M&P Shield Field Strip

[Ohio AV8TOR]

Just curious what is the most common method is within the group

 

[GunsNParadise]

I field strip mine according to the Manual. Took me about 2 times to get used to the difficulty of the slide lock back during both takedown and reassembly. Now it goes fast and I enjoy it compared to how many steps I see mu husband has to take to field strip his Kimber 1911.

 

[misswired]

50/50

sometimes use the lever/sometimes pull the trigger

guess I cancelled myself out

 

[Ohio AV8TOR]

50/50

sometimes use the lever/sometimes pull the trigger

guess I cancelled myself out

It's okay I cancel myself out and I started the poll.

 

[GKC]

I have short, fat fingers which make it very hard to push down the sear deactivation lever without a tool of some kind. The shield doesn't have the tool built into the grip like the bigger M&P models, so I find it much easier and quicker to just dry fire it. I always safety check my guns before I work on them, no matter what kind they are, so I'm not worried (just careful) about using the dry fire method.

 

[jbtrucker]

I use a small screw driver to push the lever down, keep one in my range bag

 

[ScottS]

I have never used the sear activation lever, on either my Shield, or any of my full-size M&P's. Too easy to pull the trigger.

 

[Telecaster]

We're supposed to read the manual?

 

[Ranger17]

I use a bic pin with the insert removed; works nice to catch the lever without using something hard or sharp in there.
I figure its a better step to use than the trigger; only my .02 of course.

 

[Smoke]

Just curious what is the most common method is within the group

I follow the manual

 

[RobzGuns]

Ensure that the mag is out and the chamber is empty, pull the trigger and remove the slide.
Same as I do with my XD and Glocks.

 

[Ransom]

I pull the trigger. Easy peasy.

 

[Mike SC Hunter]

Does it REALLY matter?

 

[S&WOkie]

I owned Glocks before any M&P so I never felt uncomfortable just pulling the trigger to remove the slide.

 

[ScaryWoody]

When I first got mine I read the manual and field stripped using the "Lawyer Lever". In practice I just pull the trigger.

 

[BigDog48]

We're supposed to read the manual?

What manual?!?

 

[Mahalo_.32]

I just prefer to make sure my M&P is clear, no mag, no cartridge in the ready mode and begin slide removal. The tool in the butt is nice however, the more you remove it the faster it wears out.

 

[SATX]

Never have used the lever. I think people who experience a negligent discharge cleaning their gun will eventually have a negligent discharge while handling a gun anyway due to carelessness.

 

[wnderr]

I use a bic pin with the insert removed; works nice to catch the lever without using something hard or sharp in there.
I figure its a better step to use than the trigger; only my .02 of course.

I use this method, as I normally have a pen in my pocket. Cheap plastic type, and just leave the pen refill in the barrel of the pen. Extremely easy to flick it down.

 

[jim46ok]

We're supposed to read the manual?

Who can read?

 

[Rastoff]

...I find it much easier and quicker to...

These words preface just about every dangerous or deadly activity with a gun.

Does it REALLY matter?

Yes, it matters.

We're supposed to read the manual?

People love to make this sarcastic remark about manuals for anything. I'm not sure why, but for some reason reading the manual has become "not manly" in our society. The vast majority of problems with any device would either never have come up or are easily solved if owners would only read the manual.

If the sear deactivation lever is used it's impossible to have a negligent discharge. It's so easy to do I'm surprised that so many refuse to use it.

 

[NCW Ray]

These words preface just about every dangerous or deadly activity with a gun.

Yes, it matters.

People love to make this sarcastic remark about manuals for anything. I'm not sure why, but for some reason reading the manual has become "not manly" in our society. The vast majority of problems with any device would either never have come up or are easily solved if owners would only read the manual.

If the sear deactivation lever is used it's impossible to have a negligent discharge. It's so easy to do I'm surprised that so many refuse to use it.

