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[Claymore33]

Security Products safes in Elm Mott ,Texas . North of Waco. I own 3. The best in America hands down. Owner actually builds them.
Great website. Custom built at reasonable prices.

 

[Dino44]

Still Looking For a Safe

I was recently looking for a safe. I did go to Tractor Supply and looked at the Liberty Revere 42, that was what they had in stock at that store, at that time. I felt like the construction and quality was ok for my needs, but at over 400 lbs. It was more than I could move by myself. My other consideration for purchasing a lower cost safe included the fact that it is going to be bolted to a concrete floor, which in itself makes a pry attack more difficult. It will be in a home in a low crime neighborhood, with a security system. I am also retired and taking care of an elderly parent, so I am never gone very long, and I am always armed. Is that ideal? No, but I am going to have to move the safe again in the future so lighter and less expensive is better for me now. As far as Cannons are concerned, I have never cared for the quality of them and especially the ones comparably priced have doors that only open 90 degrees. Not a full 180 degree. The one I bought to suite my current need is a Liberty Pro Vault 18. Its 341 lbs. and it was on sale at Bass Pro for $849.99. I transported it home in a mid-sized SUV, got it out of the vehicle and into the house by myself, with no dolly. OP if you are willing to drive to CT. I know two places that have safes in stock one has Liberty one has Champion. Msg if you want information. I have done considerable research on safes. I own 5 at my WA home. It is very situational, and how deep your pockets are, definitely plays a key role in the decision-making process.

 

[Tom K]

As long as we're discussing safes, why the hell are they ALL hinged on the right? Left handed safes seem to be quite rare, which doesn't make any sense. In any given household there might be places where a person would want to place a safe, that a door hinged on the right would be inconvenient or even unworkable. And it's not like the 10% of the population being left handed, the places you might want a left handed safe should be 50-50.

Of course the obvious answer is money, it's cheaper and easier for the manufacturers to just make one model.

 

[mike4sigs]

Went safe shopping last weekend with my son in Indiana, was looking at a Liberty. The store owner said the wait on a Liberty could be up to six month's or more. He told me Liberty appears to be trying to eliminate the middle man and drive their distributors out of business. He said he's had Liberty safes on order with them for months and they keep delaying and postponing their delivery.

The store owner said he looked for an alternative to Liberty and he found and added Pella to his line of safes. I looked at a couple different Pella safes and I think that's what I'll end up buying.

I have heard good things about Johnson safe in Zionsville Indiana. And i have seen their product in Person at gun Shows

 

[bwade]

Layer security is my advice. Pick a safe, secure it. Have an alarm and a camera system that will notify you if someone enters an area of your property/home/safe room by text or an application on your phone. A safe will only buy you time against a thief or a fire, you can start emergency services to the site with a remote notification. Remote camera systems are inexpensive now and I always look at mine for a variety of reasons. Currently, have 11 cameras in two systems that operate independently of each other and record to the cloud on one of the systems.

Full smoke and burglar hardwired system will keep you and your family safe when you are home too. They are inexpensive now too. A smart dog when you are home will keep your family and the property secure too. The dog may need secured when you are not home away from the monitored areas.

Many gun collections by our forum members are more valuable than their homes, so a layered security system is a fraction of the cost that has already been invested.

 

[URIT]

I'm wondering what you are looking for in a gun safe and what your budget is to get it set up in your house???

I bought my gun safe (actually they're "Residential Security Containers") from a dealer during a holiday weekend sale. I got about $400 off the floor model, a Fort Knox Maverick, which paid for the home delivery and set up in my house.

A search for a gun safe on Craig's list for your state can save you money. The guys who delivered my dealer purchased safe often moved gun safes on their days off.

 

[SMSgt]

Helped my son move his 600-lb safe to my garage while he's overseas. Never again. Found a local safe-moving business nearby. It will be worth every penny of my son's money.

 

[WR Moore]

In my over 40 years of being a construction worker (pipefitter) I have been in and out of those boxes many times. (all different styles) I have never seen a box chained to something substantial, what I have seen is chains attached to other valuable items to secure them to the box.

I've seen several chained to steel structural support columns/beams. Could be the total weight might have allowed them to "walk off the job".

ETA: many sites have forklifts right there on the site. Dunno if they have universal keys like much heavy equipment does.

 

[steelslaver]

In my over 40 years of being a construction worker (pipefitter) I have been in and out of those boxes many times. (all different styles) I have never seen a box chained to something substantial, what I have seen is chains attached to other valuable items to secure them to the box.

I concur that used at home they make decent storage for our valuable items. Course to do it right you might have a little custom inside work done to make things work easier!

The Rangers at Glacier National park also Oked my large chest type JoBox as a "bear proof container".

