Live Round Stuck Inside M&P 22 - Help

[Filibogado]

This is only my 3rd trip to the range with this brand new M&P 22 and I'm already in trouble. There is a live round (casing + bullet) stuck at the shooter's end of the barrel. It refuses to be dislodged no matter how rapidly and vigorously I pull and release the slide. I've put a few drops of oil at the other end in the hope of making it slide out. No luck. I'm scared to push it out with a plunger at the other end, Any ideas on how to get it out? Perhaps use a paper clip as a lever to pry the primer end out?

I'm so disappointed with the performance that I'm willing to sell this virtually brand new M&P 22 for as little as $325. Used only 3 times, less than 150 rounds through it. I'm in VA - DC area. Ooops this is not the "for sale" forum - sorry...

Thanks for any help.

Fil

 

[W.E.G.]

What kind of ammo are you using?

I'd use a cleaning rod to drive it out - but not that I would recommend that to anybody else since people always seem to find a way to hurt themselves.

I only shoot CCI Mini-Mag in mine.

If you get the round out of the gun, be sure to give the chamber a really good cleaning.

...and don't shoot cheap ammo in your .22's unless you are willing to suffer the consequences.

 

[arjay]

Try a small screwdriver and hook it under the rim,then get a bronze brush and scrub that chamber.Im guessing this round is a dud?If it is,driving it out with a rod should be safe

 

[portejw]

Can you remove the barrel and pull it out with pliers?

 

[mkbruce]

Sounds like the extractor is slipping off the edge of the case rim. You should be able to pry out the case with the edge of a knife under the rim. I've had this happen with a fired case inserted in the chamber for dry fire practice.

 

[*chris*]

No luck. I'm scared to push it out with a plunger at the other end, Any ideas on how to get it out? Perhaps use a paper clip as a lever to pry the primer end out?
Fil

Why are you scared to tap it out from the barrel end, that is the right thing to do. I keep a 12" long 1/8" diameter brass rod in my range bag for this exact problem, dropping the rod on a bullet usually pushes it out.

You could also go to home depot and buy a wood dowel that will fit down the bore and push it out.

Prying on the primer end of a rim fire bullet scares me more than anything. You could set off the round and could scratch the barrel face!

Chris

 

[Jyezahn]

I agree with using a rod to push it out. If it hasn't fired yet, it's not going to go off just by pushing on the bullet from the front.

 

[TheBreeze]

Remove mag.
Lock slide back.
Insert cleaning rod into end of barrel.
Press cleaning rod against hard vertical surface (think tree) and push gently.

After you get the round out - field strip the gun and get all of the thick grease out. I had the same thing happen to mine. I used CLP and compressed air. I haven't had a single failure after the thorough cleaning.

Yes - I didn't follow the good advice on this forum and shot the gun before a thorough cleaning. I learned the hard way. Don't give up on the gun yet - I love mine. It eats any ammo I put in it.

 

[Hayden]

I wouldnt give up on it either. Mine needed 800 rounds of CCI before it would shoot Fed Bulk without FTFs and FTEs. Push the stuck round out and keep going. No biggy.

Hayden.

 

[Johnny Dollar]

Agree with pushing the round out with a rod inserted from the muzzle end. If the primer has been struck and has not gone off after 30 seconds it's not going to go off when pushed out with a rod from the muzzle end.

Don't give up on this pistol yet. It's reliability is very dependent on being cleaned and lubed and fed the correct ammunition, especially when new.

As others have suggested CCI Mini Mags are a good choice, especially for the first few hundred rounds. Avoid standard velocity 22lr. Quality high velocity ammo is needed to cyle this pistol reliably.

Give it a fair break in period. Clean and lube it after each firing. Add a drop or 2 of lube when you take it to the range if you haven't fired it in a while, and be picky about the ammo you feed it and you should be very pleased with this pistol.

If you do this for a break in period of at least 500 rounds and you are still having problems, before you give up on it send it back to S&W. They have great customer service. Also consider the alternative. Are you going to sell it to some guy without telling him about the problems you had, or will you tell him and accept the lower price he will then offer you. Neither choice is very good.

 

[Robert_W]

I had the same problem with CCI Velocitors. Punch out the round with a cleaning rod. I switched to AR Tacital and and Mini Mags without a single hiccup. Don't give up on your M&P22. It's a good gun.

