Liquor Store Clerks Shoot Armed Robber (Video)

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BOTH the young ladys armed themselves and used their weapons.

I suspect the handguns are their own and that they've put some time in at the range.

What are the chances the bg would run into that sort of resistance?

This wasn't a good day for the bg.
 
I think the ladies somehow remotely locked the front door to prevent his escape. When he comes back the first time, he appears to be pleading and pointing at the door. Hindsight is 20/20 of course, but if they had not locked the door he probably would have fled and the most dangerous parts of the encounter would have been avoided. I admit this is speculation supported by hindsight. I wasn't there.
 
I tried to get a look at their guns. One had a snub revolver, but by the look of the recoil and impact on the shooter I would guess it was a 22 rather than a 38. The other had a small auto. Neither had much shock impact. The perp must have been really juiced up to withstand. Thoughts?
 
The remotely locked door makes sense, otherwise I was shocked the guy came back in. Wow, what an intense video, the lady holding onto her gun for dear life while the perp tries to wrestle it from her and the other lady blasting him during the struggle. Those ladies were prepared, met adversity, but triumphed in the end. God bless them.
 
Some news outlets publish more details. UK news outlet 12 hours ago said that they pressed a button to block his exit, and one of the employees guns ran out of ammo. Underwood .40 S&W would have had more shock impact.
 
Mistakes aside, these were two gutsy women. I applaud them for that.
Does anyone know if the robber died from his wounds?

I think caliber matters less than the willingness to use the firearm for self defense. Better that they hit him a bunch of times with a smaller caliber weapon that they shoot well than miss with a bigger, flinch inducing, gun.

This is why a lot of manufacturers are introducing lower recoil 9mm guns. Women are the fastest growing demographic in shooting and it's wise to make guns that they will shoot.
 
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richbuff said:
Some news outlets publish more details. UK news outlet 12 hours ago said that they pressed a button to block his exit, and one of the employees guns ran out of ammo. Underwood .40 S&W would have had more shock impact.
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What I could see is the lady with the revolver fired 4 shots that were in the video and possibly one off video. The perp tried to fire the revolver over the counter and it seems that the gun being out of ammo is likely.
 
Reading the report, the guy came back in the store after getting shot while leaving. Althought hit several times, the guy was not only able to renew the attack but was still able to drive himself to the hospital. Looks like the ladies used a J frame .38 special(using up all her ammo and gettkng pistol whipped with it) and a small .380 auto. So, how much gun and ammo is enough?
 
It was on LivePD last night (guilty pleasure). Clerks are mother and daughter. I think they mostly got lucky, there wasn't a ton of skill involved. But, protip: most civilian defensive shootings don't really require a ton of masterful gun handling or marksmanship.

The revolver ran dry (5-shot), which was extremely lucky when the robber got the gun off the older clerk, and tried to shoot her with it. Also, it being a 5-shot means it's likely a .38. A .22LR snub doesn't have that much muzzleflash, either. If you look closely, you can pretty plainly see the gun recoiling at the 1-minute mark.

Agree the shot when struggling was risky. But she at least had the wherewithal to keep the still-loaded pocket pistol out of the guy's reach, instead of moving in to tussle. She really should have shot him before it got to that point.

Even better was the use of cover. The guy came around the counter and pretty much walked into an ambush.

What was really friggin' stupid was locking him in to begin with. Guy's got the money, he wants to leave, great, go ahead.
 
Lots of discussion over time in this forum about the effectiveness of different rounds. I think it's interesting that the BG was shot with what, 3 or 4 .38 special rounds and 1 .380 round, all at close range and kept on fighting.
 
Those ladies did great for a first time shooting experience. Sure several non tactical mistakes made but come on, they have what it takes.
Too bad the bad guy lived or wasn't at least crippled for life.
 
I think another idea to consider when watching this video is where to keep a defensive weapon: under the counter or on your body?

I personally think on your body is best. (I'm not posting this to second guess the clerks' decisions, but for people to consider what is best for themselves.)
 
The ladies did a GREAT job there.....

Since they are obviously proficient with firearms they should get something a little heavier with more rounds.



With drugs, desperation and such these days, not to mention sheer stupidity it's very likely that a perp wouldn't even feel the first few shots.
 
I commend the mother/daughter team for putting up a good fight against a BG that was probably as high as the sky. If on drugs both women would of had to fire 10 well placed 38/380 rounds to take him down. This reinforces my decision to always have a backup magazine or spare ammo for low capacity weapons.
 
Jack Flash said:
I think the ladies somehow remotely locked the front door to prevent his escape. When he comes back the first time, he appears to be pleading and pointing at the door. Hindsight is 20/20 of course, but if they had not locked the door he probably would have fled and the most dangerous parts of the encounter would have been avoided. I admit this is speculation supported by hindsight. I wasn't there.
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You called it. This news story shows video of him in the double door system they hoped would trap him.

Mother and daughter shoot at Oklahoma armed robbery suspect | KNSS 98.7/1330
 
rwsmith said:
Since they are obviously proficient with firearms they should get something a little heavier with more rounds.
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I agree with the second part of that sentence, but after watching the video several times, I'm not sure they're all that proficient. The robber's just on the other side of the counter, and even when he's struggling with the mother, he doesn't look to be more than 10-12 feet away.

That's another thing. That was a bad choice the daughter made, shooting at the guy while he's struggling with the mother. When I first watched it, I actually cringed when she did that.

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One the things this video shows is that the one-shot stop is a myth.
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This goes back to my comment above. I don't think the ladies are all that skilled in the use of firearms.

The one-shot stop...not a myth, but in my opinion depends on the caliber and the shooter. If one of 'em had been shooting a .45 with the right ammo, and was any kind of a good shot, they wouldn't have had to fool with locking the door...cause he'd have never got that far.

Some of y'all may remember this incident from just over a year ago from down in Georgia.

Large caliber + skilled shooter = One-Shot-Stop. It's a simple concept, a proven theory.

[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5XWbjTe1qg[/ame]
 
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Overall, I'd say that robbing a gun shop is generally more risky than robbing convenience store.

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I agree with the second part of that sentence, but after watching the video several times, I'm not sure they're all that proficient. The robber's just on the other side of the counter, and even when he's struggling with the mother, he doesn't look to be more than 10-12 feet away.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5XWbjTe1qg
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the difference in what looked like a 38 and a little auto the women used and the 1911 the gun store man used. difference as in night and day. the 45 is king in handgun self defense,,,,,,,,
 
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