Liberty safes

[BearBio]

I bought two of the Centurion Models at Lowes. Included delivery which made it the cheapest. Was only curbside but the delivery guy took it as far as the garage. We installed them in a space that had 1/4 inch clearance. We (a buddy and I) were only able to get it into the back yard. We hired the local furniture movers to get it into the house.

They are bolted down, and have 1/4 inch clearance on the top. To get them our, they will have to remove the closet. When we finish remodeling and install the new floor, there will be a 1/2 inch lip in front of them.

I also have a Freedom Security (by Liberty) in my office that keeps a few firearms and cameras, papers, etc.

No complaints on any of them.

 

[Marine Corps Air]

Liberty Safes

After speaking with several firearm owners in my area plus two gunsmiths, I went with the Liberty Lincoln model. I did commit the cardinal sin - I bought too small!

Liberty Safes are made in the U S A, they have a lifetime warranty, and they have outstanding Customer Service. If there is a problem, Customer Service will be your best ally!

Google "David's Gun Room" in Norcross, GA. The shop is a Liberty safe dealer and they deliver. I know they deliver out of town, though I am unsure how far. It will not hurt to ask.

I also bought mine from David's Gun Room. I spoke with David about a second Lincoln (same size) model, or a larger one. He mentioned that he does go out of state for deliveries. I believe that my delivery costs were about $200.00. I'm about 25 miles from David. It was worth every cent to allow David to do the work. He has all of the equipment that will be needed, plus the experience. Most Liberty safes start at just under 1,000#. If that weight shifts on either you or your friends you could have some huge medical expenses, and a lifetime of medical problems. Let the professionals do what they do best!

 

[Rastoff]

Liberty Safes are made in the U S A, they have a lifetime warranty, and they have outstanding Customer Service. If there is a problem, Customer Service will be your best ally!

Not all Liberty Residential Security Containers (RSC) are made in the US. The Centruion line is made in China.

The Fat Boy and Fat Boy Jr. are made in the US.

 

[mbliss57]

We bought our Liberty Colonial 20 (25 gun) at Fin Feather & Fur. Free deliver and install within 50 mole radius. I was going to buy the Fatboy..but the Colonial was on sale for $699 delivered. . I measured every which way and decided on the smaller because it was as cheaper to buy 2 Colonial 20s than the Fat Boy. I have the option of having them in different areas of the house. Smaller footprint.. And I just bought the 1 as it was all I needed at the time. It's actually time to look for another. This was taken well over 2years ago.. when I first bought it. I have racks and hangers to increase capacity,I had to move the long guns to make room for other handguns. I am considering buying 2 more safes. One for more handguns and one for long guns alone. SO far I would go back to Liberty. I did notice the same safe at Gander M was hundreds of $$$ more than at Fin F F. (But that is an Ohio store)

 

[DR505]

I've got the Fat Boy Jr. as well...got it through Lowe's on veteran's Day (10% additional off). Saved $450 off the MSRP.

My issue: RADIANT HEAT. How on earth do I bolt it to the floor without springing a leak?

 

[bgrafsr]

I bought the Fatboy Jr also, but my buddy said I should have gotten the Fatboy. He was right.

Got it a the local Gander Mountain and hired a guy, who had cards at the store, deliver it and put it in the basement for me.

 

[Badger Matt]

Love my Liberty. Bought it in '98 and moved it from IL to SC to KS to AK to VA to PA to FL to CA to SC (to be fair a bunch of whiny movers did it)...she's got some scratches but works like a charm.

 

[gregintenn]

I have a Liberty safe as well as a Cannon safe. I'm now contemplating a third one. You won't go wrong with a Liberty. If I do get another one, it'll be a Liberty.

Get one much larger than you think you'll need.

 

[427mach1]

Is it just me or is there a "buy big" theme here?

 

[ladder13]

I've got the Fat Boy Jr. as well...got it through Lowe's on veteran's Day (10% additional off). Saved $450 off the MSRP.

My issue: RADIANT HEAT. How on earth do I bolt it to the floor without springing a leak?

Looks like Lowes has stopped selling Liberty safes.

 

[DR505]

Looks like Lowes has stopped selling Liberty safes.

By George you are right. I wonder why they quit?

 

[Harkrader]

I echo the comments about buying one bigger than you think you need.
Also, the advice to look for a blem or remainder. I saved by buying a demo.
As to moving them, *I* would never try it, but I was surprised when the movers showed up with a flatbed and NO tools! They slid it down a ramp onto 1" diameter PCB (PCP? The plastic ones) pipes. They rolled it to our front step and then up onto 2" and then 3" pipes before rolling it onto 3" ones again to get to the door. Once inside, they put it on 1" pipes again and used them all the way to the installation point. It was very easy to push.
For stairs? Different story. I saw a neat device that actually hydraulically descended and climbed the stairs. Amazing.

 

[David harleyson]

I've been looking at a Winchester but only because that is the only model that shows to have both 110v receptacle and an Rj-45 network jack. Do the Liberty models offer these options?