Have fun and shoot safe,

Bob.

 

[rck281]

I would much rather use a rod to push it out than pry on the rim. The rim has the priming compound in it. Just don't stand in front or behind the barrel when you try to tap it out.

 

[gdnagle]

Agree with pushing the round out with a rod inserted from the muzzle end. If the primer has been struck and has not gone off after 30 seconds it's not going to go off when pushed out with a rod from the muzzle end.

I agree push it out but I had a round in a firearm I lent to someone, never do that again, they tried to fire, revolver, all primers were struck and when he returned the firearm to me there was a round with a bullet on it still in the cylinder, he didn't clean it either, pulled trigger after aiming at a safe target round went off, this was several days after he tried to shoot it. Lesson learned never assume because it didn't go off the first time that it won't go off no matter how much time has elapsed..

 

[Jyezahn]

I agree push it out but I had a round in a firearm I lent to someone, never do that again, they tried to fire, revolver, all primers were struck and when he returned the firearm to me there was a round with a bullet on it still in the cylinder, he didn't clean it either, pulled trigger after aiming at a safe target round went off, this was several days after he tried to shoot it. Lesson learned never assume because it didn't go off the first time that it won't go off no matter how much time has elapsed..

2nd strike on the primer is much different than pushing the nose of a round with a rod. Chances are, if the round in the OP's gun is struck again, it'll go bang unless it really is a dud. But yes, always be safe.

 

[Thunderhawk88]

Try firing it (at a safe backstop) several more times (.22 primers can be very stubborn). If it doesn't fire or eject, use a thin brass rod to push the round back out of the chamber. ( I bought a 1/8th brass rod at Home Depot, and cut it into rifle and pistol length)
Don't worry about it firing when you tap it out. Tapping it on the bullet end will not fire it.

 

[Johnny Dollar]

I agree push it out but I had a round in a firearm I lent to someone, never do that again, they tried to fire, revolver, all primers were struck and when he returned the firearm to me there was a round with a bullet on it still in the cylinder, he didn't clean it either, pulled trigger after aiming at a safe target round went off, this was several days after he tried to shoot it. Lesson learned never assume because it didn't go off the first time that it won't go off no matter how much time has elapsed..

Obviously the 30 second rule does not apply if you pull the trigger and the primer is struck a second time. That's not what we are talking about here.

The scenario from the OP is an unfired round in the chamber. That is we're the 30 second rule applies. If you pull the trigger and the round does not fire, wait 30 seconds. If it has not fired in that time you can remove the mag, lock the slide back, and insert a rod from the muzzle end to push the round out. Don't look down the barrel from the muzzle end and keep the muzzle pointed in a safe direction.

 

[budrichard]

How do you know the round hasn't fired?
Same thing happened to my M&P22, when I tapped out the round, it was fired. No problem to tapping out the round either way.
Not a problem, it happens.-Dick

 

[Filibogado]

Update - Stuck Round Pushed Out!

This is only my 3rd trip to the range with this brand new M&P 22 and I'm already in trouble. There is a live round (casing + bullet) stuck at the shooter's end of the barrel. It refuses to be dislodged no matter how rapidly and vigorously I pull and release the slide. I've put a few drops of oil at the other end in the hope of making it slide out. No luck. I'm scared to push it out with a plunger at the other end, Any ideas on how to get it out? Perhaps use a paper clip as a lever to pry the primer end out?

Thanks for any help.

Fil

Whew! I managed to push the stuck live round out. I took a wire clothes hanger, cut it to the appropriate length, bent one end into a u-shaped hook (to avoid scratching the barrel) and pushed it into the far end of barrel. The bullet & casing popped out. It turned out to be a dud - a Remington Wildcat .22. The butt end showed an indentation along the rim, indicating the firing pin had struck it but the primer did not ignite, or the round simply did not fire. Since its obviously been over 30 seconds ago, I will get rid of this dud, hopefully as safely as I can, perhaps bury it and put a rock on top of it, so it won't harm anyone if it detonates so late in the day.

Thanks to one and all - the discussion was really helpful.

Fil

 

[Jyezahn]

Safest way to dispose of it is to attempt to fire it a 2nd time, then if it doesn't fire, use a pair of pliers (grab and wiggle back and forth, it's really easy on a .22) to remove the projectile from the casing and dump the powder.

 

[The Fed]

You can try asking a range what they do with theirs.