LE handguns and long guns
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Fishinfool
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When I started with the CSP in 1981, the S&W 66, in a "blued" finish, with 125 grain Remington SJHP's was issue. As soon as the 586 hit the market, I purchased one of the first ones off the assembly line, and carried it until we were forced to switch to the Beretta 92fs in about 1985.
Issue shotgun was the Remington 870, with Colt M-16's available in the troop armory for "special occasions".
Back up guns were your choice, as long as they passed the safety inspection conducted by the range Sgt. Walther 380's were popular. I carried one in my boot, along with a four shot mini 22 mag revolver in my pocket.
When I retired from my fed LE job in 2009, we were carrying SIG 40's, along with issue MP-5's, and M4 carbines. The 870 with #4 buck was still the shotgun of choice.
Larry
Issue shotgun was the Remington 870, with Colt M-16's available in the troop armory for "special occasions".
Back up guns were your choice, as long as they passed the safety inspection conducted by the range Sgt. Walther 380's were popular. I carried one in my boot, along with a four shot mini 22 mag revolver in my pocket.
When I retired from my fed LE job in 2009, we were carrying SIG 40's, along with issue MP-5's, and M4 carbines. The 870 with #4 buck was still the shotgun of choice.
Larry
Texas Star
US Veteran
CSP? I can think of several possibilities, but you said federal. Customs of some sort?
LaVistaBill
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LE Handguns & Long Guns
Geez...I've been packing some kind of badge since 1976, so lets see...my first duty handgun was a S&W M&P .38, followed by a Model 19, then for a short period an issue Colt Police Positive Special .38 and then back to a Model 19. Next I did some alternating between a Model 66 and a Model 14. My next issue handgun was a stainless Ruger Security Six and later a privately owned Model 24. Next was an issue Model 686 (CS-1), then a Model 6946 9mm, followed by a Glock 17 and at last a H&K P2000 in .40 caliber that I'll be turning in the end of November when I retire. For long guns an old Ithaca Model 37 pump, various Remington 870's and for a couple of years a Ruger Mini-14 in .223 while working the border.
Geez...I've been packing some kind of badge since 1976, so lets see...my first duty handgun was a S&W M&P .38, followed by a Model 19, then for a short period an issue Colt Police Positive Special .38 and then back to a Model 19. Next I did some alternating between a Model 66 and a Model 14. My next issue handgun was a stainless Ruger Security Six and later a privately owned Model 24. Next was an issue Model 686 (CS-1), then a Model 6946 9mm, followed by a Glock 17 and at last a H&K P2000 in .40 caliber that I'll be turning in the end of November when I retire. For long guns an old Ithaca Model 37 pump, various Remington 870's and for a couple of years a Ruger Mini-14 in .223 while working the border.
webley green
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Commission in 1976. We had to buy our sidearm I first carried a Colt Trooper and later a S&W Model 66, both were 4". I also had a Colt Detective Special for bailiff and transport. We carried dept issued Remington .38 + P HP ammo. Shotguns were all 12 guage Remington 870s, some blued, some parkerized, some with long magazines others standard length.
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Ain't it the truth.....
And,......it's an old habit that is difficult to break.......There is a nice old Express with forged parts and aluminum trigger group, with a rifle sighted barrel behind the seat of my truck. They work and work very well...
Of course, these days, a AR-15 is its companion......
and we still have 870's in our cars today.
As far as the 870 is concerned, I do not think you can find a better pump gun, maybe some{Mossberg} that are very good, just not better. It is interesting to see in my own hometown that the shotgun has been replaced in all the squad cars with M-4's and is only carried in supervisor's cars{ in addition to M-4,s}. The 870 12Ga's proved too hard to train small framed officers , how's that for PC language, to use effectively. I find it interesting all the interest in the " new" use of patrol rifles. Look at any pictures of the old west early 1900's and lawmen of all stripes used lever action as well as rem. Model 8's and Win. Model 1907 351's. Move forward to the 1960's and look at the pictures of civil unrest and the M1 Carbines were everywhere. Patrol rifles are hardly "new". all my best, Joe.
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"Small Framed Officers".....well
I remember in the 1960s that the Texas DPS had a minimum and maximum weight per inch of height. If I remember correctly, it was a 1.5 lb. minimum and a 2.5 lb. maximum. With,...a minimum height requirement. There were no 4'11", 90 lb. troopers in those days.....yeah, they can work, but I'd prefer my partner be about 6'2" and 225 lbs., and hopefully played linebacker for the Cowboys, and boxed in the Golden Gloves, with a 175 IQ. But, that's just me....
