the slide stop. I have sympathy for oversized and undersized folks and their problems getting things to fit. Having said that, not all sizes or shooting techniques fit all circumstances or firearms. We can add on certain things or otherwise have guns customized to some degree to make them work better for us, but in the end we must train with and adjust to the gun. If it can't be done, then one has to look elsewhere. From what I have seen, it looks like this pistol will work for the vast majority of folks. Like everything else in life everything, including doorways are made for the "average" person.

 

[Doug M.]

I can't see how one could call the SIG an upgrade from a Shield. (And I have neither ...)

 

[greeenteeee]

I can't see how one could call the SIG an upgrade from a Shield. (And I have neither ...)

I can and own all 3 makes.

 

[BE Mike]

I can't see how one could call the SIG an upgrade from a Shield. (And I have neither ...)

I own none of the two, but two reasons I see it an upgrade, from what I gather, are superior trigger action and increased magazine capacity with smaller size.

 

[dben002]

I can't see how one could call the SIG an upgrade from a Shield. (And I have neither ...)

I have the Shield 9 and 45. The 9 has 3 mags. The mags hold 9/10/10 rounds (Magguts zeespring's). I have had the Shield platform for over 5 years and trust it completely..So I also do not see the 365 as an upgrade...

 

[Maxshield]

Love my Shields but on my hip is the Sig P365, riding in a Sticky and 124 Gr HST +P
13 of them

...and smaller than the Shield...significantly. Hard not to like.
1005 rounds through ....no issues.

 

[Mountain Walker]

A carry gun must be almost disposable unless you have the money to replace it. I don't see a point in moving from a Shield that works fine to something else that needs gun + more mags + holster as well.

I will save my money for something different.

I like this thinking.

 

[greeenteeee]

I like this thinking.

With this thinking, the rarity of the 365 makes it the worst CCW then. Places are selling out within an hour of receiving them.

Love my Shield but an even easier pistol to conceal AND holds more rounds without aftermarket parts is appealing. I'll have to wait a while before I can get my mitts on one.

I heard when the G43 first came out it was a big deal as well-- how long before it was more readily available?

 

[shawn mccarver]

Seems many are replacing their Shields with the P365 and i will say the 365 interests me and i will look at 1 if i ever see 1!

Anybody here got 1 yet or planning on getting 1?

The 365 may or may not be a good pistol. I think the verdict is still out. Personally, I would not give up a sure thing for an unproven model.

 

[Mister X]

I finally got to handle a Sig p365 today and wasn't all that impressed, especially considering the nonnegotiable $700 price tag on it. While it's amazing they squeezed 10 rounds into that tiny grip, I found the grip to actually be too small and it just didn't fit my hand well. I simply could not get a high, tight hold on it like I can on some other weapons. There was always a fairly substantial gap between the web of my hand and the frame no matter how I gripped it which made it feel top heavy, unstable and unbalanced. This just applies to my specific hand shape since others may have the complete opposite fit and I didn't actually shoot it for a definitive opinion. I also found the mag release extremely difficult to activate and finicky(at least on my example). I don't want a mag release that is overly large or too easily activated on a carry gun, but this one went too far the other way. I also compared it with the Glock 42 & 43 and found the G42 to be an extremely good fit for me and it felt significantly smaller and lighter compared to the p365 and G43. A much greater difference than the specs on paper would indicate IMO. I've never really been a fan of .380, but I think I'm actually going to pick up a G42.

 

[greeenteeee]

I finally got to handle a Sig p365 today and wasn't all that impressed, especially considering the nonnegotiable $700 price tag on it. While it's amazing they squeezed 10 rounds into that tiny grip, I found the grip to actually be too small and it just didn't fit my hand well. I simply could not get a high, tight hold on it like I can on some other weapons. There was always a fairly substantial gap between the web of my hand and the frame no matter how I gripped it which made it feel top heavy, unstable and unbalanced. This just applies to my specific hand shape since others may have the complete opposite fit and I didn't actually shoot it for a definitive opinion. I also found the mag release extremely difficult to activate and finicky(at least on my example). I don't want a mag release that is overly large or too easily activated on a carry gun, but this one went too far the other way. I also compared it with the Glock 42 & 43 and found the G42 to be an extremely good fit for me and it felt significantly smaller and lighter compared to the p365 and G43. A much greater difference than the specs on paper would indicate IMO. I've never really been a fan of .380, but I think I'm actually going to pick up a G42.

