LGS won't show take down on a gun?

[Camster]

I wouldn't get too wound around the axle at all if a clerk wouldn't disassemble something for me until I purchased it. Like others have pointed out, lots of possibilities: Don't want to break or scratch it, don't know how, don't think you're all that interested in buying it here, etc. Seems reasonable to me.

When I enter a gun shop with a purchase in mind,I already know which model I want to buy.I either know disassembly or I will learn it on my own.And whatever that disassembly may be,it is,what it is.The deal doesn't pivot on what it may be,or a clerk's explanation.It's a simple business transaction,no need to pout,or be so thin skinned if the clerk doesn't bend over backward for you.If it's the gun that you want,and the dealer has it,you're only depriving yourself if you don't buy.

 

[Trons]

Tron,

What are you talking about... the only tirade I see is yours... seems you ought to reread the post above when you wake up from your 2:30am TIRADE...

You're right. I came across like a douche and I apologize. I guess his comment about "morons" asking for a cheaper price, like covering the tax, and then saying his boss made more money then God, then trying to back his original comment about not asking for a discounted price by explaining the markup process got under my skin.

I, for one, have not had to ask for a discount at a LGS because both guns I've bought have been from Gander Moutain, and the price matched KYGUNCO's sales price so I felt I was already getting a great price.

Again, I apologize for being a douche.

 

[N4KVE]

Hey no problem. If I quote a price of $489 + tax, & the guy replies how about $469 + tax, we're cool with that, but to think we don't have to charge tax because a gun show is the same as a flea market is wrong. We all have bad days from time to time. Have a good weekend. GARY

 

[Trons]

Hey no problem. If I quote a price of $489 + tax, & the guy replies how about $469 + tax, we're cool with that, but to think we don't have to charge tax because a gun show is the same as a flea market is wrong. We all have bad days from time to time. Have a good weekend. GARY

Since thread has been derailed, I was in a LGS/Pawn shop this weekend and he had a compact that I was eyeballing. He asked if I wanted to see it, and I said "not really, wife hasn't released the funds for a new gun yet." he pulled it out and said, here, just hold it. This is a different LGS then the one I mentioned in the original post.

I picked it up, and DANG, if I wasn't tempted. I asked the price and he said it was $370. I asked if that was solid and he said, tell you what. I'll make it $370 and I'll cover the tax. To me, doing some quick math in my head, that made it $348 + tax. Yes, I was thinking about this thread when he said that.

At this point, I don't have approval for the purchase so I had to walk away. I will say that I had not been in the place before. I wasn't even aware it existed since I don't spend a lot of time on that side of town.

I would also like to point out, that I'll never ask to take down a gun in a store again.

 

[one eye joe]

S&W has a take-down video on the Compact on their website... looks easy

Ruger .22s have a long reputation of being hard (PITA) to put back together.

As to the bigger question ..... on a new gun I can't blame a LGS..... As an example think about all the Colt 1911s with the slide stop scratch/"smiley" ..... you've seen over the years.

Used guns are a whole different matter...... for example I won't buy a used blue gun without being able to look under the grips........ seen a lot with hidden rust!

I AGREE WITH BAM-BAM. YOU SHOULD NOT EXPECT AN LGS TO TAKEDOWN A GUN FOR YOU UNTIL YOU OWN IT. LOOK AT THE MANUAL, IF YOU NEED TO KNOW HOW IT COMES APART. WHY SHOULD HE RISK SCRATCHING A NEW GUN FOR A TIRE KICKER ? ? ? IF HE HAS A USED ONE ON THE SHELF, ASK HIM TO TAKE THAT ONE APART, IF YOU REALLY NEED TO SEE IT DONE. I HAVE BEEN BUYING GUNS FOR OVER 50 YEARS, AND I HAVE NEVER HAD THE NEED FOR AN LGS TO DISMANTLE A GUN, TO SHOW ME HOW IT'S DONE. I DEFINITELY WOULD NOT TAKE APART A RUGER MARK PISTOL, JUST BECAUSE IT IS SUCH A PITA---NEW OR USED--UNLESS YOU BOUGHT IT FIRST. IF THAT QUEERS A DEAL FOR YOU, SO BE IT. IF YOU'RE LOOKING FOR CARD TRICKS AND ENTERTAINMENT, GO TO A CARNIVAL……..

 

[A.O.]

So much adoo about nothing...

And do all you naysayers really scratch the **** out of your guns everytime you take them down? A little practice seems in order maybe.

 

[pvs-1959]

If I can't see the gun taken down or feel the trigger why shouldn't I save myself 20% and buy it online instead of at the LGS?

Exactly this.

 

[A.O.]

AND... you guys talk about not racking the slide, or swinging the cylinder open... I would not hand someone a gun to look at with out doing either, need to show them an empty chamber.. either while I was selling guns, or at my house.. always show an empty chamber before handing it off.

 

[N4KVE]

Our revolvers have the cylinder held closed with a nylon tie wrap so a round can not be loaded. This is a requirement by the gun show promoter for safety. Also prevents the scratch on the cylinder. GARY

 

[tonesurfer]

How dare you ask to inspect a firearm prior to purchase?

Please see here:

http://smith-wessonforum.com/smith-wesson-m-p-pistols/394501-sw-shield-slide-cracked.html

 

[hoc9sw]

Why and should are all questions. If the LGS does not allow field stripping a firearm before purchase, it is their right as a business.

It is also our right to go elsewhere. But bought on the internet? I don't trust much of anything done on the internet. Then you put your local FFL in the middle. Would he be to blame? No.

Going back to the factory is the appropriate path for the slide issue at this point. Either dealer or owner will have to do it.

I don't see how his slide experience changes the discussion of what the LGS will / will not allow. Perhaps it changes what we as purchasers should assume.

 

[A.O.]

Our revolvers have the cylinder held closed with a nylon tie wrap so a round can not be loaded. This is a requirement by the gun show promoter for safety. Also prevents the scratch on the cylinder. GARY

But I believe YOU are the only one talking about gun shows here and they have their own sets of rules..

This is referring to a local store.. different stuff.

 

[tonesurfer]

I don't see how his slide experience changes the discussion of what the LGS will / will not allow.

The way I see it is simple. If LGS allows the customer to field strip and inspect the gun before doing the paperwork and paying for it this problem is likely discovered and then the customer can select another gun and walk away happy - he got what he paid for.

The alternative is what we see here, a customer with a useless gun, a hole in his wallet, and having to hassle with returning it to the manufacturer themselves, instead of having the LGS/Dealer network handle it. Nobody wins here. Manufacturer gets a bad rep. LGS/Dealer comes off as shysters/snake oil/used car salesman. Customer is rightfully pissed off.

 

[N4KVE]

But I believe YOU are the only one talking about gun shows here and they have their own sets of rules..

This is referring to a local store.. different stuff.

But we do NOT remove the ties when the guns go back to the store after the show. So yes, they are tied up until they are sold. Keeps them scratch free, & safe. GARY

 

[A.O.]

But we do NOT remove the ties when the guns go back to the store after the show. So yes, they are tied up until they are sold. Keeps them scratch free, & safe. GARY

So some one looking to buy cannot truly inspect them then, right?
I'd say you can keep them, but that's me..

 

[N4KVE]

It keeps the wear ring off the cylinder, & that makes customers happy. Used guns however can be fondled, as they already have the ring. GARY