Zumbo made the mistake of saying in public what he believed. He meant every word, a lot of our shooting brethen agree with him. My best friend and I went around in circles about "no one needing a AR-15", I pointed out his favorite semiautomatic shotgun was very close in operation to the AR, "Nah, the shotgun is for hunting, the AR is for KILLIN". I gave up trying to explain there was no difference between the two.