Interesting to hear your experience with it. Yes I've seen places price gouging the 365, it's ridiculous. Since you're going towards a 42, is this your first CCW?

 

[Mister X]

Interesting to hear your experience with it. Yes I've seen places price gouging the 365, it's ridiculous. Since you're going towards a 42, is this your first CCW?

No, I usually carry a snub or a G26, but wanted another auto option mainly for when I'm in warmer climates.

 

[mrmike7189]

For the $700 Sig you could get 2 shields, 2boxes of self defense ammo and a holster! Shield for the win!

 

[dben002]

With weapons we all have to do what satisfies a few things.....

our safety
our confidence in the weapon
our proficiency with the weapon
our budget restraints
our needs (does the weapon meet them)....

If the 365 does that for you....indeed go for it.....
The Shields have done that for me for over 5 years....so
I will not be buying a 365 so that's one more available for those who wish to have it......

 

[Jim1392]

For the $700 Sig you could get 2 shields, 2boxes of self defense ammo and a holster! Shield for the win!

People paying this kind of money for this gun are the "I can't wait", "I must have instant gratification" type. I've seen them advertised from $499.00 to $529.00. Not all were in stock but then again you would have to "Wait" for one. It's much like when the Shield came out I paid if I remember correctly $389.00 for mine, but there were plenty available. Look where the pricing on them went. I'm sure when Sig catches up on production this will wind up being a mid $400.00 gun. For me I'm interested, but I'll wait and see where the pricing goes, and after I get to handle one.

 

[BE Mike]

A carry gun must be almost disposable unless you have the money to replace it.

Heaven forbid, if I ever have to fire my handgun in self-defense, I think the last thing that I'll be concerned about is how much I spent for the handgun and how much it will cost me to replace it. Someone once said that there is a law suit attached to every round fired in a self-defense situation. There are compromises in EDC handguns, but within reason, cost isn't one of them. If it were, I suppose that I'd carry the cheapest functioning handgun I could find.

 

[swsig]

...I've never really been a fan of .380, but I think I'm actually going to pick up a G42.

If you haven't actually shot a G42, I suggest renting one at a range and running a box of ammo through it. I did that a couple of months ago, and I was surprised and disappointed by how inaccurate it was. The similarly sized SIG P238 I tried was much better. Maybe the G42 will shoot accurately for you, but it's always good to check it out first.

 

[greeenteeee]

People paying this kind of money for this gun are the "I can't wait", "I must have instant gratification" type. I've seen them advertised from $499.00 to $529.00. Not all were in stock but then again you would have to "Wait" for one. It's much like when the Shield came out I paid if I remember correctly $389.00 for mine, but there were plenty available. Look where the pricing on them went. I'm sure when Sig catches up on production this will wind up being a mid $400.00 gun. For me I'm interested, but I'll wait and see where the pricing goes, and after I get to handle one.

I don't think the MSRP will change. S&W is just lower priced overall. The Glock 43 is around the price of a 365 and it is just as popular as the Shield.

 

[gc70]

... While it's amazing they squeezed 10 rounds into that tiny grip, I found the grip to actually be too small and it just didn't fit my hand well. I simply could not get a high, tight hold on it like I can on some other weapons. There was always a fairly substantial gap between the web of my hand and the frame no matter how I gripped it which made it feel top heavy, unstable and unbalanced. ...

My son picked up a P365 last week and we compared it to our Shields (we both have 9s and he also has a 45). We were very surprised by how the P365 fit our hands. The palms of our hands touch our Shields from the beavertails to the end of the grip frames. The grip of the P365 is curved so that only about the top half of the backstrap touched our palms, which made the P365 feel very unsecure.