Just curious papajohn, are you using the Hornady hand tool because of the change in design of the LEE model?
I got tired paying for the postage to ship broken parts back to Lee so I could get my replacement parts for free. One of my local gunshops had the Hornady unit on clearance, so I snagged it. It has features I like better than the Lee system (Bigger tray, standard shellholders, more ergonomic design, STEEL components) but I've been using the Lee for decades and know it pretty well. I now tend to use the Lee for my 45ACP brass (far fewer tight primer pockets) and the Hornady for anything that needs a little extra force used, like S&B brass.
"Time to look at other brands I guess- Lee seems to be the Harbor Freight of reloading these days-Cheap and poor quality"
Lee has been bashed for years for making cheap equipment. I have yet to see an actual problem with the presses themselves, they're plenty sturdy. I've done case-forming on my antique 3-hole turret press, and the weakest link that day was the 150-pound bench it was bolted to, the press worked fine. The problem is usually the stuff they attach to their presses, either poorly designed or poorly executed. At this point I'm pretty well convinced that for batch-loading, Lee is the way to go, on the cheap. If you want a true Progressive, get a Dillon. There are few "in-between" solutions that work very well.
I just like batch loading because I don't trust anything mechanical to work 100% of the time, especially when it's doing things like seating primers perfectly or dropping the correct amount of powder. When you batch load, you KNOW those things are perfect, because you took a moment and checked it. I shoot with too many Dillon users to believe all their ammo is perfect, I've seen the issues they've had. I might someday get a Dillon, but it will be for ONE caliber only, and I will have every safeguard available installed. I learned a long time ago that as soon as you trust a machine, and turn your back on it, that's when it slips a cog or jumps the tracks, and it can take several headaches and a lot of backtracking to put things right. I am not a fan of breaking down ammo, either. By batch loading, I no longer have to worry about things like that.