Isn't that the truth! What I find funny, is when someone asks a question about the Slide Stop being so hard to release the slide with...then everyone piles on them, saying it's not a Slide Release, it's a Slide Lock, "READ THE MANUAL"! Reading the manual becomes very manly when they think it fits their agenda!

 

[WR Moore]

Before designing the M&P line S&W did a number of focus groups with potential major customers. They were quite clear that the phrase "pull the trigger" DID NOT BELONG IN FIELD STRIP INSTRUCTIONS! I quite agree. In fact, I'll go beyond Rastoff in noting that the phrase "There's an easier/quicker way....." ranks right up there with "Hold my beer and watch this...." as a prelude to a vast number of stupid and dangerous acts.

We can make all the snide comments we want about people who we believe have lesser levels of skill. The fact is that we all occasionally lose focus and there's no reason to unnecessarily increase risk.

The OP left out the category of "I always use the sear deactivation lever". That's me.

BTW, in the slide lock/release/stop debate, the prototype M&P came out for test and evaluation with a flat slide stop that was impossible to release with the thumb. The current slide stop/lock/release was optional. Dunno if this was from the focus groups or just a way to test the opinion (big in some circles) that that was the best way to design the item. We got one with the flat item and one with the optional item for T&E.

At any rate, it became readily apparent that the flat design made malfunction clearance blippin impossible and the flat design disappeared. Quite possibly, the manual was never updated. For those who have a fixation on how to release the slide, I have a test. Lock your slide back, stick your other/support hand in a pocket, simulating disability and find a way to release your slide.

 

[ScottS]

Yes, it matters.

Why? Why does it matter? Either way releases the sear and allows the slide to move forward off the frame.

 

[WR Moore]

Right up until the day you look at the "cleared" chamber and fail to see a round there.

 

[hdtwice]

Right up until the day you look at the "cleared" chamber and fail to see a round there.

So then we better not do dry fire practice either right?

I dry fire practice several guns on a very regular basis and if I can make sure of an empty chamber then, it would seem we can do the same during take down.

 

[ScottS]

Right up until the day you look at the "cleared" chamber and fail to see a round there.

So, IF there's a worn/broken extractor, AND IF you fail to see it, THEN there would be a problem.

OK. Got it.

 

[Rastoff]

Why? Why does it matter? Either way releases the sear and allows the slide to move forward off the frame.

I guess you missed this sentence in my last post:

If the sear deactivation lever is used it's impossible to have a negligent discharge. It's so easy to do I'm surprised that so many refuse to use it.

You followed with this:

So, IF there's a worn/broken extractor, AND IF you fail to see it, THEN there would be a problem.

OK. Got it.

No, you don't get it.

Yes, what you said is true. However, if those things fail and the sear disconnect was used, there wouldn't be a problem.

But that's not the real issue, at least not for me. The problem is complacency. Complacency gets us all sooner or later. This is why it matters. Don't let the arrogance of, "That will never happen to me" compound the chances of a complacent moment.

 

[ScottS]

I guess you missed this sentence in my last post:

You followed with this:No, you don't get it.

Yes, what you said is true. However, if those things fail and the sear disconnect was used, there wouldn't be a problem.

But that's not the real issue, at least not for me. The problem is complacency. Complacency gets us all sooner or later. This is why it matters. Don't let the arrogance of, "That will never happen to me" compound the chances of a complacent moment.

No, I get it. You manage risks your way, and I (and, by the looks of the polling, many people) manage risks my way. I am aware of, and will accept the nearly infinitesimal risk associated with a simultaneous human and mechanical malfunction and use the trigger to release the sear.

What you should have said was "Yes, it matters to me." Because it doesn't matter to others.

 

[WR Moore]

..... I am aware of, and will accept the nearly infinitesimal risk associated with a simultaneous human and mechanical malfunction and use the trigger to release the sear.

That attitude would have led to your separation (for willful failure to use a safety device) by my last, and longest, employer. You may class that behavior as a "nearly infinitesimal risk", but the human experience is that a negative result is far more common than you wish to believe and it's entirely preventable. But hey, it's your choice.