Looking at the M&P BodyGuard 38 with the integrated Crimson trace vs a LaserMax sighted 642 or 442. Does anyone have any insight as to the pros and cons of each system. She does not like the Crimson Trace on the grips. Thanks
Laser Sighted Revolver for the Wife
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Double-O-Dave
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Hi Bradbow55:
Welcome to the Forum.
I don't know of very many who are fans of the new Bodyguard revolver. Quite a few people, myself included, are fans of the original Bodyguard revolvers (Model 38, 438, 638, as well as the all steel Model 49 and 649). My EDC consists of a Model 38-0 and a Model 638-1 both equipped with Crimson Trace LG-405 laser grips. I use standard velocity 158gr. loads in each, and I carry an 8 round speed strip loaded with the same ammo. My wife and daughter both prefer the Model 642-1 (also equipped with CT LG-405 laser grips, and loaded with standard velocity 158gr. ammo). They like the simplicity of operation, as well as the lighter trigger pull of the 642 vs any other revolver in my collection. The Model 642 and 442 (same revolver, but in carbon steel) have for the past few years been the top selling handgun by S&W. I think the reasons my wife and daughter cite are among the top reasons why they are best sellers.
Good luck,
Dave
Welcome to the Forum.
I don't know of very many who are fans of the new Bodyguard revolver. Quite a few people, myself included, are fans of the original Bodyguard revolvers (Model 38, 438, 638, as well as the all steel Model 49 and 649). My EDC consists of a Model 38-0 and a Model 638-1 both equipped with Crimson Trace LG-405 laser grips. I use standard velocity 158gr. loads in each, and I carry an 8 round speed strip loaded with the same ammo. My wife and daughter both prefer the Model 642-1 (also equipped with CT LG-405 laser grips, and loaded with standard velocity 158gr. ammo). They like the simplicity of operation, as well as the lighter trigger pull of the 642 vs any other revolver in my collection. The Model 642 and 442 (same revolver, but in carbon steel) have for the past few years been the top selling handgun by S&W. I think the reasons my wife and daughter cite are among the top reasons why they are best sellers.
Good luck,
Dave
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hostler
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I'm ruining any resale here but ethically I feel I have to present my $.02.
Here's my thread about my M&P38 from a couple weeks ago.
http://smith-wessonforum.com/s-w-revolvers-1980-present/504641-m-p-bodyguard-38-problem.html
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Rpg
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Do not buy a bodyguard 38.
If you have, get rid of it.
It is real junk.
Don't put a dime in one.
If you have, get rid of it.
It is real junk.
Don't put a dime in one.
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My daughter is a leftie and shoots her Mod.60 Pro 3" with LG305's.
She probably does modify her grip a bit but it must be subconscious because she has no problem putting the dot where she wants the bullet to go.
She probably does modify her grip a bit but it must be subconscious because she has no problem putting the dot where she wants the bullet to go.
Thanks for all the replies . Looks like she will be getting either a 642 or 442. How do the LaserMax sights stack up against the Crimson Trace grips. She is not crazy about the Crimson Trace grips but may change her mind.
Rpg
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I was taught, and practice, the principal of 'front sight, front sight'. Always focus on the front sight.
lasers have you looking at the wrong thing: you're hunting for the dot on the target instead of looking at the sights which are always where they always are. For these reasons, I don't like them.
They are also one more thing that slows you up.
In sd situations, speed is pretty important, as is not having intervening gadgets to fuss with.
For these reasons, I don't like lasers if the handgun is going to have a sd application.
Can't give you feed back on any specific laser system since I don't like any of them. (I've shot a bunch on other people's guns).
The good news is that you'll save the cost of the gizmo buying a gun without.
lasers have you looking at the wrong thing: you're hunting for the dot on the target instead of looking at the sights which are always where they always are. For these reasons, I don't like them.
They are also one more thing that slows you up.
In sd situations, speed is pretty important, as is not having intervening gadgets to fuss with.
For these reasons, I don't like lasers if the handgun is going to have a sd application.
Can't give you feed back on any specific laser system since I don't like any of them. (I've shot a bunch on other people's guns).
The good news is that you'll save the cost of the gizmo buying a gun without.
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Well, if it was me, I would worry more about getting the wife up to speed with the 642/442, and maybe introduce the laser later. A laser sight is not a novice tool . . .
hostler
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No experience with Lasermax but I've got a couple guns with CT lasers. I think lasers can be a useful tool. I may not have said that a few years ago, before my eyes went bad. If I wake to a bump in the night, without my glasses on, I don't have a prayer of seeing (nevermind focusing on) the front sight. If I'm not wearing my glasses or they get knocked off, without the laser I'm pretty much limited to instictive shooting.
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Double-O-Dave
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Yes, I have one and they don't hold a candle to the Crimson Trace laser grips. I generally pocket carry my J-frame revolvers using DeSantis Nemesis pocket holsters. My main complaint about the Laser Max grips is they are easily activated, and once activated they stay "on" for 30 minutes. You'll go through your batteries pretty quickly in this way. I contacted Laser Max's customer service department about this, and they weren't the least bit interested. I'll never buy another product from that company.
Are the LG-405s too big for your wife? Have you looked at other CT laser grips?
Good luck,
Dave
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