The way the padlocks are recessed makes it about impossible to break them, the boxes won't open even i you manage to pull the full length pin form the hinge. You can however drill the tumblers out of the locks and then operate them or use a zip disk to cut the lid where the hooks that engage the bodies of the padlocks. But, it is going to take a guy with some metal skills to defeat one, and he could use the same skills to defeat most gun safes. Zip disk the lock mechanism wide open from the face of the safe.

 

[NYlakesider]

The Rangers at Glacier National park also Oked my large chest type JoBox as a "bear proof container"

Bear proof some of those things are Sasquatch proof! The real good ones are the duel locks. The last time I worked out of a box was back in 2001 , so possibly there have been some changes!

 

[steelslaver]

Bear proof some of those things are Sasquatch proof! The real good ones are the duel locks. The last time I worked out of a box was back in 2001 , so possibly there have been some changes!

Na all the bigger boxes still run the 2 recessed locks that you can barely get a key into. I used to solder a quarter to my tool box keys to make it easier to unlock them. I don't work the tools anymore either, but see lots of those kind of boxes on job sites. You could put a lot of guns the big chest type or even the bigger stand up ones. None are easy to break into. I have got into a few for various reasons, but it took a bit and I had access to all the tools a guy could want to do it. The tools in my brothers or my fitters box were worth some serious money. Lot of guys have several thousands of dollars worth of tools inside them

 

[Baxter6551]

I have a Liberty Revolution I bought at Gander Mountain many years ago. A basic no frills model. I would like to get a bigger one and would def get a Liberty again.

 

[NYlakesider]

Na all the bigger boxes still run the 2 recessed locks that you can barely get a key into. I used to solder a quarter to my tool box keys to make it easier to unlock them. I don't work the tools anymore either, but see lots of those kind of boxes on job sites. You could put a lot of guns the big chest type or even the bigger stand up ones. None are easy to break into. I have got into a few for various reasons, but it took a bit and I had access to all the tools a guy could want to do it. The tools in my brothers or my fitters box were worth some serious money. Lot of guys have several thousands of dollars worth of tools inside them

Me also. For reasons I have had to get into some boxes and like you I had everything I needed available.

As been stated before they are very good for buying time be it on the job site or in your house.

 

[KalamazooKid]

Still Looking For a Safe

As mentioned, there’s some purchases I wouldn’t feel comfortable “shopping for bargains”. A gun safe is one. I have a friend who was selling his share of ownership in a LGS. Part of his stock was a portion of the safe inventory and I got a heck of a deal on this Liberty. Glad I did and would pay MSRP for another one.

The picture below was in my office, I had the LGS move it to my basement. Well worth the $100 they charged to move and place it for me!

 

[smoothshooter]

Keep in mind that a gun safe will not hold as many guns as each model advertises unless they are almost all pistols. For example, a “24 Gun Safe” will only hold a combination of maybe 15-18 long and short guns.
Also be aware that on most safes that the door is the only really strong part. A heavy thick door is mostly just good marketing.
I have seen a good safe that had a large hole cut in it with a no-heat cutting tool and a pair of channel lock pliers, and multiple guns removed. Sheriff’s Dept. said it was an approximately 10 to 15 minute job.
I recommend attaching a few 1/8” to 1/4” steel plates to the inside walls as an extra precaution. Full coverage is nor necessary.

 

[daveyc]

with all the hoopla about liberty in the last month or 2, I am not sure why a gun owner would consider them. Donating $ to anti-gunners.

to each their own

 

[SweetMK]

I have two GOVT file cabinets,, one is a "2" high, the other is a "4" high.

The 2 high weighs 400 pounds, the 4 high weighs 800 pounds.
Last spring, i replaced the safe lock in the 4 high
the 2 high works perfectly.

Both are "legal size", I think that means the drawers are 14
inches wide.
Both are VERY deep, the drawers roll WAY out, they are deeper than a typical gun safe.

They are both rated 45 minute tamper resistant.
As far as getting into it with a grinder,, GOOD LUCK,,
These are both fabricated out of 1/4" thick steel, or thicker.

These would be great for handguns,, the 4 drawer high one would hold a TON of handguns.

I had plans for them when I had a previous business, now, they take up space.

 

[Rosco Shooter]

I bought a small Browning safe several years ago. My only regret is I wish I would have bought a larger one. The one I bought has an electronic keypad which is great for someone with old eyes. I also like the finish on the metal exterior.

 

[WR Moore]

I have two GOVT file cabinets,, one is a "2" high, the other is a "4" high.

I think you meant 2' (feet) and 4' (feet). My apologies for being picky.

 

[TX-Dennis]

I think you meant 2' (feet) and 4' (feet). My apologies for being picky.

Drawers, I would imagine.