I remember in the 1960s that the Texas DPS had a minimum and maximum weight per inch of height. If I remember correctly, it was a 1.5 lb. minimum and a 2.5 lb. maximum. With,...a minimum height requirement. There were no 4'11", 90 lb. troopers in those days.....yeah, they can work, but I'd prefer my partner be about 6'2" and 225 lbs., and hopefully played linebacker for the Cowboys, and boxed in the Golden Gloves, with a 175 IQ. But, that's just me....
My Father would be 98 this July .... was a police officer ( Patrolman to Captain) 1938 to 1976...... is that Senior enough?
From 1939 into the mid-60s his "primary" gun was a 6" Colt New Service in .357 magnum; worked over by Kings Gun works in Calf. backed up/off duty by a Colt Detective special, he had a couple of Colt .25s.
He also had a 4" S&W M&P dating from 1946 that saw a lot of use.
I got into the "armory" a couple of times in the 60s and early 70s .... Mt Lebanon was/is a affluent suburb of Pittsburgh.... so there was a lot of stuff...... but what I remember was a rack of about 6-8 Thompson sub-machine guns.
When I was about 12-14 I was in the Dept. at shift change (4PM)when a bank alarm went off (bank was about 6 buildings down the street). About 15-20 guys bailed out of roll call .......... the last 2 out the door had Thompsons!!!!! Dad pulled that big old Colt out of his bottom desk drawer and said...... "I'll be back!"
All that were left in the office were me and the dispatcher.....
From 1939 into the mid-60s his "primary" gun was a 6" Colt New Service in .357 magnum; worked over by Kings Gun works in Calf. backed up/off duty by a Colt Detective special, he had a couple of Colt .25s.
He also had a 4" S&W M&P dating from 1946 that saw a lot of use.
I got into the "armory" a couple of times in the 60s and early 70s .... Mt Lebanon was/is a affluent suburb of Pittsburgh.... so there was a lot of stuff...... but what I remember was a rack of about 6-8 Thompson sub-machine guns.
When I was about 12-14 I was in the Dept. at shift change (4PM)when a bank alarm went off (bank was about 6 buildings down the street). About 15-20 guys bailed out of roll call .......... the last 2 out the door had Thompsons!!!!! Dad pulled that big old Colt out of his bottom desk drawer and said...... "I'll be back!"
All that were left in the office were me and the dispatcher.....
Fishinfool
Member
CSP= Conn State Police. Went to a Fed job in 1989. CSP issued a stainless model 66 with a "blackened" finish, meant to imitate a blued gun. I am not sure what the name of the finish was, but it was not all that durable. A lot of the guns had a ratty look from holster wear, even though they were mechanically sound. They are probably collectors items now...
Larry
We used Winchester Model 97's. Short barrel, bayonet lug.
Ever have to "fix bayonets?"
Personal S&W Model 58 sidearm from 1966 to 1979. Issue 870 with rifle sights in front of the seat and a personal Armalite AR-180 under the headrests.
Personal scoped Remington 300 H&H magnum rifle in the trunk.
Personal scoped Remington 300 H&H magnum rifle in the trunk.
safearm
US Veteran
In the first department (1977-78), you bought your own. Initially a Model 36, then a Colt GM .38 Super; High Standard shotgun in the car.
Second department (1978-84), issued a Model 15, had to carry it until after probation period, then I carried a 4 inch Colt Python I received in trade from a detective who had to have my 2 1/2 inch Model 66. Remington 870 in the car.
Last department (1993-2007) started with buy your own, Model 4566, later issued Glock 21 with Model 642 BUG. Remington 1187 and Colt M4 in the car.
Second department (1978-84), issued a Model 15, had to carry it until after probation period, then I carried a 4 inch Colt Python I received in trade from a detective who had to have my 2 1/2 inch Model 66. Remington 870 in the car.
Last department (1993-2007) started with buy your own, Model 4566, later issued Glock 21 with Model 642 BUG. Remington 1187 and Colt M4 in the car.
SAFireman
Member
Joe,
I am far from senior, old, or retired, but at the academy I carried a Sigp229 in 357 Sig, and a 11-87 Police. In the trunk was a 308 FN FAL and in my pocket was a AMT 45 ACP backup.
Thanks for bringing it up again, I am a fan of LE guns, stories, and ephemera
Missed this thread way back in 2014...
...but I first carried a Model 10, heavy barrel, and an 870.
Later a H&K P7-M13 and a Mini-14, stainless.
Never a second handgun.
Be safe.
...but I first carried a Model 10, heavy barrel, and an 870.
Later a H&K P7-M13 and a Mini-14, stainless.
Never a second handgun.
Be safe.
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