Machine guns anyone?
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Grayfox
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I'm lucky enough to have a couple of friends who own them. I do get a chance to play with them from time to time. They are a hoot!
Realistically, I don't want one of my own. Way above my pay grade. Even if I could afford the weapon, I couldn't afford to feed it.
Realistically, I don't want one of my own. Way above my pay grade. Even if I could afford the weapon, I couldn't afford to feed it.
Originally Posted by n4zov
sjmjax, I am sure some of us would like to see more photos! Steave could also give us a peek at that 75mm.
Thanks for asking. Here's a few more I like.
Gun weights about 600 pounds and is easily moved by myself. When set in firing position a monopod is deployed that lifts the wheels off the ground so that the mount becomes effectively a tripod. Gun is extremely accurate out to over 1000 yards. Will penetrate up to 2 inches of armor at 300 yards. Was one of the highest velocity cannons of WWII. Factory ammo steps out at around 3200fps much faster than contemporary 37mm guns. We make our own bullets from solid brass bar stock. Last picture shows a few examples. Bullet on the far left factory original. The red thing in the base of one round is a .50 caliber BMG tracer bullet being used as a tracer pellet. Will trace bright red for over one mile. Fun to shoot and watch the bullet trajectory to target.
sjmjax, I am sure some of us would like to see more photos! Steave could also give us a peek at that 75mm.
Thanks for asking. Here's a few more I like.
Gun weights about 600 pounds and is easily moved by myself. When set in firing position a monopod is deployed that lifts the wheels off the ground so that the mount becomes effectively a tripod. Gun is extremely accurate out to over 1000 yards. Will penetrate up to 2 inches of armor at 300 yards. Was one of the highest velocity cannons of WWII. Factory ammo steps out at around 3200fps much faster than contemporary 37mm guns. We make our own bullets from solid brass bar stock. Last picture shows a few examples. Bullet on the far left factory original. The red thing in the base of one round is a .50 caliber BMG tracer bullet being used as a tracer pellet. Will trace bright red for over one mile. Fun to shoot and watch the bullet trajectory to target.
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TXSWFAN
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You don't have to talk to them for Title II stuff either.
As for the trust route, it's fairly simple. There has been some problems with the Quicken trusts being kicked back. My trust was set up specifically for NFA. Cost me $300 thru an attorney that knew what he was doing. None of my trusts have been kicked back.
The good thing about the trust, versus a corporation or CLEO sign off, is that you don't pay any fees/taxes to have it renewed every year like a corp. and the only folks who know you have it is the BATFE and yourself.
jag312
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While I do not personally own any machinegun, I do have free access to an assortment of machineguns. One of my favorites is a Beretta Model 38/42. It functions flawlessly with any 9mm ammunition it can fire in it, plus the magazine is easy to load. Another favorite is a Heckler & Koch HK33. I much prefer it to the M16. I know it is just psychological, but the HK33 just seems more powerful than the M16.
The M14 is a great military rifle in semi-auto, but I just can't control it in full auto. I have always wanted to experiment with converting some machineguns to use different cartridges. For example, I'd like to try an FN FAL in 7mm-08 and in 243. At one time I thought about making a wildcat cartridge from a 7.62x39 by necking it down to 6mm, and then rebarreling an AK47 to use that cartridge. I thought that would be a better cartridge than the 5.45x39 Russian cartridge, and the Soviet Union could rebarrel all their AK47's for the new cartridge which would be cheaper and more efficient than manufacturing the new AK74's. An Army Colonel forcibly reminded me that the pay check for my job came from the United States Government, and my job was not to design better weapons for the Soviet Union.
The M14 is a great military rifle in semi-auto, but I just can't control it in full auto. I have always wanted to experiment with converting some machineguns to use different cartridges. For example, I'd like to try an FN FAL in 7mm-08 and in 243. At one time I thought about making a wildcat cartridge from a 7.62x39 by necking it down to 6mm, and then rebarreling an AK47 to use that cartridge. I thought that would be a better cartridge than the 5.45x39 Russian cartridge, and the Soviet Union could rebarrel all their AK47's for the new cartridge which would be cheaper and more efficient than manufacturing the new AK74's. An Army Colonel forcibly reminded me that the pay check for my job came from the United States Government, and my job was not to design better weapons for the Soviet Union.
was in class 3 business during the early to mid 80's. there used to be whole page ads in shorgun news with dealer sample guns from the world over. walther mpl&mpk,madsens, swedish k, m1a1 thompsons, mg-17, you name it and it was for sale. along with parts, cheap magazines, and ammo, which was relatively high priced at the time. all these could be bought by any class 3 dealer. life was good. then in 86 the feds stepped in and made life miserable so i got out. shot tens of thousands of rounds through them and still miss being able to go the range and rip off a bunch of rounds. best stress reliever i ever found. btw, back then my car gun was a mac-10 in 9mm with suppressor and 10 mags.