I have a liberty safe with a mechanical lock, which works fine and a winchester with a digital lock. On the winchester the lock went bad after only about 2 yrs. I called winchester and asked to purchase the lock, and they informed me they no longer sold parts, that I would have to get it through a lock smith. I have contacted 2 lock smiths and they are not interested in ordering it for me. Needless to say, one safe is for security and one is for storage. I am not happy with my winchester safe.

 

[Rastoff]

My issue: RADIANT HEAT. How on earth do I bolt it to the floor without springing a leak?

I'm not clear on the issue here. How is radiant heat related to leaking?

There are 4 holes in the floor of your safe. Once bolted down properly, nothing will leak through those holes.

 

[jframe]

Bought the Fatboy Jr. today and got $35.00 rebate in store on it, and another $35.00 I have to mail in to Liberty when it's delivered. Going to bite the bullet and pay the $250.00 for set up. The house we live in is rented property from a friend of mine, and I'm not too wild about drilling into his hardwood floors that are probably 100 years old. May reconsider doing that when I get a chance to talk to him about it first. Right now, just waiting to get it here. I realize that the gun count on most safes is more or less b.s., but it's not really an issue with me, since my long guns only number four. Mostly S&W's and a lone Browning.

 

[Kanewpadle]

Be careful where you place the safe and pay attention when they move it in the house. They don't build houses like they used too. But the floors in many 100 year old homes were never built with floors to hold that kind of weight. See if there is a crawl space and take a look.

 

[427mach1]

I put 4 furniture sliders under my safe and was surprised how easy it was to slide the safe around on my laminate floor. Thick carpet would probably be a different story, however.

 

[Rastoff]

Be careful where you place the safe and pay attention when they move it in the house. They don't build houses like they used too. But the floors in many 100 year old homes were never built with floors to hold that kind of weight. See if there is a crawl space and take a look.

It shouldn't be a big problem. The safe weighs in at 760lbs. Because that weight is spread out over the entire safe foot print, this means that there is about 100lbs per sq foot. That's less than an average person standing up.

 

[Rastoff]

Going to bite the bullet and pay the $250.00 for set up.

This is wise. You could move it yourself, but this way it will be put in properly. One thing a lot of people don't think about is leveling the safe properly. That will make the door much easier to operate. The pros will do this as part of the service.

 

[MrTrolleyguy]

Local Gander Mountain has one. My biggest issue is getting it delivered. I could probably round up a friend or two to help do it, but I'm 44 years old, and my back and other areas are worth enough to me to pay to have it done.

Professional safe movers might be worth the money. They will lay out plywood to prevent damage to floor. Locally a fellow cracked all his tile flooring moving a big Liberty safe. They have lift gates and motorized dollies that even climb stairs. Save you back. Your health is priceless. JMO

 

[nedlate]

Bought the Fatboy Jr. today and got $35.00 rebate in store on it, and another $35.00 I have to mail in to Liberty when it's delivered. Going to bite the bullet and pay the $250.00 for set up. The house we live in is rented property from a friend of mine, and I'm not too wild about drilling into his hardwood floors that are probably 100 years old. May reconsider doing that when I get a chance to talk to him about it first. Right now, just waiting to get it here. I realize that the gun count on most safes is more or less b.s., but it's not really an issue with me, since my long guns only number four. Mostly S&W's and a lone Browning.

You'll be doing good with only 4 long guns! I also have the Fatboy Jr. and am happy with it but the entire front row is useless for rifles unless you turn them sideways ect. I had to move the safe recently-cut up some thick wall plastic pipe into 24" pieces and then just put more in front of the safe as I rolled it, even went around a corner. Wasn't too hard even by myself.
Ed

 

[Jeff423]

I'm not clear on the issue here. How is radiant heat related to leaking?

There are 4 holes in the floor of your safe. Once bolted down properly, nothing will leak through those holes.

He is worried about hitting a radiant heat line in the floor when he drills the holes for mounting.

Jeff

 

[SJshooter]

Liberty Safes are great. But that photo of the destroyed safe that someone tried to break into is a bit deceiving. These safes can be (relatively) easy to get into if you go through the side and have enough room to swing a fire axe. The doors are thick and look most impressive, but the sides and back are generally 12 or 14 gauge steel, which is not exactly Fort Knox and will succumb to sharp blunt force quickly. My advice would be to get one that is much bigger than you think you need (you will be surprised what finds its way in there once you get one). And to bolt it down or to a back wall. If you can put it in a confined space, all the better. The two ways someone is going to have a MUCH easier time getting in is if they can tip it over and/or have wide access to the sides.

If you can get it wired for lights, DO IT. You will not be sorry. If they can put a power strip in, you can also install a dehumidifying bar and keep that plugged in, too.

Another piece of advice is to get a dial lock over the digital. The digital need battery replacements (and probably at the worst possible time) and in my opinion looks a bit tacky on such an otherwise high-end piece.

