Load recommendation for woods carry

If there is any realistic possibility of tangling with a bear I would recommend a relatively heavy solid of some sort, a hard-cast 158 grain SWC being pushed hard should do it. Big cats are not that hard to kill, they are hard to hit. I suspect you are right and you are likely in more danger from a pack of semi-feral dogs or feral humans.
 
Ditto on the 158 Gr. JSP. That covers just about every possibility. Black bears are generally not aggressive and cougars are usually terrified of adult humans. Forget the snake shot. I grew up in Colorado and live in Arizona now. Snakes are only as dangerous as you are stupid.
 
Up in the mountains I would not carry shot cartridges because the odds of running into a rattler is not very high. However around the house and out in my dry ground I do carry snake shot. Heck even if they rattle and warn me I'd probably never hear the buzz. I'm also not too fearful of black bear attacks...but my Tlinglit friend in Alaska told me...if a black bear attacks he intends to kill you and possibly eat ya too.....but he lived in an area where black bears had killed and eaten people. Or so he said...
 
YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE STUPID TO GET BITTEN BY A SNAKE.

Although it might help. ;) Let's be real, sometimes while out in the woods, say hunting, you want to be as quiet & stealthy as able. OR you may be walking along staring at your feet & momentarily forget to watch EXACTLY where you put each and every step. The snake chaps mfgr's & people that wear them ARE ALL WRONG??? Granted the mountains of northern Co may not be rattler central, & I DO NOT advocate killing EVERY snake EVERYWHERE, just the poisonous ones posing a threat to me, dogs, livestock or invading MY territory. YES when in known snake country, (& pretty much everywhere) it would be wise to be careful where you place your hands & feet. If bitten it would be a good thing to be able to have the culprit to show the medics, what type of snake bit you. I'm not convinced snakeshot has the penetration to kill a big snake. Easier to hit it, YES.
 
Oh yes snakeshot will kill even a large snake...ask my wife. Maybe not the 22 caliber stuff...but the centerfire stuff will. And yeah not everyone is always aware of what may be around. My grandkids may play in the yard. I have had a close encounter with a seriously PO'd snake I didn't know was out there. You think it can't happen to YOU?? Right
 
I've been mainly disappointed with the performance of .357 Magnum JHPs on deer and wild boar, but then I am pretty picky. Like Elmer Keith; "I like to do *all* of my hunting *before* I shoot."

That said, I did have good results with the Barnes Vor-TX 140 gr in a 6" barrel - in fact got two deer with one shot (the second was totally unintentional and, frankly embarrassing that I did not notice it behind the first one).

Mind you I had already shot one of them with that load through both lungs at 60 yards and it ran closer to me, not knowing where I was.

Still that is about the best performance I've seen. Barring that, in factory ammo, the Silver Tip seems OK (thought not for really big animals like bear or moose) and Winchester 158 JHP seems to be a fairly hot load - it does expand (a friend shot a wild boar 4 times with that load and 3 of them stayed in - it was not a big boar (maybe dressed 150 lbs). All 4 hit the heart (they were shot over a time of about 30 seconds and he even had time to reload his revolver - but did not shoot after that since we noticed the boar was getting pretty wobbly on his feet).

I would probably second the above recommendations for a good hard cast flat point bullet - either SWC or Wide Flat Nose (WFN) - if you don't handload I think Buffalo Bore and Underwood make them.

Going that way I'd even consider .38 Spl. - I had a 173 gr. SWC loaded to 900 fps go through an 18" stack of wet newsprint and then 4" more into soft dirt - typical .357 125 JHPs are doing well to get 7" penetration into wet newsprint (Cor-bon DPX and some of the medium loads do a little better).

While I like to let out a lot of blood and let in a lot of air, adequate penetration with excellent placement seems to be the key to success in stopping critters (both 2 and 4 legged) the fastest. Rapidly expanding bullets sure put the kibosh on penetration.

Good luck in your quest!

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