M&P 9 fired while inserting magazine

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WOW Guys! Let's dogpile the messenger. Having said that, I have never had a gun discharge without reason.
APEX trigger installed by gunsmith years ago lead me to ask if the sear angle was changed? Possibly even foreign object involved internally?
 
The type of work I do, it’s dangerous.. I was getting ready to leave out in the field and the safest place to point was towards my led so it wasn’t anybody else’s.
Police report stated malfunction, as I had six witnesses and standing around me.
Well I call foul on this When I load a firearm I do not point it at my leg or any part of my body. If the room was crowded you still could have aimed at the floor.
 
Unfortunate situation while at work, I was inserting a fresh mag into my pistol when it fired and struck me in the leg. I inherited this gun from my grandfather who had a gunsmith replace the trigger to a APEX trigger. We’ve had several visits at the range no problems.
This shouldn’t have happened. Our office was full of people standing around and there really wasn’t a safe direction to point it other than towards myself.
What the F$&! Would cause this to happen?
I was aware that there was a round in the chamber, but have inserted mags hundreds of times this way with no bad results like this.
I remember when I was very young (long time ago) that my brother was loading a new mag in his gun (no idea what kind of gun) and it discharged. I was told then that the firing pin scratched the bullet and made it go off. Since becoming a gun owner myself I never load with one in the chamber because of my experience. That round went right next to my leg - trough a closet door - through a foot locker and into the concrete block.
 
I am not going to debate where your trigger finger or the Apex doohickies were but I am pretty sure I can find a safer place to point a pistol to load it, even if some odd circumstance has me doing it while surrounded by six people. You know, like at the floor between your feet.
 
I am not going to debate where your trigger finger or the Apex doohickies were but I am pretty sure I can find a safer place to point a pistol to load it, even if some odd circumstance has me doing it while surrounded by six people. You know, like at the floor between your feet.
Agreed.
 
I don't post much. Randy Lee worked on my revolvers for years. I have an M&P 9 1.0 that got one his first triggers for the M&P before it was Apex and the move to Arizona. No problems at all. The first triggers were for duty/service pistols, can't comment on what they are today. Never any problems with Apex or UND.
 
No gun handler is EVER guilty of causing an unintentional discharge... according to the guilty ones. Show me a report from an independent qualified source detailing the other-than-handler cause and I will listen, but until then...
 
Unfortunate situation while at work, I was inserting a fresh mag into my pistol when it fired and struck me in the leg. I inherited this gun from my grandfather who had a gunsmith replace the trigger to a APEX trigger. We’ve had several visits at the range no problems.
This shouldn’t have happened. Our office was full of people standing around and there really wasn’t a safe direction to point it other than towards myself.
What the F$&! Would cause this to happen?
I was aware that there was a round in the chamber, but have inserted mags hundreds of times this way with no bad results like this.
Just speculating here, but I suspect when the apex trigger was installed the striker/firing pin safety was removed in an effort to smooth the trigger pull. A very foolish thing to do in my opinion but it has been known that people sometimes do this. I would have the pistol disassembled by a qualified armor, inspected, and replace any missing parts.
 
I wonder how many people have unnecessarily died or been seriously injured because of the prevalence of striker-fired handguns?
 
As for inserting a magazine with a round in the chamber, there have been many occasions when I have put a full mag in a pistol, chambered a round then removed the mag, topped it off and then reinserted the full magazine. I think it's a fairly common practice, just not in a room full of people, and not with my finger in the trigger guard.
 
I didn’t get past the second sentence without a red flag.

Who’s grandfather carries a striker fired pistol with an Apex trigger?

And what workplace allows a modified trigger on their duty weapons?

Did any of this story even happen?

Does the OP have an ax to grind with either S&W or Apex?
 
Unfortunate situation while at work, I was inserting a fresh mag into my pistol when it fired and struck me in the leg. I inherited this gun from my grandfather who had a gunsmith replace the trigger to a APEX trigger. We’ve had several visits at the range no problems.
This shouldn’t have happened. Our office was full of people standing around and there really wasn’t a safe direction to point it other than towards myself.
What the F$&! Would cause this to happen?
I was aware that there was a round in the chamber, but have inserted mags hundreds of times this way with no bad results like this.
When I worked for S&W I had an agency call and tell me they had a major issue with their new pistols. If I remember right they were 4506's. They told me that when they inserted a mag, the slide would release and go home. Paid them a visit and ask for a demo of the problem (on the range) Seems, who ever was teaching them their gun handling skills was teaching them to partially insert a mag, let go of it, then wind up and slam the mag into the pistol. Some of them were hitting the mag with a forward motion as well as an upward motion and hitting it very hard. This caused the slide to slightly move rearward and "unload" the slide stop which dropped out the slide notch and of course, the slide would drop. I had to retrain the whole department on how to properly reload an auto pistol. Point I'm making, is that sometimes improper technique can cause bad stuff to happen. The M&P is basically a single action, striker fired pistol. The striker safety should have caught the striker, even if the sear failed for what ever reason. The striker safety is only disengaged if the trigger is pulled to the rear. Pistol manipulation in any environment other than the range or into a "hot box" is never a good idea. Pointing a pistol at any part of your anatomy or anyone else's anatomy is even a worse idea.
 
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