It would be more enlightening and helpful to others if you could describe why most striker-fired guns have trigger safeties and how they function in comparison to why some SIG striker-fired guns do not have trigger safeties.
Keep Shield or upgrade to Sig P365?
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It would be more enlightening and helpful to others if you could describe why most striker-fired guns have trigger safeties and how they function in comparison to why some SIG striker-fired guns do not have trigger safeties.
An article about "how to make a gun into a Glock" is not even close to a detailed comparative description.
As i had said before the 12 rd. mag still does not fit my med/small hand comfortable and if some body makes a +2 mag adapter or Sig will make a 14 rd. mag and all bugs get worked out then i may eventually gat one?
Still seems there are many whose have issues with slides staying open no matter what they try!
Still seems there are many whose have issues with slides staying open no matter what they try!
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If neither the 12rnd nor the original 10rnd mags don't work for you, an even longer mag won't help.As i had said before the 12 rd. mag still does not fit my med/small hand comfortable and if some body makes a +2 mag adapter or Sig will make a 14 rd. mag and all bugs get worked out then i may eventually gat one?
Still seems there are many whose have issues with slides staying open no matter what they try!
Just want something that fits my palm a little lower in rear, in most reviews people say that they prefer the 12 rd. mag for better grip.
As i had listed the specs here earlier, my PF9 has 100% same specs as far as length & height goes even the grip as the 365 and to get a 100% good grip on the PF9 i added a +1 mag/grip extension and the PF 9 now fits me perfect.
On my Shield the 7 rd mag my grip is bad, 8 rd grip is so-so, thus i added a +2 mag ext. to the 7 rd. mag and the Shiels now has a great grip to me.
But we all have different size hands likes/dislikes bu me i just don't like having barely a little finger on ft. grip and hardly anything in my palm!
New vid with slide not locking back, which for me is a "No Buy"!
[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUo1Ui25coc[/ame]
As i had listed the specs here earlier, my PF9 has 100% same specs as far as length & height goes even the grip as the 365 and to get a 100% good grip on the PF9 i added a +1 mag/grip extension and the PF 9 now fits me perfect.
On my Shield the 7 rd mag my grip is bad, 8 rd grip is so-so, thus i added a +2 mag ext. to the 7 rd. mag and the Shiels now has a great grip to me.
But we all have different size hands likes/dislikes bu me i just don't like having barely a little finger on ft. grip and hardly anything in my palm!
New vid with slide not locking back, which for me is a "No Buy"!
[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUo1Ui25coc[/ame]
P365 striker issue
I'm a SIG fan, as my Forum name and avatar indicate. I've got three of them, two P320 compacts and a P250 subcompact, and they're all well made, sturdy, and reliable. However, I'd advise anyone considering the purchase of a P365 to hold off for a while. I'm also a member of the SIG Talk Forum, and it appears from the experiences of a number of P365 owners, that there may be a problem with the P365's metal injected molded (MIM) strikers. A couple of aftermarket manufacturers are about to release steel strikers, and the P365-owning SIG Talk regulars can hardly wait to buy them. I suggest that potential buyers head on over to SIG Talk and check out the relevant threads in the SIG Pistol section.
Here's a link:
P250, P320, P365 & P320 X-5 Pistols - SIG Talk
I'm a SIG fan, as my Forum name and avatar indicate. I've got three of them, two P320 compacts and a P250 subcompact, and they're all well made, sturdy, and reliable. However, I'd advise anyone considering the purchase of a P365 to hold off for a while. I'm also a member of the SIG Talk Forum, and it appears from the experiences of a number of P365 owners, that there may be a problem with the P365's metal injected molded (MIM) strikers. A couple of aftermarket manufacturers are about to release steel strikers, and the P365-owning SIG Talk regulars can hardly wait to buy them. I suggest that potential buyers head on over to SIG Talk and check out the relevant threads in the SIG Pistol section.
Here's a link:
P250, P320, P365 & P320 X-5 Pistols - SIG Talk
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"palm a little lower in the rear" sounds like the issue I had before and after having the 365.
I built up the rear backstrap on the Shield and the P365. Shield I owned for a long time before doing it, improved my shooting after I did. Did the 365 immediately.
But when you say you added a +2 to the flush 7rnd Shield and it works better for you still sounds like you want a longer grip? After the 365, my Shield with 8rnd mag reminds me of the G19 at least as far as length.
You definitely have to find what works for you though, it sounded in this thread or others that you already got rid of the Shield.
RE: the slide not locking back-- the Shield slide lock is very low profile-- 365, not so much. Here's some food for thought for you (and yes I know many experienced shooters were having the slide lock issue on YouTube)-- my gf's first session with her 365, it did not lock back 50% of the time. Big concern, right? So the next range session, I loaded up mags w/ a single round in HER mags and it locked back everytime with me shooting it.
Not to mention, she also shot with one of MY magazines and it didn't lock back. That magazine I've shot 700 rounds and it locks back everytime.
This is a vid of my 2nd range sesh with it, locked back 14 times, every time.
[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBiqrDZf00s[/ame]
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That's what I wanted more of as well.In ur picture above 1 can clearly see how angled the p365 grip is angled down up front but nothing in rear where its in the palm and that is where i want more grip for better control.
Have you held the G43? I like the feel of that also though I don't own one. I do shoot a Glock 19 though.