Final word of advice is to hide it away. These things are real lookers, and the temptation is to put it in the house where you can show it off. Huge mistake. Keep it away from windows and where visitors will never see it. When someone sees a big safe (through a window, especially), their minds starts racing wondering what is so valuable that is inside. It is just too much temptation for some people, and may even make you a target for a more serious burglary. Hide it!

Here are some snaps from when I got mine about 7 years ago:

I got the large one pictured above. We had a few break-ins in our neighborhood and I thought that would be PLENTY big for my three-gun collection, a couple of laptops, and maybe some important documents. I wish I had a current pic! The gun collection has swelled to nearly 20 guns plus rifles, and the safe is PACKED with valuables, AR clips, Glock mags, holsters, S&W boxes, documents, jewelery, and countless things my wife has crammed in. You definitely should buy twice the space you think you need. Oh to have the space I had then! The safe above is about 5.5 feet tall and if I had to do it again I would have found a way to pay for one twice the size.

 

[Rastoff]

Liberty Safes are great. But that photo of the destroyed safe that someone tried to break into is a bit deceiving.

It's not deceiving at all. In fact, it's the perfect example of how good a safe can be when properly installed.

I already mentioned that the safe was bolted down. What I didn't mention, is that the safe was in a place where the criminal couldn't get to the sides or back. The left side was up against a wall so, it couldn't be pried on easily.

I also included the anecdote about the other guy to show that if it isn't bolted down, the security is seriously compromised.

The installation is just as important as any other aspect of the safe.


As for the electronic lock, it makes no difference. They are equally secure. The battery is replaceable from the outside. So, if it dies, just put a new one in. Looks are subjective and individual.

The best aspect of the electronic lock is ease of use. The combination can be set to anything the user wants. And, if you want to give someone temporary access, it can have multiple combinations. Also, the combination can be changed periodically by the user. The dial combo cannot.

 

[Kanewpadle]

It's not deceiving at all. In fact, it's the perfect example of how good a safe can be when properly installed.

I already mentioned that the safe was bolted down. What I didn't mention, is that the safe was in a place where the criminal couldn't get to the sides or back. The left side was up against a wall so, it couldn't be pried on easily.

I also included the anecdote about the other guy to show that if it isn't bolted down, the security is seriously compromised.

The installation is just as important as any other aspect of the safe.


As for the electronic lock, it makes no difference. They are equally secure. The battery is replaceable from the outside. So, if it dies, just put a new one in. Looks are subjective and individual.

The best aspect of the electronic lock is ease of use. The combination can be set to anything the user wants. And, if you want to give someone temporary access, it can have multiple combinations. Also, the combination can be changed periodically by the user. The dial combo cannot.

I agree with everything except the electronic lock. They are ALL junk!

Sorry, but I get a call at least once a month when they fail. Usually with the door shut. They are all made in China and poorly made at that. Yet nobody listens.

Convenient yes. Secure, no. Reliable, no.

 

[DR505]

I'm not clear on the issue here. How is radiant heat related to leaking?

There are 4 holes in the floor of your safe. Once bolted down properly, nothing will leak through those holes.

He is worried about hitting a radiant heat line in the floor when he drills the holes for mounting.

Jeff

Exactly...I'm concerned I'll cut one of the pipes inside the concrete floor. If that happens, I'll be buying a college education for the plumber's kid.

 

[Rastoff]

Exactly...I'm concerned I'll cut one of the pipes inside the concrete floor. If that happens, I'll be buying a college education for the plumber's kid.

Do the pipes extend into the closets? Garage?

 

[Bourget117]

I have this exact safe. It's not big enough.

Based on the reported number, 48, I should be able to get 24 long guns on one side; I can't, you can't, no one could. If you didn't have any scopes or pistol grips or guns longer than 50.5", you might be able to squeeze more than I have in there, but you still won't get 24 on one side. Nope, not gonna happen. Just to get what I have in there, I have a couple in gun socks that are just leaning on each other and not in the designated spots. It's not the end of the world. Just know that 48 is a marketing number based on some kind of 4th dimension quantum physics, not reality.

Here's why I bought a Liberty Residential Security Container:

On Thanksgiving day, 2011, the owner of this safe was away from home. Nearest they can figure, the criminals had at least 3 hours to work on this safe. They didn't get in and none of the guns were stolen. I just happened to be in the store when this was delivered and got this pic. This is a Centurion which is their lowest end model. They had just brought this one back from replacing it for free.

While I was taking this pic, another guy walked in just fuming. He didn't have a Liberty safe and it wasn't bolted to the floor. Yep, he lost all his guns.

There are better, more secure safes, but not at this price. Pay the $200 or so to have it professionally installed. Your back will thank you and it will be placed right the first time.

I've been looking long and hard for a decent safe without having to spend a lot of money now. I'm trying to keep it under $1000 but it seems like they are all junk. That centurion though is very impressive Although it's now called the revolution model. I wonder if I went with their new entry level safe if it's as good as that centurion? What is the gauge of the centurion? I know that the Revolutin is 14 gauge.