I own three Mp5's and three M16's. Best gun investments I ever made. I very rarely ever shoot any of them but every once and a while I rent a helicopter and go shoot hogs and coyotes down at the ranch. It's the most fun you can have with your pants on. I have five or so suppressors and use them on occasion.
Sir, I did a fair bit of full-auto shooting in the Marine Corps. It's good clean fun, but darned expensive if you're footing your own bills. Cheap as I am, there's just no way I could do it now. I'd fire one short burst, then spend the next 10 minutes hunting around in the weeds trying to find every last cartridge case and link. :-/
Hope this helps, and Semper Fi.
Ron H.
Hope this helps, and Semper Fi.
Ron H.
whitecoyote
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YogiBear
Absent Comrade
Aloha
Living in Hawaii, we miss out on all the fun stuff.
Can someone explain how it is possible and LEGAL to own a canon or howitzer?
Thanks
Living in Hawaii, we miss out on all the fun stuff.
Can someone explain how it is possible and LEGAL to own a canon or howitzer?
Thanks
Once upon a time owned a full-size Uzi and a Sten but sold them around 2000-2001.
Presently I have two select-fire weapons: a U-prefix S&W 76 and a Sterling Mk4 built on a DLO Sterling tube by John and Stan Andrewski.
I also have two SBRs that I assembled, a semi-auto Norinco 320 Uzi clone with a 10.2" MG barrel and a semi-auto AR15 with a 10.5" barrel.
Noah
Presently I have two select-fire weapons: a U-prefix S&W 76 and a Sterling Mk4 built on a DLO Sterling tube by John and Stan Andrewski.
I also have two SBRs that I assembled, a semi-auto Norinco 320 Uzi clone with a 10.2" MG barrel and a semi-auto AR15 with a 10.5" barrel.
Noah
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RightWinger
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Wow, a lot more people on here have machine guns than I was thinking, thats good to hear. I'd love to see some pics of these older beauties!
Just like owning any other Title II piece, be it a machine gun, suppressor, short barreled rifle, short barreled shotgun or an AOW, however, a cannon is considered a Destructive Device.
A Sten, and a MAC-10 in 45 for me. I am planning on acquiring a S&W M76 soon. No S&W collection is complete without one. Of course not many of us have complete Smith collections anyway, so there must be another excuse. Maybe I just like 'em.
I do not have any suppressors at this time. I live out in the country and noisy guns discourage people from moving in too close.
I do have some SBS's though.
Paperwork isn't that big a hassle and you don't have to deal with ATF. you just fill out the paperwork, send in two passport size photos of yourself along with a check and settle back and wait a long time. Sometimes even the wait isn't all that long.
I am an 01 FFL also. That is where you get into dealing with the ATF. By comparison owning NFA items isn't anything. FWIW if you ever do need to talk to someone at the NFA branch of ATF you will find them nicer and more helpful than most of the other ATF people. At least that has been my experience. I have called more than once to ask about the status of a form 1 or 4. Their site even lists the names of the people who work there. They are actually helpful. Imagine that from a gov't bureaucrat!!
I do not have any suppressors at this time. I live out in the country and noisy guns discourage people from moving in too close.
I do have some SBS's though.
Paperwork isn't that big a hassle and you don't have to deal with ATF. you just fill out the paperwork, send in two passport size photos of yourself along with a check and settle back and wait a long time. Sometimes even the wait isn't all that long.
I am an 01 FFL also. That is where you get into dealing with the ATF. By comparison owning NFA items isn't anything. FWIW if you ever do need to talk to someone at the NFA branch of ATF you will find them nicer and more helpful than most of the other ATF people. At least that has been my experience. I have called more than once to ask about the status of a form 1 or 4. Their site even lists the names of the people who work there. They are actually helpful. Imagine that from a gov't bureaucrat!!
TXSWFAN
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Suppressors are fun too. I've got them in .22, .223, .308, 9mm, .45, 6.8 and .50 BMG. You can get an AOW like this Serbu http://www.impactguns.com/store/SER-SS12.html and the tax stamp is only $5.