The grip on the 365 is very small in circumference and very "upright" which I don't like, but I'm still giving it a shot. FTR, I won't be selling my Shield, but ease of carry is why I picked up the 365.
Have one of the first P365, born 1/29......2,000+ rounds..no issues. Shoots soft with minimal recovery time allowing very fast follow ups.
When dry firing I noticed that the thumb knuckle, on support hand, in my normal thumbs forward grip rests right on the slide lock....I squeeze hard with left hand which puts it there....
When shooting I pay attention to that and have experienced zero fail to lock back issues.
It's a great shooter, first Sig I have ever touched, 100% confident in it and love the ergos and capacity.
When dry firing I noticed that the thumb knuckle, on support hand, in my normal thumbs forward grip rests right on the slide lock....I squeeze hard with left hand which puts it there....
When shooting I pay attention to that and have experienced zero fail to lock back issues.
It's a great shooter, first Sig I have ever touched, 100% confident in it and love the ergos and capacity.
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I will say that I have only held one, but for me, it's uncomfortable and I find it actually too small. Couldn't get a good grip on it and had difficulty drawing from a holster when testing it. I found it similar to my experience with the G43. The capacity is nice, but just doesn't work for me, so I'll stick with my uber reliable Walther PPS M2.
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MagGuts +2 kits on my 8 round mags already give 10 rounds with my shield. All set, I'd rather go for something really cool, like a CZ custom shop Compact shadow 
someone at my club had one of these all tricked out and man oh man was it sweet
CZ 75 COMPACT SHADOW LINE SA DA - CZ Pistols Shadow Line - NEW FIREARMS
someone at my club had one of these all tricked out and man oh man was it sweet
CZ 75 COMPACT SHADOW LINE SA DA - CZ Pistols Shadow Line - NEW FIREARMS
My LGS will is still waiting for their P365 rental unit, but I did get to play with their 'dummy' model. For me, it didn't feel that great to hold, with either mag.
Maybe it will feel great to shoot. If so, it may be my 1st Sig.
Maybe it will feel great to shoot. If so, it may be my 1st Sig.
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CZ RAMI
Got a CZ RAMI (with decocker, no safety) about a year ago and it immediately became a favorite. Not as thin as the single stacks but it is an awesome piece of hardware. If you like DA/SA for carry (as I do), then IMO this is the holy grail.
Got a CZ RAMI (with decocker, no safety) about a year ago and it immediately became a favorite. Not as thin as the single stacks but it is an awesome piece of hardware. If you like DA/SA for carry (as I do), then IMO this is the holy grail.
Some folks look for that ONE perfect EDC, I have several that I like.
But, since this thread is Shield vs P365, I'll stick to that.
I have carried the Shield for a little over a year. I really like it, and it has many great qualities. I tend to lean to the 8 round mag because it fits my hand well. I walk my dog twice a day, and almost always wear gym pants/shorts. I bought a Bodyguard for that, but it's 6 + 1 rounds of .380 power. For, those walks, the P365 is much better suited. I also like to carry a J-Frame revolver at times, but not in gym shorts.
When I retired, I had more time to start into my gun interests. I also had more money because now is the future I have been saving for. I had no reason to limit myself to just one carry gun. Or to "a few" for that matter.
The P365 will not push the Shield aside. Rather, it will supplement it. Nor will it push the Bodyguard aside.
The Shield seems to be very high on the list of carry guns, and for good reason. The Sig P365 appears poised to join it. Both are fine guns.
My Shield is a M01, as I saw no good reason to upgrade to M02. If S&W borrows from the P365 and .380 Shield EZ for a Shield 9 M03, I would upgrade in a New York minute.
But, since this thread is Shield vs P365, I'll stick to that.
I have carried the Shield for a little over a year. I really like it, and it has many great qualities. I tend to lean to the 8 round mag because it fits my hand well. I walk my dog twice a day, and almost always wear gym pants/shorts. I bought a Bodyguard for that, but it's 6 + 1 rounds of .380 power. For, those walks, the P365 is much better suited. I also like to carry a J-Frame revolver at times, but not in gym shorts.
When I retired, I had more time to start into my gun interests. I also had more money because now is the future I have been saving for. I had no reason to limit myself to just one carry gun. Or to "a few" for that matter.
The P365 will not push the Shield aside. Rather, it will supplement it. Nor will it push the Bodyguard aside.
The Shield seems to be very high on the list of carry guns, and for good reason. The Sig P365 appears poised to join it. Both are fine guns.
My Shield is a M01, as I saw no good reason to upgrade to M02. If S&W borrows from the P365 and .380 Shield EZ for a Shield 9 M03, I would upgrade in a New York minute.
I would like to buy a P365, no one has any. But to me i don't really care that's its a sig..
What i want is smaller, lighter gun that has capacity. I carry a shield but its not that easy to conceal for me.
i also carry a CM9, that is much easier to conceal but really has the minimum amount of rounds i feel i need. The sig answers both those questions. Its a great idea. But i don't look at the mini sig as the same gun as the shield. Shield is bigger and heavier.
What i want is smaller, lighter gun that has capacity. I carry a shield but its not that easy to conceal for me.
i also carry a CM9, that is much easier to conceal but really has the minimum amount of rounds i feel i need. The sig answers both those questions. Its a great idea. But i don't look at the mini sig as the same gun as the shield. Shield is bigger and heavier.
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When they add the manual safety I will be a buyer.
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